Maybe I don't understand BM but I'd think it has jumped the shark already, and if not, it will soon.
It’s all about the orgies. Isn’t it?
It's wealthy people cosplaying as hippies. Costs $1200 to get in, these people are all about peace and love, and then (the majority) of them are the biggest a**holes you'll ever meet immediately afterwards. They absolutely destroy everything over here every year. They dump their trash and waste on the side of the roads, and will ever drive through our neighborhoods looking for unguarded trash bins to overfill. There's always a lot of abandoned vehicles left all over the place, but this year was worse than ever before. I now have a pretty view of 3 abandoned and destroyed crappy old campers outside my window that will probably sit there for at least a year before they get dealt with by the city...
"Cooking isn't about struggling; It's about pleasure. It's like sǝx, with a wider variety of sauces."
At any given time the urge to sing "In The Jungle" is just a whim away... A whim away... A whim away...
Your favorite cookie now has a new field of science dedicated to it: Oreology. This novel field of science attempts to understand the flow and fracture of the iconic Oreo cookie to find the best eating experience, including whether it's actually possible to separate the two sides of the cookie sandwich with an equal amount of creme filling on each. In a study published in April 2022, in the journal American Institute of Physics, a group of scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology dug deep into the probability of achieving an equal creme ratio in an Oreo when twisting it open.
Oreo splitting is not for me. I have not had Oreos in years. But I do have a regular routine if I have them. I dunk them in milk until they reach varying degrees of consistency. Sometimes I let half get saturated and the other half remain crispy. Sometimes I dunk the whole thing and let it get so soggy it breaks off and a spoon is required. Every level of saturation is enjoyable to me. But I give no craps about splitting them.
The police received warnings that the Maine gunman had threatened to carry out a shooting spree, but never made contact with him, records showed.
Monday, October 30, 2023 7:34 PM ET
The warnings about the reservist, Robert Card, 40, were far more explicit than Maine officials have publicly acknowledged in the wake of Wednesday’s shooting.
@silvermouse, why, if the NYT article claims the police or other authorities did not follow up on the warnings, does the cartoon implicate the gunshop owner? Is the NYT claiming the shooter made his intent known to the gunshop owner (carryiing reds flags announcing he is nuts), but the gunshop owner did not care? Is the NYT claiming the gunshop owner should have turned down any sales to the shooter, even though the authorities never put his name into the system as being ineligible to purchase a gun? Do you think any gunshop owner wants to be associated with selling a firearm to a mass shooter, because, well, Murica dammit!
The failure here is the authorities failure to act (along with a crazy man doing something crazy), not the gunshop owner's action in selling a gun to someone who passed the holy grail background check.
I believe he told the gun shop owner that he had mental health issues. I will see if I can find that report.
Edit...you are right, the gun shop acted properly according to this report. The cartoonist should have been holding the police and military to blame for not restricting his ownership due to his past actions, not the gun shop. Thanks for pointing out the false direction, which I didn't fact check. @TRayB
@silvermouse said:
I believe he told the gun shop owner that he had mental health issues. I will see if I can find that report.
Edit...you are right, the gun shop acted properly according to this report. The cartoonist should have been holding the police and military to blame for not restricting his ownership due to his past actions, not the gun shop. Thanks for pointing out the false direction, which I didn't fact check.
A gunshop owner is, of course, free to NOT SELL a firearm to anyone they don't want to sell to, for any reason, especially if the person is giving off signs they may not be stable, or legally allowed to own a firearm, BUT, if the system does not throw up a block to the sale, then what? Should the onus be placed on the gunshop owner to decide if the person is truly a danger? Can you or I decide on the spot that a person whom we have never met is a danger to himself or others, when the authorities, who were alerted, have not flagged him in the system.
(note: I started this reply before your edit. Apparently the NYT can just make this stuff up.)
Further search of the press ... Maine rejected a Red Flag Law a few years ago but enacted a yellow flag law that required a doctor's ok before the police could act....so, again the cartoonist made false impressions of the situation.
I believe the gun shop owner refused to sell a suppressor that was mail ordered for delivery to the shop when Card filled out his ATF 4473, stating that he had been committed to a mental institution. At least that's what I heard on the radio earlier.
Don't let the wife know what you spend on guns, ammo or cigars.
@d_blades said:
I believe the gun shop owner refused to sell a suppressor that was mail ordered for delivery to the shop when Card filled out his ATF 4473, stating that he had been committed to a mental institution. At least that's what I heard on the radio earlier.
It's not so simple as filling out a form 4473 and passing in instant BGC. It takes 6-8 months to purchase a suppressor, including filling out an ATF Form 4 and being fingerprinted. The guy would have been denied well before ever having a suppressor delivered to a shop.
In my opinion the situation makes a strong case for strong red flag laws. Emotionally disturbed people need protection from themselves, the police need to not have their hands tied when protecting them and their neighbors. There were plenty of indications that this individual was endangered. The family contacted police about his mental state and allegedly said they would remove the guns from his possession. This is an easy solution to a difficult social problem that doesn't affect other gun owners.
Therein lies the problem, Edward. 99% of the time the fam8ly never speaks up, and when they do usually nothing is ever done about it. Nobody is proactive on mental health.
On the other hand, red flag orders are often taken out on people for vindictive purposes. Angry relatives, neighbors, etc. No state's red flag law seems to include a trained physician ever determines the person in question is a threat or not. It's almost always left up to a judge with zero mental health background making the decision. Like having a plumber look at you car when it's not running right. On top of this, almost all red flag orders are signed ex-parte. The judge never even sees the accused before determining his rights should be violated. No due process whatsoever. Shouldn't someone be convicted of a crime or be forcibly institutionalized before their fundamental rights are taken away? It's always people wanting to be seen "Doing Something " pushing laws that will not deal with the problem constitutionally.
If a person is actually unstable, not just a little depressed, get them examined and see if something needs to be done. If something does, commit them and give them the treatment they need. If it turns out they are not a problem, give them their due process and let them go about their lives unmolested.
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Nobody gets committed to the loony bin anymore, they just pump ‘em full of drugs with side effects that read like they’re straight from the definition of insanity.
How many mass shooters are on these mind altering drugs? And why is that not more than a tiny part of the conversation regarding this problem? Money. The drug companies and the ad dollars from drug companies that support the media.
Treat the symptom, ignore the problem. Sounds about right.
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"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
No. I'm saying that our methods of dealing with the problem amount to wishful thinking and inadequate intervention of the underlying problems with people's psyche. The common moral ground that we once stood on as a people is eroding from underneath us, and we're hoping that taking a pill will solve it. I don't think this will bear fruit.
The post was supposed to indicate a degree of sarcasm.
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I'm sure they are bio-diesel powered.
Don't let the wife know what you spend on guns, ammo or cigars.
It's wealthy people cosplaying as hippies. Costs $1200 to get in, these people are all about peace and love, and then (the majority) of them are the biggest a**holes you'll ever meet immediately afterwards. They absolutely destroy everything over here every year. They dump their trash and waste on the side of the roads, and will ever drive through our neighborhoods looking for unguarded trash bins to overfill. There's always a lot of abandoned vehicles left all over the place, but this year was worse than ever before. I now have a pretty view of 3 abandoned and destroyed crappy old campers outside my window that will probably sit there for at least a year before they get dealt with by the city...
At any given time the urge to sing "In The Jungle" is just a whim away... A whim away... A whim away...
Torch them, then the city will have to deal with them.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
This is what happens when chicken manure is used to fertilize cabbages.
Attention everyone! Call Ripley's Believe It Or Not. My cat puked today, and astonishingly, it wasn't on the carpet.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
You probably just haven't discovered where it actually started or finally ended
Your favorite cookie now has a new field of science dedicated to it: Oreology. This novel field of science attempts to understand the flow and fracture of the iconic Oreo cookie to find the best eating experience, including whether it's actually possible to separate the two sides of the cookie sandwich with an equal amount of creme filling on each. In a study published in April 2022, in the journal American Institute of Physics, a group of scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology dug deep into the probability of achieving an equal creme ratio in an Oreo when twisting it open.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxd9az/scientists-publish-breakthrough-study-in-oreo-splitting-research
Oreo splitting is not for me. I have not had Oreos in years. But I do have a regular routine if I have them. I dunk them in milk until they reach varying degrees of consistency. Sometimes I let half get saturated and the other half remain crispy. Sometimes I dunk the whole thing and let it get so soggy it breaks off and a spoon is required. Every level of saturation is enjoyable to me. But I give no craps about splitting them.
My Oreo ritual when I actually have them…put them in a bowl and pour milk on them. Then eat them like cereal lol
Not my favorite but we seem to get them on the regular. I just eat them dry and whole.
I went to MIT to become an Oreologist, and now I have trouble repaying my student loan.
Guinness World Records crowns new hottest pepper!!
Pepper X registers at 2.69 million units.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67136085.amp
@peter4jc
pssshhh...
I hear the juice eats steel.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
My father taught me how to eat hot peppers. After eating the hot pepper, eat some ice cream.
The next morning on the pot, you yell, “Come On Ice Cream!”
sigh,
The New York Times
The police received warnings that the Maine gunman had threatened to carry out a shooting spree, but never made contact with him, records showed.
Monday, October 30, 2023 7:34 PM ET
The warnings about the reservist, Robert Card, 40, were far more explicit than Maine officials have publicly acknowledged in the wake of Wednesday’s shooting.
@silvermouse, why, if the NYT article claims the police or other authorities did not follow up on the warnings, does the cartoon implicate the gunshop owner? Is the NYT claiming the shooter made his intent known to the gunshop owner (carryiing reds flags announcing he is nuts), but the gunshop owner did not care? Is the NYT claiming the gunshop owner should have turned down any sales to the shooter, even though the authorities never put his name into the system as being ineligible to purchase a gun? Do you think any gunshop owner wants to be associated with selling a firearm to a mass shooter, because, well, Murica dammit!
The failure here is the authorities failure to act (along with a crazy man doing something crazy), not the gunshop owner's action in selling a gun to someone who passed the holy grail background check.
I believe he told the gun shop owner that he had mental health issues. I will see if I can find that report.
Edit...you are right, the gun shop acted properly according to this report. The cartoonist should have been holding the police and military to blame for not restricting his ownership due to his past actions, not the gun shop. Thanks for pointing out the false direction, which I didn't fact check. @TRayB
https://nypost.com/2023/10/29/news/robert-card-was-denied-at-maine-gun-shop-due-to-mental-health-months-before-massacre/
A gunshop owner is, of course, free to NOT SELL a firearm to anyone they don't want to sell to, for any reason, especially if the person is giving off signs they may not be stable, or legally allowed to own a firearm, BUT, if the system does not throw up a block to the sale, then what? Should the onus be placed on the gunshop owner to decide if the person is truly a danger? Can you or I decide on the spot that a person whom we have never met is a danger to himself or others, when the authorities, who were alerted, have not flagged him in the system.
(note: I started this reply before your edit. Apparently the NYT can just make this stuff up.)
Further search of the press ... Maine rejected a Red Flag Law a few years ago but enacted a yellow flag law that required a doctor's ok before the police could act....so, again the cartoonist made false impressions of the situation.
https://www.pressherald.com/2023/10/30/red-flag-law-which-maine-rejected-seen-as-best-tool-to-remove-guns-during-a-mental-health-crisis/
I believe the gun shop owner refused to sell a suppressor that was mail ordered for delivery to the shop when Card filled out his ATF 4473, stating that he had been committed to a mental institution. At least that's what I heard on the radio earlier.
Don't let the wife know what you spend on guns, ammo or cigars.
It's not so simple as filling out a form 4473 and passing in instant BGC. It takes 6-8 months to purchase a suppressor, including filling out an ATF Form 4 and being fingerprinted. The guy would have been denied well before ever having a suppressor delivered to a shop.
In my opinion the situation makes a strong case for strong red flag laws. Emotionally disturbed people need protection from themselves, the police need to not have their hands tied when protecting them and their neighbors. There were plenty of indications that this individual was endangered. The family contacted police about his mental state and allegedly said they would remove the guns from his possession. This is an easy solution to a difficult social problem that doesn't affect other gun owners.
Therein lies the problem, Edward. 99% of the time the fam8ly never speaks up, and when they do usually nothing is ever done about it. Nobody is proactive on mental health.
On the other hand, red flag orders are often taken out on people for vindictive purposes. Angry relatives, neighbors, etc. No state's red flag law seems to include a trained physician ever determines the person in question is a threat or not. It's almost always left up to a judge with zero mental health background making the decision. Like having a plumber look at you car when it's not running right. On top of this, almost all red flag orders are signed ex-parte. The judge never even sees the accused before determining his rights should be violated. No due process whatsoever. Shouldn't someone be convicted of a crime or be forcibly institutionalized before their fundamental rights are taken away? It's always people wanting to be seen "Doing Something " pushing laws that will not deal with the problem constitutionally.
If a person is actually unstable, not just a little depressed, get them examined and see if something needs to be done. If something does, commit them and give them the treatment they need. If it turns out they are not a problem, give them their due process and let them go about their lives unmolested.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
Nobody gets committed to the loony bin anymore, they just pump ‘em full of drugs with side effects that read like they’re straight from the definition of insanity.
How many mass shooters are on these mind altering drugs? And why is that not more than a tiny part of the conversation regarding this problem? Money. The drug companies and the ad dollars from drug companies that support the media.
Agree. Chemical restraints are so much cheaper than inpatient long term care.
Treat the symptom, ignore the problem. Sounds about right.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Are you saying that the firearm, an inanimate object, is the problem?
@silvermouse , my flag and disagree.
No. I'm saying that our methods of dealing with the problem amount to wishful thinking and inadequate intervention of the underlying problems with people's psyche. The common moral ground that we once stood on as a people is eroding from underneath us, and we're hoping that taking a pill will solve it. I don't think this will bear fruit.
The post was supposed to indicate a degree of sarcasm.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Treating the symptom is cheap, treating the cause is expensive and time consuming. Nobody gets a golden soundbite out of doing the hard work.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.