Probably a dumb question.

jd50ae
jd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I am constantly seeing adds for video doorbells.
Always requires a cell phone.
Does anyone know if they will work with a desktop?
Yea, I know.

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  • jd50ae
    jd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Answer ✓
    If you are not a little paranoid you have not been reading the news. Government and Social Media company's are in your business more and more everyday. Add to the mix thieves and thugs and it ain't pretty.

    I guess I will go with a monitor and multiple cameras.
  • jd50ae
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    dirtdude said:
    C'mon brother, you live in West Gnawed Pencil, keep a gun handy,  you will be fine.

    "A" gun?

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  • 0patience
    0patience Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The ring doorbell only requires Wi-Fi. 
    You can access if from a smart phone, but it isn't required.
    But recording may require it be connected to the cloud or a
    PC. I haven't looked that far into it.
    We have an 8 camera system that has a DVR and I can access it from my smart phone anywhere.
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    Wylaff said:
    Atmospheric pressure and crap.
  • BKDog
    BKDog Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you run a Linux operating system on a PC you can hack into just about anything. Of course you will need the time and skill to do so, and I've found it isn't worth my time these days to mess around with wifi gadgets because they are proprietary garbage and just give me stomach cramps thinking about it. What I'm talking about is security. Here's an idea of what I mean: https://thehackernews.com/2016/01/doorbell-hacking-wifi-pasword.html
    If it connects to your home wifi, a lot of risk is involved. But, to each his own. If you live in the middle of farm country, it's probably not a huge deal, but in the larger urban areas, I certainly wouldn't use anything wifi enabled for home security that doesn't meet the highest standards.


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  • Bob_Luken
    Bob_Luken Posts: 11,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The next generation of technology is always sprinting past me while I am content with the technology I am currently using. And usually, after studying any new updates to my current setups, my urge is to become Amish, or at least Mennonite. But heck, Amish folks are even using cell phones now.
  • Martel
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    Bob_Luken said:
    The next generation of technology is always sprinting past me while I am content with the technology I am currently using. And usually, after studying any new updates to my current setups, my urge is to become Amish, or at least Mennonite. But heck, Amish folks are even using cell phones now.
    I have Amish near-neighbors.  Joke about it, but I'd never want that life.  It's really not appealing at all.  Nice people, some of them.  But not all.  And my friends over in rural Lancaster pretty much hate them except for pretty pictures and the tourism business they bring in.  I have an old order Mennonite friend.  Not much better in terms of their whole community. 

    I also know some great Mennonites, but they are much more modern.
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  • Trish
    Trish Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Martel said:
    Bob_Luken said:
    The next generation of technology is always sprinting past me while I am content with the technology I am currently using. And usually, after studying any new updates to my current setups, my urge is to become Amish, or at least Mennonite. But heck, Amish folks are even using cell phones now.
    I have Amish near-neighbors.  Joke about it, but I'd never want that life.  It's really not appealing at all.  Nice people, some of them.  But not all.  And my friends over in rural Lancaster pretty much hate them except for pretty pictures and the tourism business they bring in.  I have an old order Mennonite friend.  Not much better in terms of their whole community. 

    I also know some great Mennonites, but they are much more modern.
    Yeah but aren't the baked goods worth it...?
  • Diver43
    Diver43 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can also access the ring from a tablet. We got one for x-mas and now know when packages get delivered. Know if the lawn guy really sprays and oh yea who it is when the doorbell rings. We have both of our phones and a tablet connected to it. But the app doesn't seem to be compatible with my chromebook
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  • webmost
    webmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trish said:
    Martel said:
    Bob_Luken said:
    The next generation of technology is always sprinting past me while I am content with the technology I am currently using. And usually, after studying any new updates to my current setups, my urge is to become Amish, or at least Mennonite. But heck, Amish folks are even using cell phones now.
    I have Amish near-neighbors.  Joke about it, but I'd never want that life.  It's really not appealing at all.  Nice people, some of them.  But not all.  And my friends over in rural Lancaster pretty much hate them except for pretty pictures and the tourism business they bring in.  I have an old order Mennonite friend.  Not much better in terms of their whole community. 

    I also know some great Mennonites, but they are much more modern.
    Yeah but aren't the baked goods worth it...?


    They also grow a lot of yer gar baccy
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  • peter4jc
    peter4jc Posts: 18,105 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Usaf06 is that because they're more common than a security system w/ cameras, or what?
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  • Martel
    Martel Posts: 3,306 ✭✭✭✭
    Trish said:
    Martel said:
    Bob_Luken said:
    The next generation of technology is always sprinting past me while I am content with the technology I am currently using. And usually, after studying any new updates to my current setups, my urge is to become Amish, or at least Mennonite. But heck, Amish folks are even using cell phones now.
    I have Amish near-neighbors.  Joke about it, but I'd never want that life.  It's really not appealing at all.  Nice people, some of them.  But not all.  And my friends over in rural Lancaster pretty much hate them except for pretty pictures and the tourism business they bring in.  I have an old order Mennonite friend.  Not much better in terms of their whole community. 

    I also know some great Mennonites, but they are much more modern.
    Yeah but aren't the baked goods worth it...?
    Overrated.  Some homemade stuff is great, but the shops aren't all that.  Dense donuts.  Lots of peanut butter in everything.  Sweet but not much other flavor in stuff.  Dry.

    The only seasonings they know are salt, pepper, and vinegar, too, so the other food's not THAT good, either.
    Intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.

    I like Oliva and Quesada (including Regius) a lot.  I will smoke anything, though.
  • BKDog
    BKDog Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Usaf06 said:
    Ring and Nest cameras are the biggest tool law enforcement uses now to help identify burglars and thieves. It is a great tool and i recommend it to everyone. We have caught several in the first 3 months of this year off Ring cameras and have been instrumental in a recent murder investigation. 
    Personally, I'd rather recommend physical security such as lawful concealed carry, guard dogs, wired cameras indoors, and REAL high security deadbolts (not the crap you can buy from Home Depot, I mean Abus, Multi-Lock, and the like), then wireless cameras outdoors. Law enforcement is only good after the fact and then only if there's evidence. But, hey that's just me.

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  • Usaf06
    Usaf06 Posts: 11,889 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BKDog said:
    Usaf06 said:
    Ring and Nest cameras are the biggest tool law enforcement uses now to help identify burglars and thieves. It is a great tool and i recommend it to everyone. We have caught several in the first 3 months of this year off Ring cameras and have been instrumental in a recent murder investigation. 
    Personally, I'd rather recommend physical security such as lawful concealed carry, guard dogs, wired cameras indoors, and REAL high security deadbolts (not the crap you can buy from Home Depot, I mean Abus, Multi-Lock, and the like), then wireless cameras outdoors. Law enforcement is only good after the fact and then only if there's evidence. But, hey that's just me.

    thats all well and good but your not home 24/7. A determined burglar will get in if they want. Most of ours go to the front door and knock. If no answer they go in by kicking the front door open or prying the rear slider. 
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  • Usaf06
    Usaf06 Posts: 11,889 ✭✭✭✭✭
    peter4jc said:
    @Usaf06 is that because they're more common than a security system w/ cameras, or what?
    we have over 16,000 ring cameras in our county. I wish we had 100,000. Really a great tool and deterrent. 
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    -- Winston Churchill

    "LET'S GO FRANCIS"     Peter

  • Usaf06
    Usaf06 Posts: 11,889 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ring has partnered with many law enforcement agencies across the country. There is a ring app called neighbors. You don't need to have a ring camera to be part of neighbors but gives you access to a community watch type environment where people can post videos of suspicious people in your neighborhoods. I recommend everyone download it and sign up. 

    My agency recently became a partner and we have access to a portal that we can request videos directly to people who may have videos that would help in an investigation. We don't get to see those videos unless you send them to us. You also remain anonymous unless you contact the detective directly. 

    https://youtu.be/HXobQdSmpMY
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  • 0patience
    0patience Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2019
    I don't have the Ring, but my survellance cameras have caught 2 people breaking into my car in our driveway and both times, they were able to catch the person and the video provided proof. 
    Camera, whether the doorbell cameras or a survellance system is never a bad idea.

    The Ring had a flaw, but new software has taken care of that problem.

    There are now routers available that you can set up,to notify you if there is a new user trying to connect to your Wi-Fi. It also logs connections to the Wi-Fi.
    My son has one that does all that. He can also stop a user from using his wifi from his phone.
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    Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.

    Wylaff said:
    Atmospheric pressure and crap.
  • BKDog
    BKDog Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doors that unlock wirelessly from a phone app? And with all the vulnerabilities found thus far, corrected or not, I'm sorry but it's just plain silly to trust Amazon, the Police, Inc. or anybody who promotes such reckless technology. https://www.foxnews.com/tech/amazons-front-door-security-device-let-people-spy-on-you-heres-how
    Some of the police may like "Ring" because it helps them fight crime, but I guarantee you it's more about data collection. Every phone is tied into the grid, with apps that track your spending, conversations and contacts, whereabouts, you name it. This information can be marketed and sold, or collected into NSA fusion centers across the country. Maybe I'm old fashioned, I don't trust "law enforcement" one millimeter, and will only ever support duly elected Sheriffs because they aren't trying to rake in money for their corporate masters. Sure, there are good police out there, I've got a few in my home town, but by large they are quickly disappearing only to be replaced with a militarized, corporate gestapo.
    I may not be in law enforcement, but I do have a military background and I do have tech experience and do work in the computer forensics field. I know how easy it is to hack wifi tech, it's so simple kids all over the world are doing it every day.
    The future may seem impossible for some to gain even the tiniest glimpse of, but it's really not too difficult to see where this technological era, with its corporate leash really is headed.

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  • peter4jc
    peter4jc Posts: 18,105 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You are one paranoid dude BKdog.
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  • dirtdude
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    militarized, corporate gestapo. 

    Sounds like Nick @Usaf06
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  • Usaf06
    Usaf06 Posts: 11,889 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BKDog said:
    Doors that unlock wirelessly from a phone app? And with all the vulnerabilities found thus far, corrected or not, I'm sorry but it's just plain silly to trust Amazon, the Police, Inc. or anybody who promotes such reckless technology. https://www.foxnews.com/tech/amazons-front-door-security-device-let-people-spy-on-you-heres-how
    Some of the police may like "Ring" because it helps them fight crime, but I guarantee you it's more about data collection. Every phone is tied into the grid, with apps that track your spending, conversations and contacts, whereabouts, you name it. This information can be marketed and sold, or collected into NSA fusion centers across the country. Maybe I'm old fashioned, I don't trust "law enforcement" one millimeter, and will only ever support duly elected Sheriffs because they aren't trying to rake in money for their corporate masters. Sure, there are good police out there, I've got a few in my home town, but by large they are quickly disappearing only to be replaced with a militarized, corporate gestapo.
    I may not be in law enforcement, but I do have a military background and I do have tech experience and do work in the computer forensics field. I know how easy it is to hack wifi tech, it's so simple kids all over the world are doing it every day.
    The future may seem impossible for some to gain even the tiniest glimpse of, but it's really not too difficult to see where this technological era, with its corporate leash really is headed.

    This made me lmfao. I can assure you no police officer is collecting your data. But whatever dude, you do you
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    -- Winston Churchill

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  • miller65rod
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    Columbo collects cigars not data
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  • BKDog
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    Usaf06 said:
    BKDog said:
    Doors that unlock wirelessly from a phone app? And with all the vulnerabilities found thus far, corrected or not, I'm sorry but it's just plain silly to trust Amazon, the Police, Inc. or anybody who promotes such reckless technology. https://www.foxnews.com/tech/amazons-front-door-security-device-let-people-spy-on-you-heres-how

    This made me lmfao. I can assure you no police officer is collecting your data. But whatever dude, you do you
    Yeah, I do me. At least you're not offended by my "paranoia" :D



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  • Amos_Umwhat
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    Nick doesn't offend all that easily.  That's one of the things I like about him most.
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  • 0patience
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    There is nothing wrong with being paranoid.
    Paranoid people are the reason govt hasn't totally gone to a socialist republic.
    The problem is, often those paranoid aren't willing to research products that protect, while still providing the services.

    Offline cameras are one such product.
    Protection without worrying about breaching security.

    In Fumo Pax
    Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.

    Wylaff said:
    Atmospheric pressure and crap.

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