One-Sentence Summary: Our survey shows that one in twelve researchers committed research misconduct and one in two engaged in sloppy science in the last three years.
The second study which silvermouse linked is actually an analysis of several dozen similar surveys. Here's their conclusion:
A pooled weighted average of 1.97% of scientists admitted to have fabricated, falsified or modified data or results at least once –a serious form of misconduct by any standard– and up to 33.7% admitted other questionable research practices. In surveys asking about the behaviour of colleagues, admission rates were 14.12% for falsification, and up to 72% for other questionable research practices.
I like that the second paper attempts to answer the obvious question: "Sure, but how many would actually admit how bad they are cooking the books?"
Both these conclusions are available at the beginning of each paper, so you don't have to wade thru tons of long words to get there.
And I like this bit:
A popular view propagated by the media and by many scientists sees fraudsters as just a ‘‘few bad apples’’. This pristine image of science is based on the theory that the scientific community is guided by norms including disinterestedness and organized scepticism, which are incompatible with misconduct. Increasing evidence, however, suggests that known frauds are just the ‘‘tip of the iceberg’’, and that many cases are never discovered.
“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)
I thought researchers researched a subject, wrote a paper with their findings, published the paper. Then other researchers examined their paper and looked for flaws in their research. Whatever theories they come up with are subject to peer review.
I believe if a researcher falsified data it would either be inconsequential or discovered in the peer review process.
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@IndustMech said:
I thought researchers researched a subject, wrote a paper with their findings, published the paper. Then other researchers examined their paper and looked for flaws in their research. Whatever theories they come up with are subject to peer review.
I believe if a researcher falsified data it would either be inconsequential or discovered in the peer review process.
“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)
@IndustMech said:
I thought researchers researched a subject, wrote a paper with their findings, published the paper. Then other researchers examined their paper and looked for flaws in their research. Whatever theories they come up with are subject to peer review.
I believe if a researcher falsified data it would either be inconsequential or discovered in the peer review process.
Here's a great (and funny) video about how some fake (and funny) papers were written, reviewed, and sometimes published. You'll love it!
They work good in south Korea, where every single citizen wears them all the time outside of the home. 51 million people on a peninsula the size of Indiana.
Can’t wait to see what happens when people wear these to not die of chlorine gas, or hell even drywall dust. I know you like them Frank and that’s good.
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@Patrickbrick said:
Can’t wait to see what happens when people wear these to not die of chlorine gas, or hell even drywall dust. I know you like them Frank and that’s good.
Im just saying bro. Masks prevent the spread of covid when everyone wears them. South Korea is my "proof" of it.
Unless you're disputing the 51 million population, the square footage similar to Indiana, or the numbers of cases and deaths, or unless you're going to offer an alternate hypothesis, I'm gonna say paper surgical masks. I first went to Seoul 20 years ago and they were all wearing them then for head colds and flu. All of them were. In fact, the only people in Seoul who weren't wearing masks were American GIs.
I do have an alternative hypotheses, I’ll explain on vherf. The masks help but not for the reason you think. COVID is spread slightly differently and for that I will also explain on vherf.
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Can't wait...ill be on tonight. I thought that the human mouth and sinus droplets which carry covid are bigger than the porous fiberous openings in the masks.
@Patrickbrick said:
That’s my disagree, I’m absolutely getting these!
No doubt. Toasting the outside to a uniform golden-brown, while simultaneously melting the inside to a gooey brown mass of delight... what can be bad about that?
What is it in our make up that seems to demand either/or over both/and?
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Reminds me of the baking Splenda where they pre-blend Splenda and sugar 50/50 so you can use it for baking. They charge you a lot of money to add the sugar, I can just add my own.
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For those who find this stuff TLTR.....
From the Dutch survey:
The second study which silvermouse linked is actually an analysis of several dozen similar surveys. Here's their conclusion:
I like that the second paper attempts to answer the obvious question: "Sure, but how many would actually admit how bad they are cooking the books?"
Both these conclusions are available at the beginning of each paper, so you don't have to wade thru tons of long words to get there.
And I like this bit:
I thought researchers researched a subject, wrote a paper with their findings, published the paper. Then other researchers examined their paper and looked for flaws in their research. Whatever theories they come up with are subject to peer review.
I believe if a researcher falsified data it would either be inconsequential or discovered in the peer review process.
I know, You're a big dog and I'm on the list.
Let's eat, GrandMa. / Let's eat GrandMa. -- Punctuation saves lives
It'll be fine once the swelling goes down.
https://physics.nyu.edu/faculty/sokal/transgress_v2/transgress_v2_singlefile.html
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/new-sokal-hoax/572212/
et al
Here's a great (and funny) video about how some fake (and funny) papers were written, reviewed, and sometimes published. You'll love it!
They work good in south Korea, where every single citizen wears them all the time outside of the home. 51 million people on a peninsula the size of Indiana.
Can’t wait to see what happens when people wear these to not die of chlorine gas, or hell even drywall dust. I know you like them Frank and that’s good.
MOW badge received.
A whole lot of the "science" we've heard the last few years has not been peer reviewed.
Don't let the wife know what you spend on guns, ammo or cigars.
Im just saying bro. Masks prevent the spread of covid when everyone wears them. South Korea is my "proof" of it.
Unless you're disputing the 51 million population, the square footage similar to Indiana, or the numbers of cases and deaths, or unless you're going to offer an alternate hypothesis, I'm gonna say paper surgical masks. I first went to Seoul 20 years ago and they were all wearing them then for head colds and flu. All of them were. In fact, the only people in Seoul who weren't wearing masks were American GIs.
I do have an alternative hypotheses, I’ll explain on vherf. The masks help but not for the reason you think. COVID is spread slightly differently and for that I will also explain on vherf.
MOW badge received.
Can't wait...ill be on tonight. I thought that the human mouth and sinus droplets which carry covid are bigger than the porous fiberous openings in the masks.
What time !?!!!?
In 20 minutes or so
We're waiting on the vHerf. Maybe I can figure out how to put the interested parties in their own breakout room in Zoom.
So, who won? I had to leave to help the Wife with some things during the heated debate.
LOL. You know nobody wins that one.
I lost. First I had to turn down the volume. Then while it was still going strong I slipped out the side door.
Humanity is circling the drain
That’s my disagree, I’m absolutely getting these!
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No doubt. Toasting the outside to a uniform golden-brown, while simultaneously melting the inside to a gooey brown mass of delight... what can be bad about that?
Phillip Morris wants to ban cigarettes in the UK over the next decade
Pretty soon pot will be legal everywhere and cigarettes will be illegal.
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.
What is it in our make up that seems to demand either/or over both/and?
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Lol sorry. Patrick insisted.
My god. When? Where? How much?!!
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
This was not the reaction I was expecting.
https://www.amazon.com/Stuffed-Puffs-Marshmallows-Chocolate-Chocolate/dp/B093LQKDWB/ref=sr_1_1_sspa
Reminds me of the baking Splenda where they pre-blend Splenda and sugar 50/50 so you can use it for baking. They charge you a lot of money to add the sugar, I can just add my own.
Again, my disagree.
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The skeptic in me asks,.... Are they are stuffed with "milk chocolate" or some marshmallow'ed crap that is colored like chocolate?
Somebody bite the bullet. Let us know.
Wasn’t sure where to put this, what a shame.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/founding-slipknot-member-and-acclaimed-drummer-joey-jordison-dead-at-age-46-221011320.html
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