Tasteless cigars
tom82
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I have been having problems with my cigars, they have become
flavourless, they taste like cotton wool, or if you were smoking them
through water, its like the flavours have been sucked out of them (pun
not intended), it's like you're not really smoking anything. No flavour/ taste, etc. taste like steam or water, just taste blehhh.
I have recently changed over to using Boveda 72% rh humidity packets in the last several months or so, my humidor is a large 300-500 count Havana Footlocker I also have a Ravello humidor with the same problem regarding lack of flavour, using about 5-6 boveda packets in the humidor.
The humidors are about 75-80% full.
Humidity is at 70% mark and temp is around 60f as well, humidity and temp have not been fluctuating up or down.
Ambient humidity (outside the humis is around 50%.
I was previously using the black rectangle humidifiers that came with the humidors and charged them with pg solution and distilled water 50/50. The flavourless has begun around February this year, our summer here was above average with days above 90-93f inside the humidors which as you know is not acceptable, and the humidor placed in the coolest place in which is the wardrobe, no air con here.
I am mu'ding (binning) a large number of sticks
It has been suggested to me to re season the humidor, which is the step I am looking at taking next. Moving the sticks over to temporary accommodation in an esky while re seasoning the humidor which will probably take around a week
I am planning on using the 84% boveda seasoning packets, how many would i require for seasoning this large humi?
I think the sticks were "shocked" by the heat over summer, if this is the case, would it be possible to rehabilitate these affected sticks?
Could it be possible that te boveda packets are drawing out the flavour and replacing it with the water vapour that they emit?
If the humidor was leaking humidity the hygrometer would be fluctuating. I am using Xikar digital hygrometers (calibrated by using the boveda hygrometer packet or done with the salt test).
I have also been dry boxing and having mixed results with this.
Any ideas, comments, suggestions will be much appreciated.
I have recently changed over to using Boveda 72% rh humidity packets in the last several months or so, my humidor is a large 300-500 count Havana Footlocker I also have a Ravello humidor with the same problem regarding lack of flavour, using about 5-6 boveda packets in the humidor.
The humidors are about 75-80% full.
Humidity is at 70% mark and temp is around 60f as well, humidity and temp have not been fluctuating up or down.
Ambient humidity (outside the humis is around 50%.
I was previously using the black rectangle humidifiers that came with the humidors and charged them with pg solution and distilled water 50/50. The flavourless has begun around February this year, our summer here was above average with days above 90-93f inside the humidors which as you know is not acceptable, and the humidor placed in the coolest place in which is the wardrobe, no air con here.
I am mu'ding (binning) a large number of sticks
It has been suggested to me to re season the humidor, which is the step I am looking at taking next. Moving the sticks over to temporary accommodation in an esky while re seasoning the humidor which will probably take around a week
I am planning on using the 84% boveda seasoning packets, how many would i require for seasoning this large humi?
I think the sticks were "shocked" by the heat over summer, if this is the case, would it be possible to rehabilitate these affected sticks?
Could it be possible that te boveda packets are drawing out the flavour and replacing it with the water vapour that they emit?
If the humidor was leaking humidity the hygrometer would be fluctuating. I am using Xikar digital hygrometers (calibrated by using the boveda hygrometer packet or done with the salt test).
I have also been dry boxing and having mixed results with this.
Any ideas, comments, suggestions will be much appreciated.
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boveda doesnt suck out flavor only moisture. the flavor is in the oils. no need to worry about that.
the heat probably was not the issue either.
i think you are barking up the wrong tree. you keep looking for things that could have happened to your cigars or your humidor.
i think its most likely you.
how do other things taste?
has food and drink become muted as well?
can you still smell things the way you used to?
did you burn out your palate?
"I am mu'ding (binning) a large number of sticks"
What exactly does mu'ding or binning mean? Are you storing a large number of sticks, or throwing away a large number of sticks, or smoking a large number of sticks? Don't know if clearing this up with me will help anybody understand this any better but I'd like to know.
And I think Kuzi's onto something. Your taste buds may be dull. Are you smoking a LOT of cigars since Feb? Did you start any new medications or herbal supplements at that time? It may have nothing to do with the cigars themselves.
Have not changed medications
See http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MU'd re mu'ding.
Seriously don't know what binning means? To place (something) in a bin, a bin is a receptacle for storing a specified substance (usually waste).
What cigars are they, well the collection I have at the moment has an amount of Gurkha cigars (Black Dragon, Special Ops, Vulcan, Ninja), Oliva Serie V, Graycliff, Tarano Noventa, Don Pepin Cuban Classic Black label, Rockey Patel, Diesel, Perdomo, MUWAT, Undercrown, Ramon Bueso, Cain Daytona, Cain maduro, Nub Habano also have some Cubans Montecristo 520 EL and a box of RASS.
(I'm in Australia)
Have had this stock since last year. I like a range of cigarss from Nicaraguan, DR, Honduran, Brazil, Cuba etc.
Simply put, you go through the motions of smoking cigar, but it's like you're not really smoking anything. No flavour/ taste, etc.
Nope not using beads or kitty litter, using Boveda 72% packs at the moment.
the flavor is in the oils. the beads dont soak up oils, just moisture that is in the air. oils dont get into the air the way water does.
even if oils were leaving your cigars through the air they would leave your cigars no matter what device you use.
that is all.
On the other hand, I'd guess that beads could be improperly calibrated or something so that they absorb more moisture than they ought to, drying out your cigars and their oils and killing their flavor.
Was this problem ever solved? I'm experiencing a similar issue
That the original poster had palate burnout or the Boveda/Kitty Litter debate?
The original poster never told us what cigars he was smoking, just what he "liked" to smoke. If you're smoking Quorum, good luck with flavor. Could have been a shiitt ton of reasons he was having issues. The Boveda/Kitty Litter debate tho..... BOVEDA!
Welcome, @Isaac305 For me, sometimes life tastes flat, too. Might not be the cigars.
Don’t smoke AJ cigars
My favorite cigar list here
Haha, AJs don't lack flavor. Welcome @Isaac305, tell us about your cigars, setup, weather, and if you've been sick lately, they're all factors. I find 72% Bovedas to moist for my area, I prefer 62 - 65% so there ready to smoke, others keep a dry box of cigars on deck.
He hasn’t been on here since 2014. All threads will show as new to you because you are new. You may want to look at dates to find conversations that are still relevant with people that are still active.
Word of the day is "binning"
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It'll be fine once the swelling goes down.
You take that back mister!
Thanks for the welcome. I keep my cigars in a newair smokers club 250 count humidor at 68/70. The humidor is fully filled, cooling only due to the hot humid Florida weather. All my cigars were smoking just fine last week. This Sunday I smoked a my father la promesa which was completely flavorless, though burning evenly. The next day I lit a liga velvet rat and to my dismay the same thing! My mind went to maybe I aged them too long (1 year) so I lit up a cuban patagas that was sitting in my humidor for 1 month...nothing. Immediately moved all my cigars to Tupperware. I thought it could be something with me but I had my wife smell my cigars and she said all the cigar smell was gone.
As for humidification I had 3 320 gram 65% boveda packs in there (abiet getting old at 9months)
I have 20 year old cigars that still smell like a cigar. Any new supplements that you recently started taking?
The Rat should've punched through, how's your food tasting? I know @Usaf06 keeps a dry box and he's in Florida, but it doesn't explain a change.
The only device I have for humidification is 320 gram boveda. 4/5 of the cigars I've tried this week I've smoked numerous times and there was no powerloss that I know of. Also in the past 20min I asked my friend to drop me off a cigar and I smell a very potent delicious cigar smell coming off the wrapper.
Hmm, also make sure you're well hydrated, makes a big difference.