@Amos_Umwhat said:
Is it just me, or are some of you picturing @CalvinAndHobo with a fedora, pin-striped suit with a carnation on the lapel, pointy toed shoes and a briefcase handcuffed to his wrist?
Nothing new. The Chinese have been positioning themselves so they can defeat the united states for decades. We've just allowed it by buying electronics from them.
Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
A Mexican navy sailing ship hit the Brooklyn Bridge on Saturday during a promotional tour in New York City, the top of its three masts slamming into the iconic span and partially collapsing.
Whew! That was more than a mouthful. So, the plaintiffs may be removed, but not in the way that they were removed? I think?
My own unlearned opinion is that we have rules such as Habeas Corpus for very good reasons, and that due process should never be ignored in this country. Even if the process involves people who are not legally residents, or even legally visitors.
With that said, I'm still happy to see the TdA guys go back where they came from. Preferably as soon as possible.
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"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Whew! That was more than a mouthful. So, the plaintiffs may be removed, but not in the way that they were removed? I think?
My own unlearned opinion is that we have rules such as Habeas Corpus for very good reasons, and that due process should never be ignored in this country. Even if the process involves people who are not legally residents, or even legally visitors.
With that said, I'm still happy to see the TdA guys go back where they came from. Preferably as soon as possible.
It basically said that it is not a Supreme Court matter yet. That the Circuit Court overstepped its bounds when it overruled the District court when the plaintiffs had not appealed to them. By granting the certiorari order they are knocking it back down to the lower courts so that jurisdictional prudence remains intact.
I agree with what you said about the laws surrounding habeus corpus; however, in this instance, the plaintiffs and a Circuit judge are actually the ones trying to bypass the due process that is in place. A District judge denied an injunction and a Circuit judge overstepped by recending the ruling and awarding the injunction without the proper procedures.
Thanks. That's the track that I was on, but I was unsure. I had to look up certiorari, which I saw involved a review by the higher court, but I got lost in thinking that the appeal had been made. Missed a step along the way, I suppose. Sounds like the Circuit Court was trying to make law, instead of interpret law, or at the very least jumping in where they didn't belong.
WARNING: The above post may contain thoughts or ideas known to the State of Caliphornia to cause seething rage, confusion, distemper, nausea, perspiration, sphincter release, or cranial implosion to persons who implicitly trust only one news source, or find themselves at either the left or right political extreme. Proceed at your own risk.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
I had an interestingly related conversation with someone awhile back. It was regarding insects being attracted to light. My questions were/are how do we know they are attracted to the light itself and not the electromagnetic field it produces? And if the insects are doing so at night, which more than likely makes them nocturnal, why would they be attracted to the light itself?
I, for one, am glad it has, and I hope he gets into the Hall.
I pretty firmly disagree. If he was in fact only betting on his own team to win (which there's no way to prove, how do we know he wasn't taking them against the spread, or god forbid betting against them), then he's still impacting the integrity of the game. He can do things such as saving his best reliever for the next game, where he could have already bet what is called a look-ahead line. He can overextend a pitcher in a game that he has extra money on. He can know whether a promising young player is or isn't getting called up from the minor leagues. It's a cardinal sin for a reason, and I think that permanent lifetime ban from ever playing or being associated with the game in any way is an important thing for every future player or employee to have in the back of their mind, should they get approached by someone telling them to fake an injury, or tamper with the baseballs, or something like that.
Calvin, I suspect you and I have significantly different perspectives on sports betting. You are working on making a living through betting, I care not a whit for anything more than a friendly $5 wager now and then, and based only on which team I WANT to win, no spread, no nothing. Just win or lose. Correct me if I am wrong, but your perspective on integrity of the game seems to be based on the effects of non-integrous behavior on the potential outcomes of sports betting.
IMO, a player cannot seriously affect the integrity of the game. The game (any sport) is what it is, just a game. It will survive bad actors, who have been around in every era. There are plenty of integrity-challenged individuals who cast a bad light on their sport, yet are allowed to continue to participate in the game, and remain eligible for honors. I think what is meant by "integrity of the game", when spoken by leaders of leagues, is more related to the integrity of the league or organization controlling those players within the league. As was mentioned by others, gambling in sports was once forbidden, but now that most leagues, professional and otherwise, not only accept betting, but condone, sanction, and benefit from it, they have forfeited the high ground in claiming harm to the game's integrity.
My take on Pete Rose is that, no, he should not have placed bets on any team within his sport while he was playing or managing, but if gambling in sports has gained acceptance of the league, then Pete Rose's performance on the field should be the greatest (or only) factor in his induction into the HOF, and there is no argument based on his performance that should keep him out.
I think betting on the sport you're playing, and taking steroids, are very similar. If someone feels that cheating, in either form, is not a disqualifier from the hall of fame, then that's ideologically consistent at least. If we ignore my job, and think about it purely from a fan's point of view, then I think that black cloud that hangs over Pete Rose is important for the future of the game.
You're 100% correct that gambling is being shoved down everyone's throats 24/7. It's obnoxious, invasive, and particularly harmful to teenagers watching the commercials and seeing lies being sold about potentially winning millions of dollars while their brains are developing. I agree with everything you said there.
For me, I just think that black cloud is important for the integrity of the games in the future. In the same way that I don't go robbing Walmart due to the potential repercussions of it, I think that it's helpful to have that black cloud permanently hanging over people like Pete Rose, so that future players and team employees always have it in their head. Without the integrity of the game, a fan will lose interest. If the games are fixed, it's just WWE. If in the back of your mind, you're legitimately wondering if what you're watching is even real, will you still hold the same interest in the game, as a fan? Whatever we can do to reduce the number of Pete Rose scenarios, I think is good. I think that the permanent punishment, even after his lifetime is over, is a net positive to professional sports as a whole.
But yet, Scott Foster still referees NBA games. I guess him and Tim were just calling each other back-and-forth thousands of times a year before games talking about the weather and the concession stands. Can you help me with this one?
If MLB truly cared about the integrity of the game, they'd hire a few umpires who know what a strike zone is, and maybe a few who could actually see it. They are getting exponentially worse calling balls and strikes.
I, for one, am glad it has, and I hope he gets into the Hall.
I pretty firmly disagree. If he was in fact only betting on his own team to win (which there's no way to prove, how do we know he wasn't taking them against the spread, or god forbid betting against them), then he's still impacting the integrity of the game. He can do things such as saving his best reliever for the next game, where he could have already bet what is called a look-ahead line. He can overextend a pitcher in a game that he has extra money on. He can know whether a promising young player is or isn't getting called up from the minor leagues. It's a cardinal sin for a reason, and I think that permanent lifetime ban from ever playing or being associated with the game in any way is an important thing for every future player or employee to have in the back of their mind, should they get approached by someone telling them to fake an injury, or tamper with the baseballs, or something like that.
Calvin, I suspect you and I have significantly different perspectives on sports betting. You are working on making a living through betting, I care not a whit for anything more than a friendly $5 wager now and then, and based only on which team I WANT to win, no spread, no nothing. Just win or lose. Correct me if I am wrong, but your perspective on integrity of the game seems to be based on the effects of non-integrous behavior on the potential outcomes of sports betting.
IMO, a player cannot seriously affect the integrity of the game. The game (any sport) is what it is, just a game. It will survive bad actors, who have been around in every era. There are plenty of integrity-challenged individuals who cast a bad light on their sport, yet are allowed to continue to participate in the game, and remain eligible for honors. I think what is meant by "integrity of the game", when spoken by leaders of leagues, is more related to the integrity of the league or organization controlling those players within the league. As was mentioned by others, gambling in sports was once forbidden, but now that most leagues, professional and otherwise, not only accept betting, but condone, sanction, and benefit from it, they have forfeited the high ground in claiming harm to the game's integrity.
My take on Pete Rose is that, no, he should not have placed bets on any team within his sport while he was playing or managing, but if gambling in sports has gained acceptance of the league, then Pete Rose's performance on the field should be the greatest (or only) factor in his induction into the HOF, and there is no argument based on his performance that should keep him out.
I think betting on the sport you're playing, and taking steroids, are very similar. If someone feels that cheating, in either form, is not a disqualifier from the hall of fame, then that's ideologically consistent at least. If we ignore my job, and think about it purely from a fan's point of view, then I think that black cloud that hangs over Pete Rose is important for the future of the game.
You're 100% correct that gambling is being shoved down everyone's throats 24/7. It's obnoxious, invasive, and particularly harmful to teenagers watching the commercials and seeing lies being sold about potentially winning millions of dollars while their brains are developing. I agree with everything you said there.
For me, I just think that black cloud is important for the integrity of the games in the future. In the same way that I don't go robbing Walmart due to the potential repercussions of it, I think that it's helpful to have that black cloud permanently hanging over people like Pete Rose, so that future players and team employees always have it in their head. Without the integrity of the game, a fan will lose interest. If the games are fixed, it's just WWE. If in the back of your mind, you're legitimately wondering if what you're watching is even real, will you still hold the same interest in the game, as a fan? Whatever we can do to reduce the number of Pete Rose scenarios, I think is good. I think that the permanent punishment, even after his lifetime is over, is a net positive to professional sports as a whole.
But yet, Scott Foster still referees NBA games. I guess him and Tim were just calling each other back-and-forth thousands of times a year before games talking about the weather and the concession stands. Can you help me with this one?
I think Scott Foster either used to be crooked, or still is crooked, but I obviously can't prove it.
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Don't forget the cigar.
and the gat.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/volvo-ex90s-lidar-sensor-will-fry-your-phones-camera
This is incredible; A promising genetic treatment tailor-made for a baby born with a rare disorder.
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/05/15/nx-s1-5389620/gene-editing-treatment-crispr-inherited
I tried to post the link but it doesn't allow me to post 😕
I don't have problems, just more work to do.
Nothing new. The Chinese have been positioning themselves so they can defeat the united states for decades. We've just allowed it by buying electronics from them.
Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
They're pretending like they just learned this
I don't have problems, just more work to do.
Sounds like Hog-wash
I don't have problems, just more work to do.
A Mexican navy sailing ship hit the Brooklyn Bridge on Saturday during a promotional tour in New York City, the top of its three masts slamming into the iconic span and partially collapsing.
https://nbc4i.co/3EYoqaT?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_NBC4
I don't have problems, just more work to do.
Mexico has a navy? Why?
Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
I’m still trying to determine if that was a serious question or not.
I have friends from my High School Sailing Club that have been in the Tall Ship's Parade. Pretty cool, but this is tragic.
https://moparinsiders.com/first-look-2026-dodge-charger-daytona-scat-pack-four-door/
https://moparinsiders.com/2026-dodge-charger-sixpack-ice-models-get-bold-new-trim-names/
Frank is wondering how many kids and kidneys he'll have to sell.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a1007_g2bh.pdf
Whew! That was more than a mouthful. So, the plaintiffs may be removed, but not in the way that they were removed? I think?
My own unlearned opinion is that we have rules such as Habeas Corpus for very good reasons, and that due process should never be ignored in this country. Even if the process involves people who are not legally residents, or even legally visitors.
With that said, I'm still happy to see the TdA guys go back where they came from. Preferably as soon as possible.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
It basically said that it is not a Supreme Court matter yet. That the Circuit Court overstepped its bounds when it overruled the District court when the plaintiffs had not appealed to them. By granting the certiorari order they are knocking it back down to the lower courts so that jurisdictional prudence remains intact.
I agree with what you said about the laws surrounding habeus corpus; however, in this instance, the plaintiffs and a Circuit judge are actually the ones trying to bypass the due process that is in place. A District judge denied an injunction and a Circuit judge overstepped by recending the ruling and awarding the injunction without the proper procedures.
Thanks. That's the track that I was on, but I was unsure. I had to look up certiorari, which I saw involved a review by the higher court, but I got lost in thinking that the appeal had been made. Missed a step along the way, I suppose. Sounds like the Circuit Court was trying to make law, instead of interpret law, or at the very least jumping in where they didn't belong.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Activist judges.
Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
Electric Entomology: How Insects Interact With Electricity in the Environment
https://entomologytoday.org/2025/05/20/electric-entomology-insects-interact-electricity-environment/
I had an interestingly related conversation with someone awhile back. It was regarding insects being attracted to light. My questions were/are how do we know they are attracted to the light itself and not the electromagnetic field it produces? And if the insects are doing so at night, which more than likely makes them nocturnal, why would they be attracted to the light itself?
But yet, Scott Foster still referees NBA games. I guess him and Tim were just calling each other back-and-forth thousands of times a year before games talking about the weather and the concession stands. Can you help me with this one?
If MLB truly cared about the integrity of the game, they'd hire a few umpires who know what a strike zone is, and maybe a few who could actually see it. They are getting exponentially worse calling balls and strikes.
I think Scott Foster either used to be crooked, or still is crooked, but I obviously can't prove it.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s43681-025-00740-6
Artificial intelligence and free will: generative agents utilizing large language models have functional free will
Is that why they make stuff up?
Don't let the wife know what you spend on guns, ammo or cigars.
https://www.psypost.org/a-common-childhood-virus-could-be-silently-fueling-alzheimers-disease-in-old-age/
https://aeon.co/essays/what-is-the-cure-for-the-wests-individualist-worldview
"The relational perspective, as Rošker points out, asks us to take ownership for society’s problems rather than seeing ourselves as innocent victims."