The Ross and Vision Argument Thread.

Perhaps I have a solution for the two of you… LMFAO… Why don’t you guys DM each other a D!€K pic with a measuring tape so we can end all this nonsense?

Ima start a contest. Guess how long @Ross_G89 sticks around. Closest one wins several 5-packs of seconds, made from Cuban seed tobaccos.

I love it! Here I’ll start. I never recommended AJ Fernandez New World Cigar line…… I use the term “New World” to describe all of the cigars, not made in Cuba…. and a self proclaimed know everything didn’t know the term?!??!…. That’s day one shǐt! You claim to know so much and have done this extensive research on not only cigars, but the cigar industry and you come to a little forum seeking advice on cigars that you haven’t tried, but may want to try, based off of some strangers opinion? This is utter insanity. You’re not here to look for our opinion. If you’ve done research on any part of the cigar hobby as you say you have, you wouldn’t need our opinion. So either one of two things is correct ….you’re full of shît but may smoke the occasional cigar and use ChatGPT as your source of reference. Or you’re full of **** and came here in hopes that people would say “ oh my god this guy is so smart!”

This can be easily ironed out. Post the photos of the cigars that you say you smoke. None of that BS response saying stuff like well I don’t smoke them regularly or it’s a special occasion…., blah blah blah. Stop sounding like you’ve read some bullshit from ChatGPT and start posting photos.

You know what? Let’s keep going. You keep mentioning aroma. Is this the aroma you get off of the foot or the wrapper of an unlit Cigar? Are we talking about the room note, the smell given off by a cigar while it’s being smoked? If you’re talking about off of an unlit Cigar, do you actually pick up cigars at a local shop and sniff them? Are you actually picking up cigars in cellophane and without and handling a Cigar that you may not purchase and that may end up in somebody else’s mouth? Do you truly believe that you can get the full experience of aroma through a cellophane covered Cigar? If you are in fact, picking up a cigar that has no cellophane on it, sniffing it and putting it back unpurchased that’s pretty **** disgusting.

@Vision said:
I love it! Here I’ll start. I never recommended AJ Fernandez New World Cigar line…… I use the term “New World” to describe all of the cigars, not made in Cuba…. and a self proclaimed know everything didn’t know the term?!??!…. That’s day one shǐt! You claim to know so much and have done this extensive research on not only cigars, but the cigar industry and you come to a little forum seeking advice on cigars that you haven’t tried, but may want to try, based off of some strangers opinion? This is utter insanity. You’re not here to look for our opinion. If you’ve done research on any part of the cigar hobby as you say you have, you wouldn’t need our opinion. So either one of two things is correct ….you’re full of shît but may smoke the occasional cigar and use ChatGPT as your source of reference. Or you’re full of **** and came here in hopes that people would say “ oh my god this guy is so smart!”

This can be easily ironed out. Post the photos of the cigars that you say you smoke. None of that BS response saying stuff like well I don’t smoke them regularly or it’s a special occasion…., blah blah blah. Stop sounding like you’ve read some bullshit from ChatGPT and start posting photos.

So actually both of your ideas are wrong. Not too many people these days smoke cigars, real cigar smokers are a dying breed, unfortunately. Here in Southern California there’s a community of cigar smokers, but only a hand full know anything about the
cigar that they are smoking. I’m not able to talk to people about Cigars in definition or in detail. I’m not into online groups or social media, but I figured I would give it a try. I don’t give a flying **** what you think of me. I’m not trying to show off, I’m not trying to look smart. There’s a lot of other things I would rather show off my intelligence about other than Cigars. I don’t think Cigars should be a subject of debate, but rather a discussion that is based on experience and passion. I don’t know how many times I need to tell you, for me, Cigars are more than just something to smoke, it’s a fine art that takes years of not decades to create. Same could be said for whiskey and wine. You got people who are alcoholics and drink every single day all day, and it’s usually the cheap ****, then you got people who drink a couple times a week of a very fine spirit or wine and they do it for the art and for the moment they are in. Cigars are not just about the kind that you are smoking, it’s also about the moment, the time committed to it, the people you share it with. Listening to you talk the last couple days tells me that you and I are not on the same boat, in fact we’re not even on the same planet. You want pictures? Will do. I’ll send pics from some of the cigars I’ve smoked in the last few months. But even after you see the pictures, what will that prove for you? Again, I’m not trying to get people‘s attention, I’m not trying to get a wow out of them. I really just like talking Cigars and if it upsets you so much then I’m sorry, we don’t need to talk. I sent a pic of a cigar I smoked this morning, if you don’t know what it is then you should use ChatGPT since you used it trying to confirm my information I gave you on your cigar.

Want more?

Is little bro buying Cubans in the states!? 🤫🤔

Edit. You have soft looking hands…. Manicure?

@Ross_G89 said:

@Vision said:
I love it! Here I’ll start. I never recommended AJ Fernandez New World Cigar line…… I use the term “New World” to describe all of the cigars, not made in Cuba…. and a self proclaimed know everything didn’t know the term?!??!…. That’s day one shǐt! You claim to know so much and have done this extensive research on not only cigars, but the cigar industry and you come to a little forum seeking advice on cigars that you haven’t tried, but may want to try, based off of some strangers opinion? This is utter insanity. You’re not here to look for our opinion. If you’ve done research on any part of the cigar hobby as you say you have, you wouldn’t need our opinion. So either one of two things is correct ….you’re full of shît but may smoke the occasional cigar and use ChatGPT as your source of reference. Or you’re full of **** and came here in hopes that people would say “ oh my god this guy is so smart!”

This can be easily ironed out. Post the photos of the cigars that you say you smoke. None of that BS response saying stuff like well I don’t smoke them regularly or it’s a special occasion…., blah blah blah. Stop sounding like you’ve read some bullshit from ChatGPT and start posting photos.

So actually both of your ideas are wrong. Not too many people these days smoke cigars, real cigar smokers are a dying breed, unfortunately. Here in Southern California there’s a community of cigar smokers, but only a hand full know anything about the
cigar that they are smoking. I’m not able to talk to people about Cigars in definition or in detail. I’m not into online groups or social media, but I figured I would give it a try. I don’t give a flying **** what you think of me. I’m not trying to show off, I’m not trying to look smart. There’s a lot of other things I would rather show off my intelligence about other than Cigars. I don’t think Cigars should be a subject of debate, but rather a discussion that is based on experience and passion. I don’t know how many times I need to tell you, for me, Cigars are more than just something to smoke, it’s a fine art that takes years of not decades to create. Same could be said for whiskey and wine. You got people who are alcoholics and drink every single day all day, and it’s usually the cheap ****, then you got people who drink a couple times a week of a very fine spirit or wine and they do it for the art and for the moment they are in. Cigars are not just about the kind that you are smoking, it’s also about the moment, the time committed to it, the people you share it with. Listening to you talk the last couple days tells me that you and I are not on the same boat, in fact we’re not even on the same planet. You want pictures? Will do. I’ll send pics from some of the cigars I’ve smoked in the last few months. But even after you see the pictures, what will that prove for you? Again, I’m not trying to get people‘s attention, I’m not trying to get a wow out of them. I really just like talking Cigars and if it upsets you so much then I’m sorry, we don’t need to talk. I sent a pic of a cigar I smoked this morning, if you don’t know what it is then you should use ChatGPT since you used it trying to confirm my information I gave you on your cigar.

This nonsensical babble proves to me right here you’re full of ****. Cigar smoking hasn’t seen an influx of new Cigar smokers since the cigar boom of the 90s It hasn’t had an increase like this since. You you think what, that we just all happened to pick up a cigar yesterday? Little brother, I’ve smoked more cigars this year than you have in your lifetime. You use buzz words like aroma and fine art like you’re reading this from a **** magazine. Nothing you have said so far makes me believe you’re a cigar smoker whatsoever. Sure you’ve smoked a cigar, but you’re no cigar smoker. You’re playing in the minor leagues, my friend. I’ve been taking swings in the majors for years. I just want one tidbit of information to fall from your face that even remotely makes me believe that you are in fact somebody who smokes cigars as a hobby and not some **** Internet douche bag, taking photos of overpriced cigars to show his community college buddies on Instagram. I’m no amateur kid. Now run along and be home by the time the street lights come on.

i’m going to respond with the most intellectual thing that I can muster up.

😑

Again, so far you have said nothing to intrigue me or even make me believe you are as an avid cigar smoker as you say. You will either leave on your own, be laughed off the forum, or by some magical fuckîng happenstance, decide to open your ears more than you do your mouth and actually learn something about cigar smoking.

@Ross_G89 said:
Well said Vision! Again. I don’t need to prove myself to you, but I see where you stand now. When you want to come down off your perch, you know where to find me. (Hint) not here!

That’s where you’re wrong again, my friend. That’s exactly why you’re here, to seek our approval.

@Vision said:
And one more question. Have you actually tried the New World Cigar line from AJ Fernandez? They are tremendous through and through from top to bottom throughout the entire line...

A statement from Pete that I can get behind!