Tennessee Proposed Bill SB2086

Yakster
Yakster Posts: 32,642 ✭✭✭✭✭

For our folks in TN, please call your legislators about opposing SB2086

In particular line:
“57-8-111. Delivery sales prohibited.
All sales of tobacco products must be conducted in-person in the licensed
location. It is unlawful for a licensed tobacco product retailer or the retailer's agents or
employees to sell, offer for sale, or deliver a tobacco product to a consumer in a manner
other than an in-person, over-the-counter transaction at the location of the tobacco
product retailer's licensed retail store.”

https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/114/Bill/SB2086.pdf

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  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 10,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 3

    E-mail sent to my representative, both houses.

    I included in the e-mail the fact that the proposed legislation would have zero effect on the voters in the bill's sponsors area, as they live in an urban area and can easily drive to a place where such products are available. Those of us in rural areas would be the only ones affected.

    In other words, the whole thing is a grand-stand play to sway the authoritarian socialists that his district is full of while oppressing the rights and opportunities of those not living in his district.

    Post edited by Amos_Umwhat on
    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed.  If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." --  Mark Twain
  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 10,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrShrek , @Bob_Luken , @TNBigfoot68 , y'all are closer to home for this representative, perhaps hearing from voters nearby would help.

    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed.  If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." --  Mark Twain
  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 10,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Yakster said:
    For our folks in TN, please call your legislators about opposing SB2086

    In particular line:
    “57-8-111. Delivery sales prohibited.
    All sales of tobacco products must be conducted in-person in the licensed
    location. It is unlawful for a licensed tobacco product retailer or the retailer's agents or
    employees to sell, offer for sale, or deliver a tobacco product to a consumer in a manner
    other than an in-person, over-the-counter transaction at the location of the tobacco
    product retailer's licensed retail store.”

    https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/114/Bill/SB2086.pdf

    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed.  If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." --  Mark Twain
  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 10,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bumped that up, Chris, because I noticed that my replies were not showing up as today, but as Feb 2nd. Groundhog Day joke? Just kidding. But, I do wonder if the large number of well deserved WTFs was preventing the thread from being updated? Or, I could just be paranoid.

    At any rate, I've notified my reps, hoping others in the state will follow. It's a case of an urban representative 'punching down' on the rural people in other parts of the state. His own voters have access to many outlets within a few miles of their homes, so, no blowback in his district. Probably pretending to protect the children, as well as appealing to the socialist bloc in his district.

    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed.  If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." --  Mark Twain
  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 10,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That one showed up as today. ^^

    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed.  If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." --  Mark Twain
  • silvermouse
    silvermouse Posts: 24,263 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Introduced to protect the B&Ms or to generate compliance with the tax codes ?

  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 10,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 3

    @silvermouse said:
    Introduced to protect the B&Ms or to generate compliance with the tax codes ?

    No significant B&Ms within 150 miles of me, we're already paying taxes on what gets shipped, no, I'm going with low risk self-aggrandizement on the part of the legislator in question.

    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed.  If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." --  Mark Twain
  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,327 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 3

    @Amos_Umwhat said:
    E-mail sent to my representative, both houses.

    I included in the e-mail the fact that the proposed legislation would have zero effect on the voters in the bill's sponsors area, as they live in an urban area and can easily drive to a place where such products are available. Those of us in rural areas would be the only ones affected.

    In other words, the whole thing is a grand-stand play to sway the authoritarian socialists that his district is full of while oppressing the rights and opportunities of those not living in his district.

    You know this was a Republican agenda, correct?

    As reported by Half Wheel
    The bill was introduced by Sen. Shane Reeves, R-Murfreesboro, and has four other Republican co-sponsors.

    I love that you immediately went and blamed socialists lol

    BTW. Not new for this guy, who is a pharmacist whom opposes tobacco.

    https://halfwheel.com/tennessee-lawmakers-push-for-tobacco-purchasing-age-increase/295494/

  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 10,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vision said:

    @Amos_Umwhat said:
    E-mail sent to my representative, both houses.

    I included in the e-mail the fact that the proposed legislation would have zero effect on the voters in the bill's sponsors area, as they live in an urban area and can easily drive to a place where such products are available. Those of us in rural areas would be the only ones affected.

    In other words, the whole thing is a grand-stand play to sway the authoritarian socialists that his district is full of while oppressing the rights and opportunities of those not living in his district.

    You know this was a Republican agenda, correct?

    As reported by Half Wheel
    The bill was introduced by Sen. Shane Reeves, R-Murfreesboro, and has four other Republican co-sponsors.

    I love that you immediately went and blamed socialists lol

    BTW. Not new for this guy, who is a pharmacist whom opposes tobacco.

    https://halfwheel.com/tennessee-lawmakers-push-for-tobacco-purchasing-age-increase/295494/

    lol, yes, I did know. Many R's are not immune from socialistic attitudes, I feel this is one of those. Did you assume that by socialist I meant Democrat? Not so. Like some others, I believe in ideas, not party politics.

    Recently I've been defending Republicans from what I believe to be spurious and unwarranted attacks, just as I did with Obama, and Muslims in general a few years back. First one side and then the other gets carried away, in my opinion, and I disagree with what they're doing or saying. It has little or nothing to do with the labels that they and others affix.

    But, I suppose I affix the labels as well, the difference being that I'm describing the idea, more than the individual. I'm human too, though, and can also fall into the tribal mode of thought.

    So, I'm against the bill, and the idea behind it, and I don't care which party is to blame, I remain unchanged.

    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed.  If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." --  Mark Twain
  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,327 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Amos_Umwhat said:

    @Vision said:

    @Amos_Umwhat said:
    E-mail sent to my representative, both houses.

    I included in the e-mail the fact that the proposed legislation would have zero effect on the voters in the bill's sponsors area, as they live in an urban area and can easily drive to a place where such products are available. Those of us in rural areas would be the only ones affected.

    In other words, the whole thing is a grand-stand play to sway the authoritarian socialists that his district is full of while oppressing the rights and opportunities of those not living in his district.

    You know this was a Republican agenda, correct?

    As reported by Half Wheel
    The bill was introduced by Sen. Shane Reeves, R-Murfreesboro, and has four other Republican co-sponsors.

    I love that you immediately went and blamed socialists lol

    BTW. Not new for this guy, who is a pharmacist whom opposes tobacco.

    https://halfwheel.com/tennessee-lawmakers-push-for-tobacco-purchasing-age-increase/295494/

    lol, yes, I did know. Many R's are not immune from socialistic attitudes, I feel this is one of those. Did you assume that by socialist I meant Democrat? Not so. Like some others, I believe in ideas, not party politics.

    Recently I've been defending Republicans from what I believe to be spurious and unwarranted attacks, just as I did with Obama, and Muslims in general a few years back. First one side and then the other gets carried away, in my opinion, and I disagree with what they're doing or saying. It has little or nothing to do with the labels that they and others affix.

    But, I suppose I affix the labels as well, the difference being that I'm describing the idea, more than the individual. I'm human too, though, and can also fall into the tribal mode of thought.

    So, I'm against the bill, and the idea behind it, and I don't care which party is to blame, I remain unchanged.

    I posted on this almost a week ago in the news thread. I’ve been following it and reading up on it. I’ll also be forward and say when you went with the whole socialist angle, you lost me on the message. Even one guy on Half Wheel just leaned into the whole leftist idea of this Bill. He didn’t read that it was 4+ Republicans. But this is the world we live in.

  • Bob_Luken
    Bob_Luken Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t have time for this.
    Is there any chance in hell that this will pass?

  • Rdp77
    Rdp77 Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bob_Luken said:
    I don’t have time for this.
    Is there any chance in hell that this will pass?

    Yeah there’s a chance. Hawaii has a similar law. South Dakota did but repealed it.

    If it don’t bother me, it don’t bother me. Just leave me alone.

  • Yakster
    Yakster Posts: 32,642 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Washington State and Utah also have similar laws.

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  • silvermouse
    silvermouse Posts: 24,263 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4

    @Rdp77 said:

    @Bob_Luken said:
    I don’t have time for this.
    Is there any chance in hell that this will pass?

    Yeah there’s a chance. Hawaii has a similar law. South Dakota did but repealed it.

    Hell has frozen over, where have you been? We are all skating on thin ice now.

  • OmgFrigginMike
    OmgFrigginMike Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it does pass reach out to me and I can share a few places I've discovered here in Utah that will still ship.