Box Storage Options HELP
Please give me advice, and if you can answer the questions I have, I would greatly appreciate you.
Right now I have two full boxes of Cain Maduros, ones a toro, the other a nub box. One full box of Undercrown Maduros.
And I also got a great deal on these so I wanted to try out the Deadwood ladies: one full box of Crazy Alice, and Fat Bottom Betty.
I’ve been storing them in Sistema containers, I separated the deadwood- is that necessary? I’ve found such a mix of opinion that yes they are indeed infused, or no they are not infused. To be safe I have been storing them separately. Had these box’s for about a month now.
I’ve been storing them with their lids propped open using tooth picks. Is that necessary? I also found that the cigars seemed stiff/hard so I swapped out my 65 bovedas for 69 because it’s warming up here in AZ, and with the heat on in the house when my ambient temp goes above 72, my RH starts dropping.
Are these boxes actually made with Spanish cedar? I wanted to keep them in their original boxes, and just pull out a stick at a time as I smoke them because I’ve always believed it’s the best option to keep cigars in their original boxes whenever possible. I also placed a small boveda pack underneath the cigars inside their boxes to help with the humidity. Do I need to prop open the lids/ tops of the boxes? Is it safe to have a small boveda pack inside the actual cigar box at the bottom underneath the cigars?
And with the deadwood cigars.. the boxes look cool… but… they stink! It smells like lacquer or whatever they use to finish the box to that reddish color. Will that smell impart on the cigars?
Is it really important or beneficial for the cigars to have them in the original box? Or would it be better for the cigars themselves to just be out of the box, in a wooden humidor or in a normal set up tupperdor?
I’ve got a lot of Rubbermaid brilliance containers that I store my cigars in, singles and packs and whatnot and I place Spanish cedar sheets in them and they all smell amazing and seem to be better than some actual wooden humidors.
Please help and let me know what you would do/ what I should do.
Thank you kindly,
M
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Most boxes are not actually Spanish cedar. If you notice on the Drew Estate boxes, there are small strips of veneer on the inside of the box. That’s the Spanish cedar.
Storing boxes takes patience. When you put boveda in a box, the cigars and the box are going to take awhile to stabilize humidity. Propping them open like that will help the air circulation, but if you’re also putting boveda in the box it’s not really necessary. But most of this hobby is personal preference.
As far as the painted boxes, that strong smelling lacquer will definitely have an affect over time. If you can smell it your cigars can absorb it. It will take awhile though.
When you put new boxes in, they will absorb humidity. Changing humidity levels on your boveda packs is not the answer. That only adds a higher level of moisture and defeats the purpose of using boveda. If your boveda dry out, recharge and replace them with same rh level. That way once the boxes and cigars stabilize the boveda can do its job by regulating that level. If you’re using sealed containers like systema or brilliance, the moisture cannot leave the container. It just changes where it is.
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I àgree with Rusty spot on, I think a boveda in the box is overkill and maybe inviting mold. The boxes will take time to acclimate, if you suspect some cigars are dry you may be right but time will make them right at the correct ph
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Most boxes are not actually Spanish cedar. If you notice on the Drew Estate boxes, there are small strips of veneer on the inside of the box. That’s the Spanish cedar.Storing boxes takes patience. When you put boveda in a box, the cigars and the box are going to take awhile to stabilize humidity. Propping them open like that will help the air circulation, but if you’re also putting boveda in the box it’s not really necessary. But most of this hobby is personal preference.
As far as the painted boxes, that strong smelling lacquer will definitely have an affect over time. If you can smell it your cigars can absorb it. It will take awhile though.
When you put new boxes in, they will absorb humidity. Changing humidity levels on your boveda packs is not the answer. That only adds a higher level of moisture and defeats the purpose of using boveda. If your boveda dry out, recharge and replace them with same rh level. That way once the boxes and cigars stabilize the boveda can do its job by regulating that level. If you’re using sealed containers like systema or brilliance, the moisture cannot leave the container. It just changes where it is.
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Okay.
1. I am going to remove the small boveda packets inside the cigar boxes.I may just remove the Deadwood cigars from their original box and place them inside a smaller Rubbermaid brilliance container, because of the smell of the lacquer from the box. Unless you think I could close the lid of the box and keep it as is inside the Sistema, and over time the cigars will humidify being kept at the right RH?
Is it safe to keep the Cigar box lids closed, and will the cigars still be properly humidified? And when I want to smoke one can I pull it right out of the box and enjoy it,’or should I pull out a few at a time, place them in my humidor for a few weeks before smoking?
My Boveda packs have not dried out at all, I started out using 65 boveda, however with the rising temperatures here in AZ and the ambient temp in my home it was causing the 65 boveda packs to regulate at about 62/63 or even less. I’m hoping that with the boveda 69s it won’t go below 66/67…
Being new to Cigars this will be my first summer with storing my sticks and it will be interesting to see how it goes. Living in this AZ desert heat and dry climate. I started purchasing cigars in December of this past year and I’ve stored them in tupperdors and it’s been relatively easy albeit a learning experience. A fun learning experience. There is so much to learn about cigars, it truly is an art form storing cigars.
If you can answer my questions above I think that will wrap up my confusion for the time being and send me off in the right direction for a while.
I greatly appreciate all the help and I am so very grateful to be gaining this wisdom.
Thank you kindly,
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If you have stinky boxes get them out, your Bovedas will overcome a multitude of sins as far as cigar storage goes
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I would store the cigars separately from the boxes with sealed containers with Boveda packs. Remember wooden humidors are seasoned before they are put in use and reseason later down the road. Where you are putting a dry boxes with cigars which will cause nothing but problems in my opinion..
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