All of his work with Apple and Pixar changed the way users interact with technology...no one brought a better hassle-free user experience than him. RIP
In recent years, after years of using a PC, I first got an iMac, then an iPad, and now an iPhone. I'm not a fanboy, but the *** works, and works well. He invented what the masses wanted before they even knew they wanted it. Apple will be much weakened in about three years, after the projects Jobs pushed are out of the pipeline. I read in the obit that Apple has/had mor ee cash reserves that the U.S. Treasury.
I've got little love for Apple or its fanboys, but Jobs had a knack for knowing what people wanted before they themselves did - he gave people something they never knew existed and showed them something new and wonderful. that made their lives better. He revolutionized the mp3 player, the phone, the tablet, and the computer in a way no one saw coming, and he did it without subsidies. In a word, he was a true visionary. RIP - however many billions he made, he earned every penny.
Luko:
I read in the obit that Apple has/had mor ee cash reserves that the U.S. Treasury.
IIRC, Apple last year surpassed Exxon Mobil as the richest company on the planet - only reason they were able to do that was because of Mr. Jobs' vision
It is sad that he passed. A day after the 4S release, which although doesn't have physical visual improvements actually has many. Over 200 new IOS features, 8MP camera, 1080P HD video, new A5 chip, first phone to communicate with two towers for sending and recieving to increase speed, new built-in apps, better battery life, and best of all siri assistant. It may visually look the same, but it is a huge upgrade! Oh did i mention a 64 gig too? I'm an iphone junkie so, yes i was hoping for a bigger screen and slimmer model, but none the less, it is still an awesome phone!
A lot of people die, every day. I'm not going to miss the guy, and from reading a lot of what people say about him who worked with him, he was sort of a d-i-c-k. I mean I have worked with many bosses that fit that catergory. I wouldn't miss them either. True he did influence the industry but so do a lot of people. He was a control freak and had a strict model on how to do things.
I never really liked the mac os, and I really don't like the flat amount of control one has over it. I work with computers ever day and from what I have found, a lot of people who say, oh I left my pc and I love my mac, never really had a good computer or knew what they were doing. A lot of people I work with go to BB or dell and get a 500 dollar pc, then they complain about things. Well macs are about 1500 and up and sure your going to get better hardware. it's not the os. Either way mac or pc they both are nice.
I'm wondering how apple is going to run now. I know jobs had to step back in to reign in the company but now with him gone I am really curious how it will continue.
Steve Jobs...human level, sad story----------real life contrbutions that I consider a value to society, who the f*ck cares. Erradicating polio was a great feat....making electronics to disconnect us from human interaction and find a way for us to be more productive and multi task oriened? Kiss my d!ck
Squirrels run from the nearest danger and Vultures hover over the dead. You guys are just angry about every one it seems. Who are your heroes?. Do you know that Steve Jobs was a professed liberal, vegan, buddhist? As to comparing a Mac to the plastic PC, don't even get me started. Even Bill Gates runs his Windows on a Mac.
I moved to Silicon Valley from SoCal in the mid 70s to go to college. It was the very earliest days of personal computing. After graduating, I took a year off and then went back to grad school, and by the time I finished grad school, I started to see more and more PCs...it was 1982. I went thru undergrad and grad school having never used a personal computer.........how old do you think I feel?........on the other hand, Steve Jobs was only 1 year older than me, barely.
I was working for a major Silicon Valley "think tank" in the early/mid 80s, when senior management said all consultants had to turn in proposals on floppy disks.....no more hand-written, or typed proposals, reports, etc. Some of the older guys nearly crapped their pants...... I went out and bought a MacPlus, maxed out the RAM to 4 megabytes, bought an additional external floppy drive, and later my first hard drive. Then I popped it open, tweaked and clipped a few things (tricks learned from a Mac User's Group) and hooked it up to a 19 inch black and white Mirror Technologies monitor.....this was like 1986!....I was running dual monitors......the PC world took YEARS before they could do anything remotely like that.
Needless to say, that was the first of many Macs and Apple products I have purchased over the years. Apple computers ran our small consulting firm for 10 years. Apple computers allowed the four of us to behave like a company with 40 employees....we did everything in-house, which was truly innovative in 1990. I had a IIci that was a productive machine for 8 of those years, starting out as the main work station, and ending up as a print server. That IIci had a stretch where it stayed on for almost 4 years!....and it never flinched. I use PCs, I own a Thinkpad and an HP tower..........but for me.......it's not even close...........Apple's OS and Hardware is simply better...............my wife and kids won't even touch a PC.
The passing of Steve Jobs is truly a sad affair. I just hope Apple survives his loss, because the vultures will be circling trying to poach their best people.
I am sad to see him go, I always liked his flair and his sense of dramatics... I used to love his "Oh, and one more thing!" in his keynotes before he would announce what the world wanted to hear.
I do believe, however, that we can celebrate the joy he has brought us, but must also realize that he himself was just a business man...
I like to think fondly of him as to what he's brought to the table (I'm currently typing this on my three week old Macbook Pro... But it's the first Mac I've bought ever!), but I will not exalt him on any other level... Rest in Peace good sir... You did well...
Nothing is off limits to talk about....or to joke about, even death. And if people feel that it is, tough $hit. Especially the dead....except for the possibility for a ressurection, they dont get a vote........G. Carlin
Steve Jobs...human level, sad story----------real life contrbutions that I consider a value to society, who the f*ck cares. Erradicating polio was a great feat....making electronics to disconnect us from human interaction and find a way for us to be more productive and multi task oriened? Kiss my d!ck
If it wasn't for Jobs, the computer wouldn't be where it is today. This statement says a lot about you as a person. Apple fan or not, the man thought outside the box, that alone should be admired.
Squirrels run from the nearest danger and Vultures hover over the dead. You guys are just angry about every one it seems. Who are your heroes?. Do you know that Steve Jobs was a professed liberal, vegan, buddhist? As to comparing a Mac to the plastic PC, don't even get me started. Even Bill Gates runs his Windows on a Mac.
I would be VERY ashamed of myself (not making an attack on you or anyone else here) and have to recheck what I was doing on this earth to refer to Steve Jobs as "hero" of mine. My father battled incurable lung cancer for a year and a half prior to losing his life 3 months ago------he was a hero of mine. My little sister and mother, as much a pain in the @ss they can be to everyone, stood by him the best they could and did him honor-----they are heroes of mine. My wife puts up with me, raises my children, helps people daily, and rarely looks for any praise or adulation for herself-----she is a hero of mine
If we wanna talk other "heros" a few come to mind....though I have a difficult time saying full Hero(es), but------Jonas Salk, Lou Gehrig, and Hospice. To call any person I dont fully know a hero of mine seems a little fake, and a little dangerous since I am going on 2nd and 3rd party opinion....but to call a celebrity one based on business successes seems foolish. If Steve Jobs were "Ed Jones" no one would have known of his cancer or struggle or other things----so lets remember its only his commercialism and wealth that brings him to the forefront anyway. Liberal, vegan, buddhist----this makes him no more a hero to me than does inventing a neat phone. Life goes far beyond the obtaining and creation of "things".
I think we would be no worse off as peole or individuals if the computer isnt where it is today-----I truly believe we as humans would be closer to those around us if that werent the case. The generation of social retards coming up, that cannot talk to each other f2f but can text each other from across a room prove that..................As far as admiring it, by your logic Krieg me saying what I am sayign about the man is "outside the box" and thinking in a way most people dont (ie the praise and sadness over a man who provided so much materialism to our world) so shouldnt that be admired or me as well? Dont make broad based assumptions about what a comment I make says about me as a person because anything someone says can be taken two ways. Just because you see it as a loss of a great man who brought us great technolgy----there are plenty who see it from my side. Doesnt mean I am whatever you are trying to paint me as--------just means there is more to life than stuff and many people die everyday with no fanfare than contributed as much, or more, to the betterment of humanity.
A few thoughts then I am out of this thread for good as I do not like the diversion it has taken. Jobs is NOT one of my heroes but I do recognize his acheivements and the value he has added to the culture. From my favorite author two closing thoughts. "A mans life consists not in the abundance of things he possesses" and "From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks"
Squirrels run from the nearest danger and Vultures hover over the dead. You guys are just angry about every one it seems. Who are your heroes?. Do you know that Steve Jobs was a professed liberal, vegan, buddhist? As to comparing a Mac to the plastic PC, don't even get me started. Even Bill Gates runs his Windows on a Mac.
lol, yeah maybe because so many machines that come with windows suck. It's all in hardware. Apple has pretty much their own hardware, so there are strict standards which is good, but it's usually the "last" gen. And the price doesn't reflect that. My rig with windows 7 can run circles around any MAC and I built it for less than higher end macs. Steve might have been a liberal but that doesn't mean anything to me. I don't hate the guy for the record. Oh and for the record on the whole pc vs mac, mac's newest os is so unsecure it's a joke. let's not bring into the debate that apple likes to hide the security issues from their customers. then again their customers are basically paying double the price for what they should be buying.
In recent years, after years of using a PC, I first got an iMac, then an iPad, and now an iPhone. I'm not a fanboy, but the *** works, and works well. He invented what the masses wanted before they even knew they wanted it. Apple will be much weakened in about three years, after the projects Jobs pushed are out of the pipeline. I read in the obit that Apple has/had mor ee cash reserves that the U.S. Treasury.
In recent years, after years of using a PC, I first got an iMac, then an iPad, and now an iPhone. I'm not a fanboy, but the *** works, and works well. He invented what the masses wanted before they even knew they wanted it. Apple will be much weakened in about three years, after the projects Jobs pushed are out of the pipeline. I read in the obit that Apple has/had mor ee cash reserves that the U.S. Treasury.
I think we would be no worse off as peole or individuals if the computer isnt where it is today-----I truly believe we as humans would be closer to those around us if that werent the case. The generation of social retards coming up, that cannot talk to each other f2f but can text each other from across a room prove that..................As far as admiring it, by your logic Krieg me saying what I am sayign about the man is "outside the box" and thinking in a way most people dont (ie the praise and sadness over a man who provided so much materialism to our world) so shouldnt that be admired or me as well? Dont make broad based assumptions about what a comment I make says about me as a person because anything someone says can be taken two ways. Just because you see it as a loss of a great man who brought us great technolgy----there are plenty who see it from my side. Doesnt mean I am whatever you are trying to paint me as--------just means there is more to life than stuff and many people die everyday with no fanfare than contributed as much, or more, to the betterment of humanity.
Very true about how people are losing that "interaction" thing. I mean I watch people sitting at a resturant text each other rather than talk! it's freaking horrible. Not that I blame any one person for that it's just sad that people can't get it.
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I never really liked the mac os, and I really don't like the flat amount of control one has over it. I work with computers ever day and from what I have found, a lot of people who say, oh I left my pc and I love my mac, never really had a good computer or knew what they were doing. A lot of people I work with go to BB or dell and get a 500 dollar pc, then they complain about things. Well macs are about 1500 and up and sure your going to get better hardware. it's not the os. Either way mac or pc they both are nice.
I'm wondering how apple is going to run now. I know jobs had to step back in to reign in the company but now with him gone I am really curious how it will continue.
I was working for a major Silicon Valley "think tank" in the early/mid 80s, when senior management said all consultants had to turn in proposals on floppy disks.....no more hand-written, or typed proposals, reports, etc. Some of the older guys nearly crapped their pants...... I went out and bought a MacPlus, maxed out the RAM to 4 megabytes, bought an additional external floppy drive, and later my first hard drive. Then I popped it open, tweaked and clipped a few things (tricks learned from a Mac User's Group) and hooked it up to a 19 inch black and white Mirror Technologies monitor.....this was like 1986!....I was running dual monitors......the PC world took YEARS before they could do anything remotely like that.
Needless to say, that was the first of many Macs and Apple products I have purchased over the years. Apple computers ran our small consulting firm for 10 years. Apple computers allowed the four of us to behave like a company with 40 employees....we did everything in-house, which was truly innovative in 1990. I had a IIci that was a productive machine for 8 of those years, starting out as the main work station, and ending up as a print server. That IIci had a stretch where it stayed on for almost 4 years!....and it never flinched.
I use PCs, I own a Thinkpad and an HP tower..........but for me.......it's not even close...........Apple's OS and Hardware is simply better...............my wife and kids won't even touch a PC.
The passing of Steve Jobs is truly a sad affair. I just hope Apple survives his loss, because the vultures will be circling trying to poach their best people.
I do believe, however, that we can celebrate the joy he has brought us, but must also realize that he himself was just a business man...
I like to think fondly of him as to what he's brought to the table (I'm currently typing this on my three week old Macbook Pro... But it's the first Mac I've bought ever!), but I will not exalt him on any other level... Rest in Peace good sir... You did well...
"Long ashes my friends."
"Long ashes my friends."
If we wanna talk other "heros" a few come to mind....though I have a difficult time saying full Hero(es), but------Jonas Salk, Lou Gehrig, and Hospice. To call any person I dont fully know a hero of mine seems a little fake, and a little dangerous since I am going on 2nd and 3rd party opinion....but to call a celebrity one based on business successes seems foolish. If Steve Jobs were "Ed Jones" no one would have known of his cancer or struggle or other things----so lets remember its only his commercialism and wealth that brings him to the forefront anyway. Liberal, vegan, buddhist----this makes him no more a hero to me than does inventing a neat phone. Life goes far beyond the obtaining and creation of "things".