Palin

Vulchor

Sorry folks....the resident tree hugging liberal of the board has come out in me again-----and also brought back that old wish that we could practice a little "sensible thinning" of the population that dumb's down the nation

Palin praised the memoir, which released Tuesday, as "Shocking; Refreshing; Honest; INSPIRING! Perfect," and said it "gives insight into how media can drive false narrative."----------This was the paragraph from cnn.com

Exactly what was so great by the way?.....A 21 yr old feeling she has enough life to have had a "memoir"?Sexy stories of your daughter, a weiner, and a 4 pack of Bartles and James?The best way to lie to your parents to get your way...even if they are gee golly great?

The family makes me sick to the point I am now rethinking my lunch plans. How...by the way...is Sarahs "special needs" son? I imagine wishing his mother wasnt so full of herself and in need of attention, and home alittle more to be a mother....no?

BTW this could have gone into the "things i hate thread", but it deserved a special place for me.

Mephisto

I'm with you. I don't know why this is news, or how it ever got published.

lilwing88

Vulch, a tree-hugging liberal you are not..... You seem to be a left leaning independent, if I had to pigeon hole you. And you are far too intelligent to take the bait on this one. So, don't do it, man. Don't let it bother you. Most of us have learned to just tune Palin out. And a lot of us find the hatred spewed by the left over her and her family comical, at best.

There are two guarantees you can bet all your money on:

1. Obama will be Pres again in 2012.

2. Palin will never be Pres.

The rest is all trivial bullsh**.....

fla-gypsy

If she is so irrelevant, why all the attention. I am a card carrying member of the vast right wing conspiracy and have never considered her anything but a novelty. I still don't know why so many people get their panties in such a wad over her on both sides. She isi ntelligent enough to get elected as th Governor of Alaska but dumb enough to want to be a presidential candidate. That's it in a nutshell.

stephen_hannibal

IDGAF, She's not a politician... so it befuddles me why she is always bought up in political discussion.

dowjr1

Yeah I don't know why people even care about her at this point. She is not in office or in the running for any office. As for the assertion BO will be president again in 2012...all I can say is I hope not. That guy is running us into a ditch and hasn't a clue how to stop it. Either that or thinks the ditch is somehow better than the road.

beatnic

Great minds discuss issues
Regular men speak of current events
Small minds talk about other people.
Why does she scare you Vulchor?

Amos_Umwhat

No, she's not a political figure herself, and I seriously doubt that she "scares" anyone, but I must say it's interesting to contemplate the contrasts that one can see in the far rights reaction to her story. Yesterday Sean Hannity went on and on and on and on about how "courageous" she was to tell her story, etc. etc., and I couldn't help but wonder what he might have said had it been, say, Chelsea Clinton telling the same story. It's easy to imagine that Sean's take would have been quite different, isn't it? One can almost hear the rant against the breakdown of American values caused by "the liberals", but here's brave Bristol, telling her story of enlightenment...yeah.
Of course, if I fall into such musings for long, I've fallen into the trap as well. Perhaps we should all just ignore this non-sense.

cabinetmaker

Amos Umwhat:

No, she's not a political figure herself, and I seriously doubt that she "scares" anyone, but I must say it's interesting to contemplate the contrasts that one can see in the far rights reaction to her story. Yesterday Sean Hannity went on and on and on and on about how "courageous" she was to tell her story, etc. etc., and I couldn't help but wonder what he might have said had it been, say, Chelsea Clinton telling the same story. It's easy to imagine that Sean's take would have been quite different, isn't it? One can almost hear the rant against the breakdown of American values caused by "the liberals", but here's brave Bristol, telling her story of enlightenment...yeah.
Of course, if I fall into such musings for long, I've fallen into the trap as well. Perhaps we should all just ignore this non-sense.

The liberal media would have never gone after Chelsea the way they went after Bristol, they left her alone. They only ever go after republican's kids. It's just a sad fact.

Besides, it's Bachman they'll soon be going after - you watch. Especially after Iowa, which I think she'll win. The left and media are frightened by strong conservative women, especially very intelligent and beautiful ones like Palin and Bachman. You watch, they'll try to destroy her - and remember they gave what's in the white house now a complete pass. No scrutiny, no questions about his questionable past affiliations; NADA.

cabinetmaker

lilwing88:

Vulch, a tree-hugging liberal you are not..... You seem to be a left leaning independent, if I had to pigeon hole you. And you are far too intelligent to take the bait on this one. So, don't do it, man. Don't let it bother you. Most of us have learned to just tune Palin out. And a lot of us find the hatred spewed by the left over her and her family comical, at best.

There are two guarantees you can bet all your money on:

1. Obama will be Pres again in 2012.

2. Palin will never be Pres.

The rest is all trivial bullsh**.....

I'll put a grand on #1 that you're wrong.

JonathanE

cabinetmaker:

lilwing88:

Vulch, a tree-hugging liberal you are not..... You seem to be a left leaning independent, if I had to pigeon hole you. And you are far too intelligent to take the bait on this one. So, don't do it, man. Don't let it bother you. Most of us have learned to just tune Palin out. And a lot of us find the hatred spewed by the left over her and her family comical, at best.

There are two guarantees you can bet all your money on:

1. Obama will be Pres again in 2012.

2. Palin will never be Pres.

The rest is all trivial bullsh**.....

I'll put a grand on #1 that you're wrong.

I'm putting a grand on it too!

JDE

JonathanE

cabinetmaker:

Besides, it's Bachman they'll soon be going after - you watch. Especially after Iowa, which I think she'll win. The left and media are frightened by strong conservative women, especially very intelligent and beautiful ones like Palin and Bachman. You watch, they'll try to destroy her - and remember they gave what's in the white house now a complete pass. No scrutiny, no questions about his questionable past affiliations; NADA.

While we're betting, I'm putting a grand on this being an accurate prediction too!

JDE

Vulchor

beatnic:

Great minds discuss issues
Regular men speak of current events
Small minds talk about other people.
Why does she scare you Vulchor?

Is that just a blatent insult to me Beat? Just wanna make sure your making the comment that I am somehow small minded and that I am "scared" of her--------If so, thanks for the nastiness and sho*ve it up your a$$. If this is a topic you intimate is for the small minded----they remain the big man and stay out of it, no?

As far as why I wrote this about her....because I think she is the type of uneducated, small minded, bible thumping, judgemental c*unt who is incapable of any critical thought or analysis, ability to compromise, admission of ignorance when its blantently obvious, or reason that alot of people are following today because they love guns, jesus, middle class white men, and marriage between a man and a woman-------Which to me, just spells fluff and editorial jargon in a time where we NEED great minds and great ideas which are feasible.

Vulchor

Also, Ill take both of those grand bets on Obama not getting re-elected.------------------------AND, before this gets derailed, this is about Palin..not Obama and my hatred for her has nothing to do with my feelings for him one way or the other.

Vulchor

cabinetmaker:

Amos Umwhat:

No, she's not a political figure herself, and I seriously doubt that she "scares" anyone, but I must say it's interesting to contemplate the contrasts that one can see in the far rights reaction to her story. Yesterday Sean Hannity went on and on and on and on about how "courageous" she was to tell her story, etc. etc., and I couldn't help but wonder what he might have said had it been, say, Chelsea Clinton telling the same story. It's easy to imagine that Sean's take would have been quite different, isn't it? One can almost hear the rant against the breakdown of American values caused by "the liberals", but here's brave Bristol, telling her story of enlightenment...yeah.
Of course, if I fall into such musings for long, I've fallen into the trap as well. Perhaps we should all just ignore this non-sense.

The liberal media would have never gone after Chelsea the way they went after Bristol, they left her alone. They only ever go after republican's kids. It's just a sad fact.

Besides, it's Bachman they'll soon be going after - you watch. Especially after Iowa, which I think she'll win. The left and media are frightened by strong conservative women, especially very intelligent and beautiful ones like Palin and Bachman. You watch, they'll try to destroy her - and remember they gave what's in the white house now a complete pass. No scrutiny, no questions about his questionable past affiliations; NADA.

Amos was talking about Sean Hannity----I hardly think your referral to the "liberal media" fits that resident block head. And the left if not afraid of them at all....their afraid of the educated masses who vote in droves based on religion, guns, and queers------all issues that really effect the ecomony right?

cabinetmaker

Vulchor:

cabinetmaker:

Amos Umwhat:

No, she's not a political figure herself, and I seriously doubt that she "scares" anyone, but I must say it's interesting to contemplate the contrasts that one can see in the far rights reaction to her story. Yesterday Sean Hannity went on and on and on and on about how "courageous" she was to tell her story, etc. etc., and I couldn't help but wonder what he might have said had it been, say, Chelsea Clinton telling the same story. It's easy to imagine that Sean's take would have been quite different, isn't it? One can almost hear the rant against the breakdown of American values caused by "the liberals", but here's brave Bristol, telling her story of enlightenment...yeah.
Of course, if I fall into such musings for long, I've fallen into the trap as well. Perhaps we should all just ignore this non-sense.

The liberal media would have never gone after Chelsea the way they went after Bristol, they left her alone. They only ever go after republican's kids. It's just a sad fact.

Besides, it's Bachman they'll soon be going after - you watch. Especially after Iowa, which I think she'll win. The left and media are frightened by strong conservative women, especially very intelligent and beautiful ones like Palin and Bachman. You watch, they'll try to destroy her - and remember they gave what's in the white house now a complete pass. No scrutiny, no questions about his questionable past affiliations; NADA.

Amos was talking about Sean Hannity----I hardly think your referral to the "liberal media" fits that resident block head. And the left if not afraid of them at all....their afraid of the uneducated masses who vote in droves based on religion, guns, and queers------all issues that really effect the ecomony right?

You just described the democratic base better than I could have.

wwhwang

I'm going to have to agree with Cabbie on this one. There have been hundreds of baseless accusations of corruption that sprang up against Palin after the leftist media started demonizing her for not agreeing with their political views (all of which were dismissed after investigation since she never used her position for personal gain). Yet if she were a leftist, then she and her kids would never have been harrassed, libeled, or slandered against by said media even if she did dodge taxes or start an illegal real estate racket like some of our senators.

I don't know if the leftists in the media and government are "afraid" of Palin, but she represents what they hate: a strong-willed female that's a mother and a wife that's not a leftist. Sure, she's not the sharpest tool in the shed, but she seems to represent more of the average female than Nancy Pelosi ever will. That and at least she can run her turf on a budget.

That's also why I'm sure Bachman will soon be villified by the left. They both seem like a threat to the left-leaning female vote. That's also why I'm sure that the leftist media will always demonize anyone that disagrees with them. Even if Jesus, Allah, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, or whoever the hell you admire comes down and runs for the GOP, rest assured that the powers of reality-bending given to the mainstream media will turn them all into Hitler.

beatnic

Vulchor:

beatnic:

Great minds discuss issues
Regular men speak of current events
Small minds talk about other people.
Why does she scare you Vulchor?

Is that just a blatent insult to me Beat? Just wanna make sure your making the comment that I am somehow small minded and that I am "scared" of her--------If so, thanks for the nastiness and sho*ve it up your a$$. If this is a topic you intimate is for the small minded----they remain the big man and stay out of it, no?

As far as why I wrote this about her....because I think she is the type of uneducated, small minded, bible thumping, judgemental c*unt who is incapable of any critical thought or analysis, ability to compromise, admission of ignorance when its blantently obvious, or reason that alot of people are following today because they love guns, jesus, middle class white men, and marriage between a man and a woman-------Which to me, just spells fluff and editorial jargon in a time where we NEED great minds and great ideas which are feasible.

Then just disagree with her policies. But, you opened this thread with a personal attack on someone you disagree with. Instead of arguing the issues, you stand on a soap box to insult, ridicule and debase. And then whine that I insulted you? Its pretty clear who has the thicker skin.

Vulchor

Beat, I attacked a person who is in the public eye----and STRIVES to put herself out there. Loves iving her opinion, talking about her family values, and trying her best to influence others. I do not know her persoanlly, nor do you, and I consider my rant open season on her as she is a commentator and wants the attention anyway. You attacked me indivdually, based on something I said about someone you have nothing to do with. Its not a question of thick skin, but until I attack you personally (which I would not do) I would also have the decency not to attack you based on your feelings of another.

It goes beoynd issues with her and to her personality and choices---at least for me. If you choose to attack me for my opinions or statements here, by god feel free----but In not going to sit here either and say thank you sir may I have another.

Vulchor

****------perhaps if she wasnt a family values, main street, soccer mom spouting religious broad who takes more time to get on TV than she cares about her daughter getting knocked up, her supreme court knowledge, or raising her retarded child I could respect her more. All I see however is an attention grabbing simpleton trying to get into a game she is very ill prepared and educated for.

I dont want an average female (as your stated) in politics or spouting off ideas----I want great females for this, in the same way I would a male. Also, your comparison of the "leftist" media turning people they disagree with into Hitler is off base and a really insensitive and uninformed way to compare ANYONE in our political scene in this country-----you know, considering the death camps and all.

wwhwang

Vulchor:

Also, your comparison of the "leftist" media turning people they disagree with into Hitler is off base and a really insensitive and uninformed way to compare ANYONE in our political scene in this country-----you know, considering the death camps and all.

Really? Because when Bush was in office, people were on the streets prancing around with Bush/Hitler costumes, "Bush is Hitler" signs, and countless posters with Bush styling a Hitler-stache commanding our military (which looks like the Third Reich in the posters) and CNN, MSNBC, and ABC were all too happy to report on it and call the Bush/Hitler image a "presidential lookalike". Yet one person made a "Why so socialist?" poster with Obama as The Joker, reporters call it treason, sedition, libel, and unpatriotic.

And though I disagree with Obama and Bush on many issues, I've never seen them order the massacre of 6 million Jews, homosexuals, and Catholics. Like I said before, I never called anyone Hitler. I'm just saying the leftists are very fond of comparing people that have different opinions to Hitler; which in my opinion is nothing more than baseless name-calling that villifies the victim needlessly and belittles the Holocaust.

Vulchor

I agree ****, those were wrong as well. The Joker stuff was funny with Barack and Ok with me---but the Hitler thing, be it with Bush or anyone else, is a real dis-service to history and those involved. Anyway---both sides have their guys and gals,----one to love and one to hate. Makes things interesting if nothing else...and good conversation between cigars;)

rwheelwright

I would bang Palin. I don't want to hear her talk but I would so bang her and her daughter. Even at the same time!

stephen_hannibal

rwheelwright:

I would bang Palin. I don't want to hear her talk but I would so bang her and her daughter. Even at the same time!

Wheels has the right idea...

Vulchor

Oooh, Now I didnt say anything about blasting her.....or railing her and the daughter at the same time. I may be an a-hole, but I am still a man.

Amos_Umwhat

I'd like to point out the the media at large provides plenty of ammo for both sides of this arguement. Someone thinks the so-called leftist media gives "liberals" a pass? I guess that's why we've never heard about the antics of Blagojevich, John Edwards, Hillary Clinton's memory gaffe (Bosnian landing, no bullets), Chelsea Clintons education, marriage, and never any antics from the Kennedy brood. Oh, and since the Republicans are all so shy about pointing to personal lives, they'd never spend 24 million tax dollars on investigation of a presidential affair, after all the statistics show that only around 75% of married American men have cheated on their wives.

On the other side, no ones ever heard Bill O'Reilly saying that liberal supporters like George Soros, (a victim of the ****-s) may have actually been in cahoots with the Naz-is, even though he was barely an adolescent when they were rubbing out his family. Nor have the Tea Partiers ever painted a Hitler mustache on Obamas face and plastered it on signs during demonstrations.

Or, did all these things really happen. Perhaps what people tend to be victims of is selective memory. When the media is lambasting and lampooning someone we don't like, or disagree with, it's a knee-slapping good time. When our guy is the one getting kicked around, our feelings are hurt and we're pissed off. So, when the question comes up "who does the media have a bias against?", well, Our Guy , of course!

As for me, I get tired of it and wish people would get back to the issues. When G. Bush went to Texas for a vacation, I'll bet he still spent 8 hours a day on affairs of state. When Obama plays golf and "something" else is going on, well, the guy needs a break like everyone else.

I do think there is some bias in the media, and often against conservatives. For instance, where the heck is Gary Johnson? Frozen out. Why? Because both sides are scared to death. Here's a guy who not only said he'd lower taxes, he DID it. He not only promised to veto pork projects, he holds the all-time record! No, nobody wants to touch that, on either side. An honest politician who believes in the ideals he preaches? Scary!! Democrat/Republican/liberal/conservative, all sides of the same box. Ron Paul made too much noise to ignore, but it's OK, he's got a reedy voice and sounds like your average Texan and lacks "stage-presence", so we can let him in because he's already marginalized. I'd like to see someone from "outside the box" who could open up the damm box and clean it out.

Michelle Bachman is a safe candidate, because she stirs up controversy. People can hate her, people can find things on her to claim she is a hater herself, and as long as those who are the Status Quo can keep the hate train going, they can keep on robbing the train. We've got to get past the name-calling and side taking and start thinking about the marvelous legacy of the fight for freedom that has been going on since America first declared independence from tyranny and laid out a plan of action, ie The Constitution.

Oh, crap, another Amos rant. Well, that's how I feel, let's all join hands and sing ****-ba-ya.

Vulchor

:::::::my looorrrds ****-by-ya:::::::Nice post Amos btw.

laker1963

Vulchor:

:::::::my looorrrds ****-by-ya:::::::Nice post Amos btw.

+! Very well said Amos. Very well said.

I'll sing Baratone.

fla-gypsy

I guess there is just not enough wrong with the current government that we have to go after psuedo-politico's, oh wait the current govt is a trainwreck, but lets ignore that right now.

Amos_Umwhat

fla-gypsy:

I guess there is just not enough wrong with the current government that we have to go after psuedo-politico's, oh wait the current govt is a trainwreck, but lets ignore that right now.

You're right. The train was de-railed, wrecked and looted just prior to the last President leaving office. Let's ignore the pseudo-politics and fix the train.

Amos_Umwhat

Amos Umwhat:

fla-gypsy:

I guess there is just not enough wrong with the current government that we have to go after psuedo-politico's, oh wait the current govt is a trainwreck, but lets ignore that right now.

You're right. The train was de-railed, wrecked and looted just prior to the last President leaving office. Let's ignore the pseudo-politics and fix the train.

Yikes! Now that I've had some coffee I realize that this remark will be misconstrued as an attack on Bush, which is not what I meant it to be at all. Merely providing a time-line that is easily identifiable. Just to be clear, the de-railment, in my opinion, was due to a combination of factors for which the Democrats and Republicans were both responsible. Like this:

The lassaiz-faire economic policies of the last 25 years or so, championed primarily, but not solely, by the Republicans.

The unfettered greed of Wall St. speculators, unfettered by the policies mentioned above.

Not least of all the delusional policies of redistribution of wealth championed almost solely by the Democrats.

Prolonged war at a time when these above mentioned factors were weakening our economic base, which I still don't really blame Bush for, except the lack of an acceptable exit strategy. (My exit strategy? Kick their ass, leave.)

Sorry to hijack the thread. Back to the original question, I don't understand the fascination, but I hope Ms. Palin makes plenty of $ during what I expect will be a brief period of fame. If everyone has had their nose this deep up her business, I feel she should be well compensated for the intrusion.