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  • Itsfine
    Itsfine Posts: 20,666 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rdp77 said:
    @Itsfine , welcome to the forum. This would be a good place to introduce yourself to the group.

    No I'm good bro thanks though.

    I am the Troll Jesus. Follow me, my children, or clutch your pearls tightly.

    @ScotchnSmoke still sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones. 
  • Itsfine
    Itsfine Posts: 20,666 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rdp77 said:

    @ShawnOL said:
    @ScotchnSmoke ?

    Or the artist formerly known as VegasFrank

    Nope not me buddy. I have enough handles as it is

    I am the Troll Jesus. Follow me, my children, or clutch your pearls tightly.

    @ScotchnSmoke still sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones. 
  • Itsfine
    Itsfine Posts: 20,666 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ross_G89 said:
    Rdp77: I found this information through multiple sites, online videos, and in house sources. The 5 packs from the manufacturer is a great way for them to move product because people are more often going to buy cheaper options, especially if they can get multiple kinds. Not saying all online company’s sell the seconds or the older stock, but a majority of them do. They may not even know they are selling the seconds, especially since they are packaged that way from the manufacturer. But it wouldn’t make sense if I could buy a pack of 20 for $100 when the box on the same site costs over $300 for 20. It’s just business. Not to mention they also do this for promotional reasons, trying to get people to try their brand.

    Sorry Ross. I know you're a new guy and welcome, but you're dead wrong here.

    You listen to too much cigar authority for your own good hahaha. David garofalo is famous for just saying whatever the hell he wants, truth be damned, in order to protect his own interests. He's a big wig and a big shot and all of the cigar associations and he's got one of the largest shops on the planet.

    Let me ask you a few questions to get the brain juices flowing. Why would a manufacturer of a 20 or 50 or $100 cigar put a 20 or $50 or $100 band on a lesser cigar and steak their reputation on something that wasn't made as well or with different tobaccos or with less skilled bunchers and rollers? Really think about this for a second bro. If Toyota puts a million tundras out at $75,000 each, and they have this great reputation, why would they offer the same tundra somewhere else for $45,000, but build it shittttier? When that crappy build breaks down, it hurts the tundra brand and then they can't get $75,000 for the good ones. It literally makes no sense. The only thing the manufacturers are doing are killing their own brand names and reputations. That's why it just isn't done the way David garofalo and Abe and the other guys who are afraid of the online retailers say that it's done.

    Why would a giant online store like cigars and international or famous or JR, all of whom have brick and mortars by the way, stake their reputation and store all of their their millions of cigars in a non-humidified Warehouse?

    CI and cigar.com and famous and all the rest have warehouses that are humidified. I don't know that they've lost their Elegance, LOL, as you said above, as much as they lost their style in presentation. Grabbing something out of a mahogany box in a store with leather chairs has a different presentation effect then a five pack with cellophane and a green cardboard back.

    But hey man you do you. If what makes it taste good is blowing that 40 bucks on it, then have at it brother.

    I will bet you my next paycheck that The Trinidad espiritu that you get from the b&M for 18 bucks is the exact tobacco rolled in the exact way with the exact rollers at the exact factory as the one Edward or Rusty get from cigar bed for $4 a stick.

    I am the Troll Jesus. Follow me, my children, or clutch your pearls tightly.

    @ScotchnSmoke still sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones. 
  • Ross_G89
    Ross_G89 Posts: 115 ✭✭✭✭

    @Itsfine said:

    @Ross_G89 said:
    Rdp77: I found this information through multiple sites, online videos, and in house sources. The 5 packs from the manufacturer is a great way for them to move product because people are more often going to buy cheaper options, especially if they can get multiple kinds. Not saying all online company’s sell the seconds or the older stock, but a majority of them do. They may not even know they are selling the seconds, especially since they are packaged that way from the manufacturer. But it wouldn’t make sense if I could buy a pack of 20 for $100 when the box on the same site costs over $300 for 20. It’s just business. Not to mention they also do this for promotional reasons, trying to get people to try their brand.

    Sorry Ross. I know you're a new guy and welcome, but you're dead wrong here.

    You listen to too much cigar authority for your own good hahaha. David garofalo is famous for just saying whatever the hell he wants, truth be damned, in order to protect his own interests. He's a big wig and a big shot and all of the cigar associations and he's got one of the largest shops on the planet.

    Let me ask you a few questions to get the brain juices flowing. Why would a manufacturer of a 20 or 50 or $100 cigar put a 20 or $50 or $100 band on a lesser cigar and steak their reputation on something that wasn't made as well or with different tobaccos or with less skilled bunchers and rollers? Really think about this for a second bro. If Toyota puts a million tundras out at $75,000 each, and they have this great reputation, why would they offer the same tundra somewhere else for $45,000, but build it shittttier? When that crappy build breaks down, it hurts the tundra brand and then they can't get $75,000 for the good ones. It literally makes no sense. The only thing the manufacturers are doing are killing their own brand names and reputations. That's why it just isn't done the way David garofalo and Abe and the other guys who are afraid of the online retailers say that it's done.

    Why would a giant online store like cigars and international or famous or JR, all of whom have brick and mortars by the way, stake their reputation and store all of their their millions of cigars in a non-humidified Warehouse?

    CI and cigar.com and famous and all the rest have warehouses that are humidified. I don't know that they've lost their Elegance, LOL, as you said above, as much as they lost their style in presentation. Grabbing something out of a mahogany box in a store with leather chairs has a different presentation effect then a five pack with cellophane and a green cardboard back.

    But hey man you do you. If what makes it taste good is blowing that 40 bucks on it, then have at it brother.

    I will bet you my next paycheck that The Trinidad espiritu that you get from the b&M for 18 bucks is the exact tobacco rolled in the exact way with the exact rollers at the exact factory as the one Edward or Rusty get from cigar bed for $4 a stick.

    So I didn’t say that they’re using different tobacco‘s. The tobacco blends that are inside the cigars that are boxed is the same tobacco that you find in the five packs. All I’m saying is they didn’t pass the inspection to get put into a box. And it’s not necessarily damaging their reputation, if you put a low enough price on anything, someone will buy it. The flavor is still the same. I don’t buy my boxes at b&m, I get them online. What they are doing is actually a marketing strategy, they still make money off of them and that’s all they care about. The number one reason for being a business is profit. That’s it. I don’t think manufacturers take their seconds or messed up Cigars and dispose of them, there is still money to be made. I’m talking from my personal experience. I don’t know if other brands that are more on the budget side just sell their cigars for a cheap five pack, I’m just telling you what I’ve experienced and what I’ve read in multiple articles.

  • Itsfine
    Itsfine Posts: 20,666 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ross_G89 said:

    @Itsfine said:

    @Ross_G89 said:
    Rdp77: I found this information through multiple sites, online videos, and in house sources. The 5 packs from the manufacturer is a great way for them to move product because people are more often going to buy cheaper options, especially if they can get multiple kinds. Not saying all online company’s sell the seconds or the older stock, but a majority of them do. They may not even know they are selling the seconds, especially since they are packaged that way from the manufacturer. But it wouldn’t make sense if I could buy a pack of 20 for $100 when the box on the same site costs over $300 for 20. It’s just business. Not to mention they also do this for promotional reasons, trying to get people to try their brand.

    Sorry Ross. I know you're a new guy and welcome, but you're dead wrong here.

    You listen to too much cigar authority for your own good hahaha. David garofalo is famous for just saying whatever the hell he wants, truth be damned, in order to protect his own interests. He's a big wig and a big shot and all of the cigar associations and he's got one of the largest shops on the planet.

    Let me ask you a few questions to get the brain juices flowing. Why would a manufacturer of a 20 or 50 or $100 cigar put a 20 or $50 or $100 band on a lesser cigar and steak their reputation on something that wasn't made as well or with different tobaccos or with less skilled bunchers and rollers? Really think about this for a second bro. If Toyota puts a million tundras out at $75,000 each, and they have this great reputation, why would they offer the same tundra somewhere else for $45,000, but build it shittttier? When that crappy build breaks down, it hurts the tundra brand and then they can't get $75,000 for the good ones. It literally makes no sense. The only thing the manufacturers are doing are killing their own brand names and reputations. That's why it just isn't done the way David garofalo and Abe and the other guys who are afraid of the online retailers say that it's done.

    Why would a giant online store like cigars and international or famous or JR, all of whom have brick and mortars by the way, stake their reputation and store all of their their millions of cigars in a non-humidified Warehouse?

    CI and cigar.com and famous and all the rest have warehouses that are humidified. I don't know that they've lost their Elegance, LOL, as you said above, as much as they lost their style in presentation. Grabbing something out of a mahogany box in a store with leather chairs has a different presentation effect then a five pack with cellophane and a green cardboard back.

    But hey man you do you. If what makes it taste good is blowing that 40 bucks on it, then have at it brother.

    I will bet you my next paycheck that The Trinidad espiritu that you get from the b&M for 18 bucks is the exact tobacco rolled in the exact way with the exact rollers at the exact factory as the one Edward or Rusty get from cigar bed for $4 a stick.

    So I didn’t say that they’re using different tobacco‘s. The tobacco blends that are inside the cigars that are boxed is the same tobacco that you find in the five packs. All I’m saying is they didn’t pass the inspection to get put into a box. And it’s not necessarily damaging their reputation, if you put a low enough price on anything, someone will buy it. The flavor is still the same. I don’t buy my boxes at b&m, I get them online. What they are doing is actually a marketing strategy, they still make money off of them and that’s all they care about. The number one reason for being a business is profit. That’s it. I don’t think manufacturers take their seconds or messed up Cigars and dispose of them, there is still money to be made. I’m talking from my personal experience. I don’t know if other brands that are more on the budget side just sell their cigars for a cheap five pack, I’m just telling you what I’ve experienced and what I’ve read in multiple articles.

    Lol Okie dokie then. I'll stick to my low rent five packs hahaha

    I am the Troll Jesus. Follow me, my children, or clutch your pearls tightly.

    @ScotchnSmoke still sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones. 
  • WolfHunter909_
    WolfHunter909_ Posts: 130 ✭✭✭

    @xHTx said:

    I too am right outside Hershey, 5 minutes from the Medical Center. For a B&M store with BYOB policy, The Tobacco Company in Swatara Square shopping center is nice It has a very well-stocked humidor. For lounges with humidors and a liquor license, Guillotine in Hummelstown is a nice, but quite small place, and I just found Oscars Cigar Lounge on 422 in Palmyra, which has the limited PA only liquor license. The humidors are not extensive. Oscars bill themselves as cigar and sports lounge, with multiple TVs, and supposedly a golf simulator. If you get around a little, Aroma Cigar Loft in Lititz is a nice BYOB lounge, located just above Appalachian Brew Pub, for food and drinks to carry upstairs.

    I'm the same direction but a little bit further.Lol I just made my first trip to The Tobacco Company and the prices where not bad and have a lot of everything.. The Guillotine looks nice but have never been but will check it out.. I have passed Oscars Cigar lounge many times and always wanted to check it out.. I didn't know Aroma Cigar loft was there and will definitely check it out.. When I see you, the next cigar is on me. Thanks

    @TRayB @WolfHunter909_

    I hope both of you realize you’re about a 50 min drive away from Cigars International superstore and lounge in Hamburg. They have an endless variety of cigars for low prices.

    Thank you very much I didn't know that was there and make several trips to Cabela's.. So now I will have to make a special trip there just to check it out..

  • Yakster
    Yakster Posts: 31,790 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome @faod1223 Sean.

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  • faod1223
    faod1223 Posts: 5 ✭

    @Rdp77 said:

    @faod1223 said:
    Whats up everyone. I'm Sean and have been smoking cigars on and off for the past 5 years. Live in Northern Nevada. Look forward to engaging with yall, but hopefully not as hostile as the threads above lol.

    lol, welcome aboard. We tend to give what we get. Just read the room a little. Sarcasm is prevalent…but comradery prevails. Thick skin is a must, but we can take as much as we give. A lot of great information and people here.

    Well being think skin'd was almost a prerequesit for my job so thats not an issue. I did some reading before posting and there is a lot of good info, along with a lot of banter that is comical to read. thanks for the reply.

  • OmgFrigginMike
    OmgFrigginMike Posts: 782 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hey what's goin on @faod1223 welcome to the forum. You ever heard of new world cigars? You should try a fiver.

  • memento_mori
    memento_mori Posts: 5,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rdp77 said:
    @memento_mori see what that guy just did? 👆🏻
    This is where you introduce yourself as the FNG

    🖕🏻😘

    Regarding a cigar, the pipe and the open road, go forward without hurry, learn the essence of things through frequent experiences, taking advantage of every occasion.

  • faod1223
    faod1223 Posts: 5 ✭

    @OmgFrigginMike said:
    Hey what's goin on @faod1223 welcome to the forum. You ever heard of new world cigars? You should try a fiver.

    I have heard of new world cigars, however i have not done much research into them. Any particular one that you suggest?

  • faod1223
    faod1223 Posts: 5 ✭

    @Yakster said:
    Welcome @faod1223 Sean.

    thank you.

  • OmgFrigginMike
    OmgFrigginMike Posts: 782 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13

    @faod1223 said:

    @OmgFrigginMike said:
    Hey what's goin on @faod1223 welcome to the forum. You ever heard of new world cigars? You should try a fiver.

    I have heard of new world cigars, however i have not done much research into them. Any particular one that you suggest?

    They have been a recentish topic here in the threads, as you brows through the old threads and find little(or a lot) tid-bits of information that have been shared you may just find one that calls your name. If you are interested further my friends @Ross_G89 and @vision could probably point you in the right direction... also W knows everything about everything if you just need a straight forward answer. :D

    Really though if you stick around and can take and give a jab or two you'll find that the people that make it great have a vast knowledge about cigars, tobacco, coffee, gardens, life, etc. that you'll come to love.

  • faod1223
    faod1223 Posts: 5 ✭

    @OmgFrigginMike said:

    @faod1223 said:

    @OmgFrigginMike said:
    Hey what's goin on @faod1223 welcome to the forum. You ever heard of new world cigars? You should try a fiver.

    I have heard of new world cigars, however i have not done much research into them. Any particular one that you suggest?

    They have been a recentish topic here in the threads, as you brows through the old threads and find little(or a lot) tid-bits of information that have been shared you may just find one that calls your name. If you are interested further my friends @Ross_G89 and @vision could probably point you in the right direction... also W knows everything about everything if you just need a straight forward answer. :D

    Really though if you stick around and can take and give a jab or two you'll find that the people that make it great have a vast knowledge about cigars, tobacco, coffee, gardens, life, etc. that you'll come to love.

    This W guy seems like an industry plant, here to cause confusion and stir **** up. You sure about him?
    Also ill do some weeding through to find what you are talking about. I appreciate the warm welcome.

  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,099 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @memento_mori maybe you can come in, hit the ground running and tell me what an experience smoking Padron nightly is like.

  • memento_mori
    memento_mori Posts: 5,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vision said:
    @memento_mori maybe you can come in, hit the ground running and tell me what an experience smoking Padron nightly is like.

    @Vision Oh I can....wait...let me type that into chatgpt to get you an answer. Also, reading through your previous post engagements, it's clear you know nothing about the esteemed leaf. LMFAO
    Luv ya buddy!!

    Regarding a cigar, the pipe and the open road, go forward without hurry, learn the essence of things through frequent experiences, taking advantage of every occasion.

  • Yakster
    Yakster Posts: 31,790 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's clear that @Vision needs to be schooled on maduro leaf. :D

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  • Olekingcole
    Olekingcole Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @memento_mori said:
    Hey everyone my name is George or W for short. I know more about cigars than all of you put together. I thought I could learn something here. Nothing to see, just a bunch of goat palate dog rocket smokers here. Carry on.

    Do you have some really expensive smokes you're trying to sell?

    I don't have problems, just more work to do.

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