I'm over the ligero bombs.
ndhaon91
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Just smoked one of the SWAG torpedos from this months COTMC. Not bad, but there's just no subtlety or complexity to these all ligero smokes.
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I smoke for the flavor not for the feeling.
all that power is like a TV on a honeymoon: unnecessary
There are a TON of Ligero sticks out there that are flavor bombs. Not just strong, but well balanced and strong both in body and flavor.
A lot sticks have some Ligero in them, mostly where the flavor comes from in some cases.
There are a TON of Ligero based sticks that I love, it isn't about the strength, it's about the taste. Why would anyone want to smoke a cigar if they knew they would end up with hiccups and puking all over the place? Some cigars just aren't for some people, some like them full bodied some like them mild. Some like tons of flavor that hits you between the eye's and some like what they refer to as more complex or ever changing flavors that they like to chase around while the stick burns, and then they can try to discern the flavors. WHATEVER. I like mostly very full bodied flavor bombs, but I do enjoy a medium or even mild stick for a change once in a while. I don't feel the need to talk down a whole group of cigars in order to feel good about my choices.
I smoke for the flavor as well, and I never feel any different after a stick then I do before... well except for that little bit of sadness that the experience has to end.
however, given what is in style right now (very strong cigars) it is way easier for someone who likes those to find quality ones where as it is a bit more difficult to find a quality mild to medium stick that is high quality for a reasonable price. that is why i am over them. i do like full bodied cigars from time to time
as far as them being a waste of time comment, i agreed with it because if they are all ONLY about power and not flavor then they are a waste of time. the camacho triple maduro is very full and i love it. that is never a waste of time.
What you said was ... agreed. i can do them now and again but i dont want a cigar i have to fight. i wanna relax with it. all that power is like a TV on a honeymoon: unnecessary
As you mentioned yourself there are some KILLER sticks out there that are largely Ligero and some of these happen to be the most popular sticks on the market.
I disagree that it is a fad, that will disappear. The growers have started to adjust the way they grow crops to get bigger crops from the same piece of land. (more Ligero)
They have also started priming the plants differently then they used to and are removing lower leaves early and leaving more upper leaves on the plants longer. (more Ligero). You don't change the way an industry has historically worked just for a passing fad.
Ligero cigars are here to stay, and there are many of us who love them and find them very enjoyable. I just don't want to see a bunch a new or newer BOTL miss out on a whole range of sticks based on an opinion or comment that I felt was being a little harsh to some sticks that I personally love.
I smoked cigars through the 80's and quit in the early 90's after my divorce, shen I couldn't afford the smokes I liked anymore. Now I can again. Back then, I would complain because everyone smoked real mild cigars (Macanudos, Royal Jamacans, etc.) and very few were making higher end full flavored full bodied cigars. Now the opposite's the problem.
My time has come...
On the other hand, if as a culture we decide to pendulum swing back to the medium to mild side, then industry will accommodate us. Whatever makes them the most money is the largest determining factor in what and how they produce tobacco. And what makes us happy is what makes them money! (I'm intentionally neglecting how marketing influences the cigar culture because I think it has a secondary, lesser affect.)