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This weeks one day deal...

Hey, is anybody else as confused with this weeks one day deal?
When I saw the page saying it was up to 80% off for a bundle of 20 I thought yes!
When I went to the regular page to determine the sizes of the sticks offered, I see the regular price is %59.95 for the Toro's which is what I decided on.
So how is $20 from $59.95 down to $39.95 equal 80% ??
Maybe Alex or someone could come onto the forums and straighten this out. I will still likely be ordering these but they are stating they are worth $200 per bundle when they sell them for $59.95 a bundle ???

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  • rwheelwrightrwheelwright Posts: 3,296
    My guess is that they are saying MSRP is $200 and they normally knock it down. It's marketing man. Create the allusion that something is more than you can sell it for less but closer to what you would normally sell it for anyways.

    Take a look at Circuit city. They are saying that products are this percentage off. They raised the prices of their product and then knocked off a percentage from the raised price and it looks like you are getting a deal but in reality you are paying a little less or the same as it was priced before.
  • ron82ron82 Posts: 2
    The 80% off refers to the "suggested retail" price of $200.  I agree that it is somewhat misleading, since no one is selling those cigars at that price.  Still, 20 bucks off is nothing to scoff at.
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    Hey lake I just popped my head over to the deal. It says 80% off of suggested MSRP misleading but probably true.
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    ron82:
    The 80% off refers to the "suggested retail" price of $200.  I agree that it is somewhat misleading, since no one is selling those cigars at that price.  Still, 20 bucks off is nothing to scoff at.
    Jinx.
  • dutyjedutyje Posts: 2,263
    rwheelwright:
    My guess is that they are saying MSRP is $200 and they normally knock it down. It's marketing man. Create the allusion that something is more than you can sell it for less but closer to what you would normally sell it for anyways.
    One could almost build an entire brand this way... maybe give it some fancy-looking logos and bands, and a cool name loaded with mystique.. like "Gurkha" or something. The really cool part is that you can then ship sticks to B&M's and charge people close to MSRP for the cigars, and laugh all the way to the bank every time you do.
  • laker1963laker1963 Posts: 5,046
    Well I don't know guys. Yes I understand marketing. I have also seen a little "license" being taken when advertizing the one day specials here. However this is the farthest I have ever seen it taken.

    If what you guys are saying is true then that's too bad. Sort of reminds me of these commercials where everything is $19.95 or $29.95. As soon as something like that comes on the TV I just zone out as I know it will just be another piece of $19.99 or $29.99 $hit !
    That's what this kind of advertizing does. I hope it isn't going to be a trend here, I have purchased several one day specials in the past. I would hate to have to start to ignore them like those annoying commercials. :(
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    dutyje:
    rwheelwright:
    My guess is that they are saying MSRP is $200 and they normally knock it down. It's marketing man. Create the allusion that something is more than you can sell it for less but closer to what you would normally sell it for anyways.
    One could almost build an entire brand this way... maybe give it some fancy-looking logos and bands, and a cool name loaded with mystique.. like "Gurkha" or something. The really cool part is that you can then ship sticks to B&M's and charge people close to MSRP for the cigars, and laugh all the way to the bank every time you do.
    You know whats even more sad. Most B&Ms refuse to carry Gurkhas bc of how cheap they can be had online. I've been told by two different retailers that they can't even buy them from Gurkha at the price that they are sold for regularly online. Let alone the blowout deals that are offered by them.
  • dutyjedutyje Posts: 2,263
    so are you saying it's $19.95 or $19.99? $29.95 or $29.99? I'm confused ;)

    Is that Canadian or American dollars?
  • dutyjedutyje Posts: 2,263
    madurofan:
    dutyje:
    rwheelwright:
    My guess is that they are saying MSRP is $200 and they normally knock it down. It's marketing man. Create the allusion that something is more than you can sell it for less but closer to what you would normally sell it for anyways.
    One could almost build an entire brand this way... maybe give it some fancy-looking logos and bands, and a cool name loaded with mystique.. like "Gurkha" or something. The really cool part is that you can then ship sticks to B&M's and charge people close to MSRP for the cigars, and laugh all the way to the bank every time you do.
    You know whats even more sad. Most B&Ms refuse to carry Gurkhas bc of how cheap they can be had online. I've been told by two different retailers that they can't even buy them from Gurkha at the price that they are sold for regularly online. Let alone the blowout deals that are offered by them.
    You need to stock a metric crapton of Gurkhas in order to get them that cheap. My local shop stocks loads of Gurkhas, and pushes them pretty heavily. The normal crowd at that shop has the coin to regularly drop on a box of MSRP Gurkhas and never think twice.
  • rwheelwrightrwheelwright Posts: 3,296
    madurofan:
    dutyje:
    rwheelwright:
    My guess is that they are saying MSRP is $200 and they normally knock it down. It's marketing man. Create the allusion that something is more than you can sell it for less but closer to what you would normally sell it for anyways.
    One could almost build an entire brand this way... maybe give it some fancy-looking logos and bands, and a cool name loaded with mystique.. like "Gurkha" or something. The really cool part is that you can then ship sticks to B&M's and charge people close to MSRP for the cigars, and laugh all the way to the bank every time you do.
    You know whats even more sad. Most B&Ms refuse to carry Gurkhas bc of how cheap they can be had online. I've been told by two different retailers that they can't even buy them from Gurkha at the price that they are sold for regularly online. Let alone the blowout deals that are offered by them.
    The "BIG" local B&M that is also an online competitor started carrying Gurkhas about two years ago but only the regents. They have recently started carrying others like the Gran Reserve (Non Congac versions), Marquezas, G3s and a few other ones. The other B&M that is much smaller told me that he doesn't carry Gurkha. When I asked why, he said that the Gurkha salesman came around to a bunch of local places really talking up the cigars but when it was time to place an order all the online places got them and wouldn't or couldn't sell to the local B&Ms. That is at least what happened in northern Jersey.
  • laker1963laker1963 Posts: 5,046
    dutyje:
    so are you saying it's $19.95 or $19.99? $29.95 or $29.99? I'm confused ;)

    Is that Canadian or American dollars?


    OH SHUT THE HELL UP DUTY!!!
  • laker1963laker1963 Posts: 5,046
    madurofan:
    Hey lake I just popped my head over to the deal. It says 80% off of suggested MSRP misleading but probably true.

    If this was correct then that would mean C.Com is normally selling these sticks at almost 75% off the MSRP. I would think that they would advertize this fact as much as possible. Also if you were selling them at almost 70% off the MSRP regularly what would intice you to sell them off 80% as a one day deal?
    It would make more sense to repeatedly tell the guys here that these sticks can be had for almost 70% off the MSRP everyday. At least to me it does.
  • dutyjedutyje Posts: 2,263
    laker1963:
    dutyje:
    so are you saying it's $19.95 or $19.99? $29.95 or $29.99? I'm confused ;)

    Is that Canadian or American dollars?


    OH SHUT THE HELL UP DUTY!!!
    LMAO! Sorry, eh?
  • laker1963laker1963 Posts: 5,046
    dutyje:
    laker1963:
    dutyje:
    so are you saying it's $19.95 or $19.99? $29.95 or $29.99? I'm confused ;)

    Is that Canadian or American dollars?


    OH SHUT THE HELL UP DUTY!!!
    LMAO! Sorry, eh?

    I was actually talking in Canadian Tire money. Which sometimes can be exchanged for more then the Canadian $$. :)
  • rwheelwrightrwheelwright Posts: 3,296
    laker1963:
    madurofan:
    Hey lake I just popped my head over to the deal. It says 80% off of suggested MSRP misleading but probably true.

    If this was correct then that would mean C.Com is normally selling these sticks at almost 75% off the MSRP. I would think that they would advertize this fact as much as possible. Also if you were selling them at almost 70% off the MSRP regularly what would intice you to sell them off 80% as a one day deal.
    It would make more sense to repeadtedly tell the guys here that these sticks can be had for almost 70% off the MSRP everyday. At least to me it does.
    Now look at the other end. Anejos, OpusX, etc... are marked up a lot. Sometimes over 100%. I guess if you are saying that something is less than MSRP you will have to state that something is more than MSRP. Is it better to say nothing at all? $30 - $40 for Opus X when I got a few at the store for $15 - $20.
  • dutyjedutyje Posts: 2,263
    laker1963:
    dutyje:
    laker1963:
    dutyje:
    so are you saying it's $19.95 or $19.99? $29.95 or $29.99? I'm confused ;)

    Is that Canadian or American dollars?


    OH SHUT THE HELL UP DUTY!!!
    LMAO! Sorry, eh?

    I was actually talking in Canadian Tire money. Which sometimes can be exchanged for more then the Canadian $$. :)
    I've heard of this Canadian Tire... but I have never been to one.
  • laker1963laker1963 Posts: 5,046
    rwheelwright:
    laker1963:
    madurofan:
    Hey lake I just popped my head over to the deal. It says 80% off of suggested MSRP misleading but probably true.

    If this was correct then that would mean C.Com is normally selling these sticks at almost 75% off the MSRP. I would think that they would advertize this fact as much as possible. Also if you were selling them at almost 70% off the MSRP regularly what would intice you to sell them off 80% as a one day deal.
    It would make more sense to repeadtedly tell the guys here that these sticks can be had for almost 70% off the MSRP everyday. At least to me it does.
    Now look at the other end. Anejos, OpusX, etc... are marked up a lot. Sometimes over 100%. I guess if you are saying that something is less than MSRP you will have to state that something is more than MSRP. Is it better to say nothing at all? $30 - $40 for Opus X when I got a few at the store for $15 - $20.

    Well I suppose.
    I know that if I were offering any stick at 75% off MSRP as an everyday price I would be letting EVERYBODY know about it. It is still a good deal, just seems like it was cheapened a little because of the numbers, you know?
  • laker1963laker1963 Posts: 5,046
    dutyje:
    laker1963:
    dutyje:
    laker1963:
    dutyje:
    so are you saying it's $19.95 or $19.99? $29.95 or $29.99? I'm confused ;)

    Is that Canadian or American dollars?


    OH SHUT THE HELL UP DUTY!!!
    LMAO! Sorry, eh?

    I was actually talking in Canadian Tire money. Which sometimes can be exchanged for more then the Canadian $$. :)
    I've heard of this Canadian Tire... but I have never been to one.

    OHHHH Duty.... picture a HUGE store filled with car parts, sports equipment, camping stocks, you name it. If it has anything to do with outdoors, cars or just things that make a guy happy you will find it a Canadian Tire.
    They send out weekly flyers which in my house is referred to as "my bible".
    I mean you can get a "woody" just walking thru the doors, and seeing all that stuff. FanFreakinTastic !!!!
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    laker1963:
    It is still a good deal, just seems like it was cheapened a little because of the numbers, you know?
    I agree and this is the kind of stuff that IMO always distinguished Ccom from all the other online Deal of the Century kind of places. They are classy and don't try to mislead. This was a little misleading and was very un-Ccom like.
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    laker1963:
    OHHHH Duty
    Did anyone else picture laker as Jessica Rabbit when reading this? Ohh Roger ...

    Nobody? Oh well ...

    Be careful duty he may be trying to woo you and batting his eyes while saying this.
  • laker1963laker1963 Posts: 5,046
    madurofan:
    laker1963:
    OHHHH Duty
    Did anyone else picture laker as Jessica Rabbit when reading this? Ohh Roger ...

    Nobody? Oh well ...

    Be careful duty he may be trying to woo you and batting his eyes while saying this.

    So OK, now it's your turn... SHUT THE ^UCK UP MADDY. LMAAAO
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    Like duty said, sorry, eh?
  • rwheelwrightrwheelwright Posts: 3,296
    Now, to the point I if I didn't already have a *** load already and no place to put them I would probably get the deal anyways. Also, I am overspent on my cigar budget for the month.
  • zoom6zoomzoom6zoom Posts: 1,214
    madurofan:
    Like duty said, sorry, eh?
    Is that another Canadian jab.... eh?
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    zoom6zoom:
    madurofan:
    Like duty said, sorry, eh?
    Is that another Canadian jab.... eh?
    Never.
  • cheymancheyman Posts: 157
    rwheelwright:
    Now, to the point I if I didn't already have a *** load already and no place to put them I would probably get the deal anyways. Also, I am overspent on my cigar budget for the month.
    I think I've over spent my cigar budget for the next 3 months...last month!!
    Oh man...my wife hides her anger well!
  • Bad AndyBad Andy Posts: 848
    cheyman:
    rwheelwright:
    Now, to the point I if I didn't already have a *** load already and no place to put them I would probably get the deal anyways. Also, I am overspent on my cigar budget for the month.
    I think I've over spent my cigar budget for the next 3 months...last month!!
    Oh man...my wife hides her anger well!
    lucky bastaard...I'm married to redhead...I've been on buying restriction for months.
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    Bad Andy:
    cheyman:
    rwheelwright:
    Now, to the point I if I didn't already have a *** load already and no place to put them I would probably get the deal anyways. Also, I am overspent on my cigar budget for the month.
    I think I've over spent my cigar budget for the next 3 months...last month!!
    Oh man...my wife hides her anger well!
    lucky bastaard...I'm married to redhead...I've been on buying restriction for months.
    Don't expect us to feel bad for you, you did it to yourself. I know they're hard to resist but you could have said no.
  • rwheelwrightrwheelwright Posts: 3,296
    Bad Andy:
    cheyman:
    rwheelwright:
    Now, to the point I if I didn't already have a *** load already and no place to put them I would probably get the deal anyways. Also, I am overspent on my cigar budget for the month.
    I think I've over spent my cigar budget for the next 3 months...last month!!
    Oh man...my wife hides her anger well!
    lucky bastaard...I'm married to redhead...I've been on buying restriction for months.
    Redhead? I'm soooooo jealous! Nothing more to say!
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