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phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭
So last night the police had stated that they would begin to move out the occupy portlanders from the parks but that never happened. Thousands of people took to the streets in peaceful assembly and kept the police from forcibly removing them. It was some spectacle. Even with their false propaganda, the police failed to incite the people into violence or give them a reason to open up like what happened in Oakland. There was a minor skirmish when police in full riot gear and on horseback started to move in but with so many people there the police wussed out.

I want to give a shout out to how well Portland Occupiers kept cool and collected. As of this morning the people are back in the parks. I do have to say that for me personally I think that since the ulitmatim had been given and the people won; and that winter is coming very quickly that the people need to disband for the winter. It is going to get really cold and I don't want to see anyone get really sick. They stood their ground, they kept cool, and they showed that people in numbers and being peaceful and give the finger to the man.

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  • wwesternwwestern Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭
    While I don't agree with most the crap of these occupy guys, I really enjoy seeing the people stand up for what they believe in.
  • HeavyHeavy Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭
    Meanwhile, the rest of us are at WORK.
  • JZJZ Posts: 827
    "the police failed to incite the people into violence or give them a reason to open"

    As a Police Officer for the last 12 years, I have a huge problem with this statement. The Police don't go out trying to incite any form of violence. Law Enforcement is generally a reactive entity responding to the actions of others. How about giving credit where credit is due, which is the police and the protesters. Both showed restraint and were peaceful and should be commended. I'm not going to say that none of the officers were looking for a problem but if you factor in the high probability of serious injuries to all involved, including the police Id say the percentage would be considerably low if any. The same issues have been reported by Occupy organizers as well in which they call for peace however they have individuals that have other intentions and cause the problems. I dont have any problems with people standing up for what they believe in, whether or not I agree with it or not. Its the power of standing up against issues that laid the foundation to this country. However, it has to be done right, peacefully or the message is lost.
  • fla-gypsyfla-gypsy Posts: 3,023 ✭✭
    JZ:
    "the police failed to incite the people into violence or give them a reason to open"

    As a Police Officer for the last 12 years, I have a huge problem with this statement. The Police don't go out trying to incite any form of violence. Law Enforcement is generally a reactive entity responding to the actions of others. How about giving credit where credit is due, which is the police and the protesters. Both showed restraint and were peaceful and should be commended. I'm not going to say that none of the officers were looking for a problem but if you factor in the high probability of serious injuries to all involved, including the police Id say the percentage would be considerably low if any. The same issues have been reported by Occupy organizers as well in which they call for peace however they have individuals that have other intentions and cause the problems. I dont have any problems with people standing up for what they believe in, whether or not I agree with it or not. Its the power of standing up against issues that laid the foundation to this country. However, it has to be done right, peacefully or the message is lost.


    +1, I have been too busy working to give a care about another useless, pointless demonstration
  • beatnicbeatnic Posts: 4,133
    Report back and tell us what they accomplished. Thanks.
  • wwhwangwwhwang Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭
    fla-gypsy:
    JZ:
    "the police failed to incite the people into violence or give them a reason to open"

    As a Police Officer for the last 12 years, I have a huge problem with this statement. The Police don't go out trying to incite any form of violence. Law Enforcement is generally a reactive entity responding to the actions of others. How about giving credit where credit is due, which is the police and the protesters. Both showed restraint and were peaceful and should be commended. I'm not going to say that none of the officers were looking for a problem but if you factor in the high probability of serious injuries to all involved, including the police Id say the percentage would be considerably low if any. The same issues have been reported by Occupy organizers as well in which they call for peace however they have individuals that have other intentions and cause the problems. I dont have any problems with people standing up for what they believe in, whether or not I agree with it or not. Its the power of standing up against issues that laid the foundation to this country. However, it has to be done right, peacefully or the message is lost.


    +1, I have been too busy working to give a care about another useless, pointless demonstration
    +2. I have some friends that are policemen and my brother's in the process of becoming an officer. No policeman is ever told and trained to instigate violent protests or cause havoc and mayhem. That's the protestor's role. If the protestors actually have a decent reason to protest, then more power to them. But right now, all we have is a bunch of people told by a bunch of socialist Anti-Semites (Adbusters) to whine about how the businessman and Jews (in Occupy LA) keeping them down instead of holding their representatives and senators accountable for pushing through failed policies.

    Tip: When the protestors have to set up security tents in order to protect people from being raped by other protestors, then maybe they should stop blaming the police for violence.
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭
    JZ:
    "the police failed to incite the people into violence or give them a reason to open"

    As a Police Officer for the last 12 years, I have a huge problem with this statement. The Police don't go out trying to incite any form of violence. Law Enforcement is generally a reactive entity responding to the actions of others. How about giving credit where credit is due, which is the police and the protesters. Both showed restraint and were peaceful and should be commended. I'm not going to say that none of the officers were looking for a problem but if you factor in the high probability of serious injuries to all involved, including the police Id say the percentage would be considerably low if any. The same issues have been reported by Occupy organizers as well in which they call for peace however they have individuals that have other intentions and cause the problems. I dont have any problems with people standing up for what they believe in, whether or not I agree with it or not. Its the power of standing up against issues that laid the foundation to this country. However, it has to be done right, peacefully or the message is lost.
    :::cough::: Yeah and acting like they are some sort of military against unarmed people isn't inciting? Police are way too militarized. Watching the live feeds with all those police just rioted up and bringing in re-enforcements all around the state? And threatening to use chemicals? Look what happened in Oakland! Freaking redicoulous. Any self respecting person should be asshamed of themselves of how the police have been acting to the people. Macing people, arresting people while they peacefully protest. It's appauling. Thing is, the police are lucky that these people are peaceful. They outnumber the police greatly and if they they brought the same weapons the police would get a taste of their own medicine. Just like in the 60's, nothing has changed with police, which whom get their salaires from the very people they are treating this way.
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭
    wwhwang:
    fla-gypsy:
    JZ:
    "the police failed to incite the people into violence or give them a reason to open"

    As a Police Officer for the last 12 years, I have a huge problem with this statement. The Police don't go out trying to incite any form of violence. Law Enforcement is generally a reactive entity responding to the actions of others. How about giving credit where credit is due, which is the police and the protesters. Both showed restraint and were peaceful and should be commended. I'm not going to say that none of the officers were looking for a problem but if you factor in the high probability of serious injuries to all involved, including the police Id say the percentage would be considerably low if any. The same issues have been reported by Occupy organizers as well in which they call for peace however they have individuals that have other intentions and cause the problems. I dont have any problems with people standing up for what they believe in, whether or not I agree with it or not. Its the power of standing up against issues that laid the foundation to this country. However, it has to be done right, peacefully or the message is lost.


    +1, I have been too busy working to give a care about another useless, pointless demonstration
    +2. I have some friends that are policemen and my brother's in the process of becoming an officer. No policeman is ever told and trained to instigate violent protests or cause havoc and mayhem. That's the protestor's role. If the protestors actually have a decent reason to protest, then more power to them. But right now, all we have is a bunch of people told by a bunch of socialist Anti-Semites (Adbusters) to whine about how the businessman and Jews (in Occupy LA) keeping them down instead of holding their representatives and senators accountable for pushing through failed policies.

    Tip: When the protestors have to set up security tents in order to protect people from being raped by other protestors, then maybe they should stop blaming the police for violence.
    you have it all wrong buddy. even watching the local broadcasts here and watching the live streams from the occupiers the media is framing all sorts of things wrong. Then when you look at it from a national level and compare to what the occupiers live streams and their corrispondants it's again the media not telling the true story most of the times.

    Now in NY the media and any form of recording is being blocked by police. WTF, is this america anymore? Just like the BS that was pushed on the public for going to war with Iraq and Afghanistan is being used once again.
  • beatnicbeatnic Posts: 4,133
    Hey Phobic, could you explain to me what the truth is? What are they actually protesting, and what is their goal? End game?
  • JZJZ Posts: 827
    You should get that cough looked at, im sure you wouldn't want it to turn into pneumonia
  • KriegKrieg Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭
    God bless the peaceful protesters, lol...

    Yeah...they were peaceful...Right up until the point where they were told to go home, the Occutards in Manhattan were preparing for “a block party the 1% will never forget.” This block party was to take place on Thursday and was expected to be huge with help of their labor union partners. Yup, the AFL-CIO, the Service Employees International Union and the Laborers’ International Union of North America will take part in Thursday’s “day of action,” where they intended to shut down Wall Street by holding a street carnival.

    Occupy Wall Street spokesman Ed Needham said, "I think we're certainly going into this with our eyes wide open, but (the march is) to provoke ideas and discussion, not to provoke any violent reactions.” Too bad the Occupiers seem to be “better” at provoking violence than they do provoking ideas or solutions or rational discussion.

    I’m sure Obama’s Children will be announcing some time today that they’re going to go ahead with their shut down Wall Street protest on Thursday – without their tents, sleeping bags, empathy tables and STD testing facilities.

    Meanwhile, Occutard antics were costing small businesses and therefore affecting workers.

    According to the New York Post, since the Occupy Wall Street movement began in Zuccotti Park on September 17, protestors have cost surrounding businesses $479,400. Local jewelry shops, restaurants, and beauty salons complain that aggressive signs and reports of violence have dissuaded patrons from visiting their establishments – essentially driving struggling small companies out of business…

    The rising costs of running water, toiletries, and repairs have skyrocketed in recent months as occupiers liberally use bathrooms as their own personal washrooms and destroy company property. Meanwhile, businesses are often required to stay open later – especially coffee shops – when intransigent protestors refuse to leave after closing. Alas, this leads inevitably to higher staffing costs. The expenditures are currently estimated at more than $9,000 a day!

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldoherty/2011/11/13/ows_costs_local_businesses_in_nyc_nearly_$500,000
    Well...now it's time to get back to work.

    "Long ashes my friends."

  • KriegKrieg Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7uuPCWXng Tea Party vs Occuparty....Quite a big difference.

    "Long ashes my friends."

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