BAD CIGAR!!! Help!!!

ddubridge

Set out to smoke some RP Connecticut tonight with a friend. Both of us semi-newbi but learning and loving cigars. convo started with taste. I thought was alright and he said kinda bitter. I was tasting an after taste of bitter but he kept complaining. Mine got better toward the sweet spot and he still thought it was really bitter. the draw got really tight on his cigar so I tried his cigar. It tasted like s***. Made me wanna puke. Trying to figure out how to upload pics of the other 8 I bought, but i dont know how. 5 out of 8 of the cigars have green spots on them (similar to blue mold I see on tobacco leaves from pictures.) please 1. tell me how to put pics on this forum and 2. Tell me what is wrong with these cigars.

joshvoigt

Welcome to the banter. If you use the search function it has detailed instructions on how to paste pictures. Keep on smoking! It will take a while for you to develop your palette. If you have any questions shoot me a pm.

wwhwang

First, are the green splotches mold? Try wiping it off. If it does, it's mold. If not, then it's most likely underfermented tobacco. If you don't want to deal with it, try returning it. If you want a connecticut that can never go wrong, try out the MoW Virtue, San Lotano Connecticut, or Oliva Connecticut Reserve.

Direwolf

Just bumped up the Newb to forum thread. That has links to how to format a post and tells how to add pics.

rossdavey2

I have never had a good RP cigar. Some guys love em, all I have had have been bad or meh. How long ago did you get them? Have they been stored at 70/70 and for how long?

Amos_Umwhat

wwhwang:

First, are the green splotches mold? Try wiping it off. If it does, it's mold. If not, then it's most likely underfermented tobacco. If you don't want to deal with it, try returning it. If you want a connecticut that can never go wrong, try out the MoW Virtue, San Lotano Connecticut, or Oliva Connecticut Reserve.

Good advice from wwhang, also, that's the thing with anything hand-made, sometimes there's a dud. I'm just finishing an Armada, damn thing split for about half the stick! (Was in the humi for over a year at 68%, 68- 70 degrees temp) I left the band on, slid it forward a little, actually, which seemed to stop the split. $hit happens, the next one will be fine, just hang in there!

ddubridge

The green spots dont wipe for, they are part of the wrapper. almost like a water spot but different.

ddubridge

just ordered them. like a good newb i let them sit in the humi for a week just below 70/70 . Anything im planing on smoking right away I leave arought 67%.

Russ55

Those spots are normal. The bad taste could be the cigars needed some rest, or they weren't at the right humidity, or it could be any number of things. It could also be the inconsistency of that cigar. The RP connie isn't the most consistent cigar out there. I'd let 'em rest for a few weeks then try them again. If you don't want to do that, ccom has a good return policy.

ddubridge

we have probably had 40-50 cigars, maybe more. I dove in head first and have 3 humi's and 60 cigars on hand. No problems so far with any others, but im kinda worried about the others in the bunch. Btw, love the MOW Virtue.

bigharpoon

When you cut the cigar did you take a dry, un-lit draw to test the cut and level of resistence? Just wondering if the really tight draw was straight from the cut or it developed. A super tight draw can cause a lot of problems, like having to draw on it so hard and often the cigar becomes bitter because it's so heated up.

ddubridge

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ddubridge

his cigar was a very easy draw from the start. my was easy the whole way through. remember, my cigar was fine, his only tightened up about 1/3 through.

allsmokedup

Looks like a leaf that was fresh that's been rubbed against something hard. Consistent pattern in the same general spot. Not mold.
If it's overly bitter, then it's most likely over-hydrated, or the leaf is too young, or both.

gaberox

Well I had a couple RP connies back in 08 and thought they were very nice. Back then also used to love the 90s and 92s. Not sure how they are these days. I can honestly say the EO Brands 601 line went from world class to just ok since RP joined the club.

wwhwang

gaberox:

Well I had a couple RP connies back in 08 and thought they were very nice. Back then also used to love the 90s and 92s. Not sure how they are these days. I can honestly say the EO Brands 601 line went from world class to just ok since RP joined the club.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to sound like a broken record, but RP does have a habit of doing that. Most of his blends receive rave reviews and have great flavor when they first come out. But then after the initial release, the flavors tend to seem very different and harsh, which leads me to believe that the blend changed and aren't fermented as long.

catfishbluezz

Had the same issue with the same stick. Buried them for a couple months, returned and they were excellent for what they are. Let them sleep, the green will go away

MTuccelli

ddubridge:

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kuzi16

i am no fan of most of the RP line. never have been. there are burn issues, draw issues, consistency in taste issues, and most of all, i am not a fan of the blending style of most of the cigars.

things like your experience have driven me away from Rocky Patel. try the camacho Connecticut, Cusano 18 Connecticut, or any Davidoff. those wont have construction/taste issues.

Toombes

MTuccelli:

ddubridge:

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Yup, looks like a few unfermented spots. It was already mentioned, but bury them for a few more months and they should be good to go. As for the tight draw, they're hand-rolled. That's the price we pay for our hobby...

Gaetano7890

That's funny because I bought a box of rp autumn collection and had a couple with that same problem. The color is exact but have never had a cigar with that problem since. The only rp I smoke occasionally r the sun grown. It's to bad because the rp vintage was one of the sticks that got me into cigars the casino by my house carried um. I will stick to my mow.