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  • kuzi16kuzi16 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭
    Retircs1:
    the aging process you are talking about is that RP means with stick that are 10 12, etc... ?
    sometimes.
    there is no real standard for vintages in cigars.


    i had a blerb about it in another thread. here is what i had to say:

    The “Vintage” of almost any product means the year of production. Not in the cigar world. Is the vintage the year the cigar is released? The year the tobacco is grown? The year it is rolled? Or maybe its like the Cubans do it and have a vintage based on when the cigar is boxed? And if it is from when the tobacco is grown what leaf does it apply to, the wrapper only? What about the filler? If the wrapper is from 2003 and the filler is from 2005 what is put on the label of that cigar: “vintage 2003?”

    There is no standard. Every company has a different concept of what their “vintage” is. Is a cigar that is labeled “Vintage XXXX” actually vintage to that year even after 10 or 15 years of constant high output annual production? That tobacco from the original release is long gone. It is no longer “vintage” to that year, the word “vintage” is just a name now and has no meaning.

  • RhamlinRhamlin Posts: 9,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great read!
  • First_WarriorFirst_Warrior Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Real important info. I've learned more about cigars in the past couple of months on this site than i learned in the past three years. Now i know why some cigars I've recieved from BOTL'S have a date written at the bottom fold of the cellow. I'm going to start dating the cigars I get as they are put up to rest.
  • Lee.mcglynnLee.mcglynn Posts: 5,960 ✭✭✭✭
    One of the only companies I know that really somewhat ages the cigars is fuente. That being said it's really just the gof's and don carlos gran anixersarios.
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  • CharlieHeisCharlieHeis Posts: 8,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First Warrior:
    Real important info. I've learned more about cigars in the past couple of months on this site than i learned in the past three years. Now i know why some cigars I've recieved from BOTL'S have a date written at the bottom fold of the cellow. I'm going to start dating the cigars I get as they are put up to rest.
    I started doing this a while back. I can't keep them all straight, so it's a good idea.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭
    Lee.mcglynn:
    One of the only companies I know that really somewhat ages the cigars is fuente. That being said it's really just the gof's and don carlos gran anixersarios.
    depends on what you mean by "age"

    most non-Cuban brands have an aging room. often it is 6 months to a year in there. does that qualitfy?

    ive seen a few of them first hand.
  • 11thGenSoutherner11thGenSoutherner Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I learned a lot reading this

  • YaksterYakster Posts: 27,909 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This has only gotten more noticeable with the surge in demand and limits of production during COVID, you really want to test resting your cigars when you get them instead of smoking them all ROTT (Right Off The Truck). The flavors develop with rest so I take to hiding new arrivals in my wine fridge and forget about them for a couple of months before smoking most of the time.

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  • SampsonSampson Posts: 99 ✭✭✭✭

    from reading this I thought of a something. If you store your cigars unwrapped while aging could the flavors or oils from one cigar affect the flavor of another? They state that if you store your cedars in something like a western cedar box they will pick up that flavor so could the same be true from cigar to cigar?

  • YaksterYakster Posts: 27,909 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2023

    IMHO, it can happen but usually doesn't or isn't noticeable. Don't store your Kentucky Fire Cured or flavored cigars with your good cigars, otherwise I think you'll be good, but someone will come along and correct me if I'm wrong.

    I leave mine wrapped to protect the wrapper from handling since I paw through my cigars and throw them around when looking for something to smoke.

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  • dirtdudedirtdude Posts: 5,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    C'mon Rusty, I think the kid was trying to learn something here.

    A little dirt never hurt
  • YaksterYakster Posts: 27,909 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't worry, Rusty schooled him on vHerf.

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  • Rdp77Rdp77 Posts: 6,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dirtdude said:
    C'mon Rusty, I think the kid was trying to learn something here.

    Just pokin fun Randy. He actually is trying to learn and is receptive to everything people are telling him on the vHerf

  • dirtdudedirtdude Posts: 5,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Right on, bring him up right Rusty

    A little dirt never hurt
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