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nightmaremike31nightmaremike31 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭
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So I guess Michael Jackson is dead... Just thought I would toss it in to the mix. Thoughts, commments, concerns, eulogies.
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  • zoom6zoomzoom6zoom Posts: 1,214 ✭
    Well, now he can finally release that gangsta rap album.
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭
    Though he made an impact in the 80's and 70's, even had a lot of charitable contributions, I still don't know why he's being made such a big deal of, I mean he went to court twice for sexually abusing children. That sort of made me not like him one bit. I think a lot of people are forgetting this.
  • cholmes8310cholmes8310 Posts: 1,585
    phobicsquirrel:
    Though he made an impact in the 80's and 70's, even had a lot of charitable contributions, I still don't know why he's being made such a big deal of, I mean he went to court twice for sexually abusing children. That sort of made me not like him one bit. I think a lot of people are forgetting this.
    I second the squirrel's thoughts on this one. I don't have any sympathy for child molesters. Everyone can argue he was acquitted, but he settled the first case out of court for an undisclosed amount of money. He was guilty. If he wasn't, don't think for one second he would have paid anyone anything. He would have paid his lawyers all the money they wanted to clear him of that.
  • Rob1110Rob1110 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭
    After Farrrah Fawcett died, standing at the gates of heaven, god said to her "Farrah, you've lived a good life so before letting you into heaven, I'll grant you one wish."

    After thinking for a minute, Farrah replied "I just want all the children of the world to be safe."

    Michael never saw it coming.
  • nightmaremike31nightmaremike31 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭
    Rob1110:
    After Farrrah Fawcett died, standing at the gates of heaven, god said to her "Farrah, you've lived a good life so before letting you into heaven, I'll grant you one wish."

    After thinking for a minute, Farrah replied "I just want all the children of the world to be safe."

    Michael never saw it coming.
    ROFL!!!! So beautiful!! Can I get an AMEN??!!
  • tseehorntseehorn Posts: 14
    nightmaremike31:
    Rob1110:
    After Farrrah Fawcett died, standing at the gates of heaven, god said to her "Farrah, you've lived a good life so before letting you into heaven, I'll grant you one wish."

    After thinking for a minute, Farrah replied "I just want all the children of the world to be safe."

    Michael never saw it coming.
    ROFL!!!! So beautiful!! Can I get an AMEN??!!
    holy crap that has to be one of the most beautiful statements I have ever read... you sir have honestly made my day!
  • nightmaremike31nightmaremike31 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭
    Michael Jackson touched little boys, Farrah Fawcett made little boys touch themselves
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Posts: 4,131 ✭✭
    Well since his body was 99% plastic anyway, they are having him melted down and poured into molds for Legos so little boys can still play with him. hehe
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭
    tseehorn:
    nightmaremike31:
    Rob1110:
    After Farrrah Fawcett died, standing at the gates of heaven, god said to her "Farrah, you've lived a good life so before letting you into heaven, I'll grant you one wish."

    After thinking for a minute, Farrah replied "I just want all the children of the world to be safe."

    Michael never saw it coming.
    ROFL!!!! So beautiful!! Can I get an AMEN??!!
    holy crap that has to be one of the most beautiful statements I have ever read... you sir have honestly made my day!
    oh my lord, good one. I think it's f'd up how he is trumping her....
  • j0z3rj0z3r Posts: 9,403 ✭✭
    I never thought much of Michael except that he was damn weird. I always kinda thought the people who sued him were after money with him being so high-profile, so I didn't really buy into him molesting the kids...not saying he didn't, but I can understand why he'd settle even if he was innocent. All in all, he was a great talent at one point in time, but I don't feel we are any worse off with him gone, no better either. As for Farrah, well I'm glad she could have some peace after her struggle, no person should have to fight a losing battle with cancer, so for her sake I'm glad it's over.
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    You know they think it may not have been cardiac arrest after all, it may have been food poisoning. Seems he had a 9 year old wiener shortly before his death.
  • LukoLuko Posts: 2,003 ✭✭
    Geez, how tasteless. All jokes aside, there is some good to come out of this tragedy....he's going to continue donating his organs to kids.

    Seriously, I think Dante has a entire circle dedicated to this freak.
  • jihiggsjihiggs Posts: 469 ✭✭
    whatever he became later in life, he was a very influential artist, and an extremely talented performer. was this man a child molester? I really dont know, did he pay the first family off to burry the truth? or did the family accuse him wrongly just to get money? there is no evidence either way. you say he wouldnt have paid the money to the family instead he would have paid the lawyers, you dont know what he would have done, I wont argue that he was right in the head so you dont know what his thought process was. just because he has become an embarrasing pop figure does not give any one the right to dump all over a man they didnt know when he died.
  • LukoLuko Posts: 2,003 ✭✭
    uh hello, what were anonymous internet cigar forums created for if not to dump on people, especially crazies who more than likely molested little kids? To me, there is no worse sin or crime than to molest/abuse a child. You do that and I'm dancing on your grave.
  • cabinetmakercabinetmaker Posts: 2,560 ✭✭
    Rob1110:
    After Farrrah Fawcett died, standing at the gates of heaven, god said to her "Farrah, you've lived a good life so before letting you into heaven, I'll grant you one wish."

    After thinking for a minute, Farrah replied "I just want all the children of the world to be safe."

    Michael never saw it coming.
    Best MJ joke EVER.
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Posts: 4,131 ✭✭
    jihiggs:
    whatever he became later in life, he was a very influential artist, and an extremely talented performer. was this man a child molester? I really dont know, did he pay the first family off to burry the truth? or did the family accuse him wrongly just to get money? there is no evidence either way. you say he wouldnt have paid the money to the family instead he would have paid the lawyers, you dont know what he would have done, I wont argue that he was right in the head so you dont know what his thought process was. just because he has become an embarrasing pop figure does not give any one the right to dump all over a man they didnt know when he died.
    I dumped on him for YEARS while he was alive, I figure just because he died it doesn't make him a better person that deserves anymore respect. He was a sicko that raped children. The world is a better place.
  • KriegKrieg Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭
    This just in....MJ's last words were "Quick, take me to the children's hospital!" (I'm sooo bad)

    "Long ashes my friends."

  • naughtnaught Posts: 56
    I feel for his friends and family, but... he tried so hard to be anything but human... I just can't have the same sadness I would for one of my species. I think if he'd just grown old gracefully, and humanly, he'd be so much more memorable and worthy of my respect.
  • naughtnaught Posts: 56
    That being said, I wish I'd held on to my Beat It jacket :(
  • jihiggsjihiggs Posts: 469 ✭✭
    my thinking is, if your child was molested your first phone call would be to the police, maybe a hitman, or to your brother asking him to get his arsenal and meet at the corner market to make plans. the first phone call would not be to a lawyer suing him for millions. so he payed out of court, so what. that does not imply guilt, it probly would have been cheaper after paying lawyers and court fees.
  • jihiggsjihiggs Posts: 469 ✭✭
    Luko:
    uh hello, what were anonymous internet cigar forums created for if not to dump on people, especially crazies who more than likely molested little kids? To me, there is no worse sin or crime than to molest/abuse a child. You do that and I'm dancing on your grave.

    whatever you believe internet forums are for is irrelevant, its a matter of respect and maturity.
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    jihiggs:
    my thinking is, if your child was molested your first phone call would be to the police, maybe a hitman, or to your brother asking him to get his arsenal and meet at the corner market to make plans. the first phone call would not be to a lawyer suing him for millions. so he payed out of court, so what. that does not imply guilt, it probly would have been cheaper after paying lawyers and court fees.
    Do a little homework first buddy, there were criminal charges pressed against Jackson. NOW the kid did refuse to cooperate after the settlement but its hard to say whether that was part of the agreement to taking the settlement. Does that make them money hungry, sure but does it make Jackson less guilty? Absolutely not. You don't pay someone $22 million just to get the weight of the trial off your back. If you're innocent of something that horrendous you fight with every ounce of your strength.
  • LukoLuko Posts: 2,003 ✭✭
    jihiggs:
    Luko:
    uh hello, what were anonymous internet cigar forums created for if not to dump on people, especially crazies who more than likely molested little kids? To me, there is no worse sin or crime than to molest/abuse a child. You do that and I'm dancing on your grave.

    whatever you believe internet forums are for is irrelevant, its a matter of respect and maturity.
    Yeah, I was being a smartass about internet forums. I'm not much of a pop music fan, so he really didn't earn my respect there, although I acknowledge his talent. But, most importantly, I believe wholeheartedly he sexually abused kids. Yes, it was never proven by the justice system, but it doesn't have to be for me to believe it to be true. He was a predator and I'm glad he's gone, just like I'll be glad when O.J.'s gone...he did it too.

  • bbc020bbc020 Posts: 1,422 ✭
    I'm just glad that I don't have to make a judgment here. I think one can have his or her convictions and voice them as loud or as quiet as they see fit. Normally in these type of situations, there isn't much merit in some kind of debate, simply because they are convictions, they aren't changed readily too often.

    I tend to believe that all human life is sacred regardless of circumstances. That being said, it is only my opinion and I don't think it is up for debate on whether or not I am right or wrong in my thinking. This is a forum to share opinions, I don't see where there is much room here for condemning folks with certain beliefs. I try only to take them in and weigh them with my personal experience. Then, maybe I can learn from them.
  • bbc020bbc020 Posts: 1,422 ✭
    ok...the keeping the kids safe joke was hilarious.
  • gmill880gmill880 Posts: 5,947 ✭
    Michael Jackson arrives at the Pearly Gates and is ushered in to stand before God. God enters the room , looks at Michael, then slowly circles him. God then takes a seat and stares intently at Jackson for several minutes. Then leaning forward God says " I could of swore when I made you I made you a black kid " .
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Posts: 4,131 ✭✭
    gmill880:
    Michael Jackson arrives at the Pearly Gates and is ushered in to stand before God. God enters the room , looks at Michael, then slowly circles him. God then takes a seat and stares intently at Jackson for several minutes. Then leaning forward God says " I could of swore when I made you I made you a black kid " .
    And God said unto St. Peter, "Who brought the white woman?"
  • forgetfulrobotforgetfulrobot Posts: 40
    What did MJ and Santa always have in common? They both left little boys rooms with empty sacks.
  • Jetmech_63Jetmech_63 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    Whats the difference between MJ and a Grocery bag

    One if made of plastic and dangerous to children
    The other holds groceries...

    Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk :)
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭
    PuroFreak:
    jihiggs:
    whatever he became later in life, he was a very influential artist, and an extremely talented performer. was this man a child molester? I really dont know, did he pay the first family off to burry the truth? or did the family accuse him wrongly just to get money? there is no evidence either way. you say he wouldnt have paid the money to the family instead he would have paid the lawyers, you dont know what he would have done, I wont argue that he was right in the head so you dont know what his thought process was. just because he has become an embarrasing pop figure does not give any one the right to dump all over a man they didnt know when he died.
    I dumped on him for YEARS while he was alive, I figure just because he died it doesn't make him a better person that deserves anymore respect. He was a sicko that raped children. The world is a better place.
    I knew we could agree on some things.....
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