US is getting Desperate!
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http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9610C520130703?irpc=932
Are we, the US going to literally piss off every nation over this "snowden-gate". Just wow.
Are we, the US going to literally piss off every nation over this "snowden-gate". Just wow.
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I had trouble with the copy and paste, I'm not trying to step on your thread.
By Angelika Gruber and Emma Farge
VIENNA/GENEVA (Reuters) - Bolivia on Wednesday accused the United States of trying to "kidnap" its president, Evo Morales, after his plane was denied permission to fly over some European countries then inspected at Vienna airport on suspicion he was taking fugitive U.S. intelligence analyst Edward Snowden to Latin America. Snowden was not on the plane and is still believed to be stranded in the transit lounge of a Moscow airport. The United States has been trying to get its hands on him since he revealed details of its secret surveillance programs last month. Bolivia said the incident, in which the plane was denied permission to fly over France and Portugal before making an stop-over in Vienna, was an act of aggression and a violation of international law. The White House declined to comment on the Bolivian assertion. The furor was the latest twist in a saga which has raised debate over the balance between privacy rights and national security. Revelations of U.S. surveillance on European countries have also strained trans-Atlantic relations. France on Wednesday said free-trade talks between the European Union and the United States should be delayed by two weeks given tensions over media reports stemming from the Snowden case that Washington is spying on the 28-nation bloc.
NO ONE ON BOARD
The Bolivian plane was taking Morales home from an energy conference in Moscow when it landed at Vienna airport on Tuesday evening. Austrian Deputy Chancellor Michael Spindelegger said Morales personally denied that Snowden was aboard his jet and agreed to a voluntary inspection. "Based on this invitation from Bolivia a colleague boarded the plane, looked at everything and there was no one else on board," Spindelegger told reporters. Bolivia's ambassador to the United Nations, Sacha Llorenti Soliz, expressed outrage at the train of events. "We're talking about the president on an official trip after an official summit being kidnapped," he told reporters in Geneva. "We have no doubt that it was an order from the White House. By no means should a diplomatic plane with the president be diverted from its route and forced to land in another country." However, the ambassador said Bolivia's anger was directed at the United States and the countries that prevented the plane from flying over them. "There is no problem with relations with Austria. On the contrary, we are grateful that we were able to land there," he told Reuters. The plane eventually left about noon and by mid-afternoon had arrived at Spain's Canary Islands for a refueling stop. But the incident was not likely to be forgotten quickly. Llorenti said Bolivia, which is part of a Venezuelan-led leftist alliance which has challenged U.S. political and economic influence in Latin America, would complain to the United Nations. Leaders of the South American bloc Unasur demanded an explanation for what they called "unfriendly and unjustifiable acts". In a statement from Peru's government, which holds the group's presidency, they expressed outrage and indignation because Morales' plane was not permitted to land in Portugal and France. Bolivia is among more than a dozen countries where Snowden has sought asylum and Morales has said he would consider granting the American refuge if requested. The 30-year-old Snowden, who worked for the National Security Agency as a contractor in Hawaii, has been trying since June 23 to find a country that will offer him refuge from prosecution in the United States on espionage charges. But his options have narrowed since he arrived in Moscow from Hong Kong with no valid travel documents after the United States revoked his passport. Five countries have rejected granting Snowden asylum, seven have said they would consider a request if made on their soil, and eight said they had either not made a decision or not received a request. U.S. President Barack Obama has warned that an offer of asylum from a country would carry serious costs. Russian President Vladimir Putin is unwilling to send Snowden to the United States, with whom Russia has no extradition treaty. But he is also reluctant to damage ties over a man for whom Putin, a former KGB spy, has little sympathy. Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, who was also in Moscow for the energy conference, said on Tuesday he would consider any asylum application from Snowden. There was no new word from him on Wednesday. Despite France's role in the plane incident, Paris on Wednesday called for a delay in talks between the European Union and the United States on a free trade accord. Government spokeswoman Najat Vallaud-Belkacem said Paris did not want to halt the negotiations on a deal that could boost the EU and U.S. economies by more than $100 billion each per year. "On the other hand, it would seem wise to us to suspend them for a couple of weeks to avoid any controversy and have the time to obtain the information we've asked for," she said. The European Commission in Brussels and Germany both said they wanted the first round of talks to start as scheduled on Monday in Washington. The EU has demanded the United States explain a German magazine report that Washington was spying on the bloc, calling such surveillance shocking if true. French President Francois Hollande said the alleged action was intolerable and could hinder U.S. relations with Paris and the EU.
Too late. they already do.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
LMDAO.
It is easy to comment, criticize and write up an article in the media but the fact is- lots happen under the table by the name of so-called greater Political and Economic interest. My above comment is based on my two decades of professional experience in the Foreign Affairs field.
At the end, it is not about the religion, race or geographical location. It is based on greater political and economic interest where the word ethics does not exist. People can talk a lot but the fact is this will never change. This is the reality of the Global Politics. The worst part is every single country, religion and race has good and bad people. At the end, the good people suffer not the bad one. It has been this way centuries after centuries and it will remain the same. The big question is- how to minimize the risk when we cannot eliminate it.
Same as the Egypt Thread:
Agreed. However we cannot minimize the risk because our Government has no ethics as well. We are no different than the peoples of thousands of years who lived, loved conducted business and commerce before us except for the fact that distance no longer plays a role it once did. We may have moved forward technologically but not socialogically. What makes these times dangerous are not as much the political/economic interests (though they are a catalyst) is the poison of religious fanaticism under the hands of a few. Bottom line is we are all the same as our cave dwelling forefathers dressed in suits and talkin on cell phones.