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For all those in California be afraid

blutattooblutattoo Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭
If you buy cigars over the internet this Douche Assembly member Roger Dickinson is sponsoring a bill that would outlaw all internet purchases of tobacco.

This is supposedly designed to stop children from being able to buy cigarettes over the internet, but it covers every aspect of online tobacco sales. Oh, and this would also bring the state some $24 million in tax revenue that is otherwise missed by these online purchases.

Here is the press release. I urge everyone to call their assembly member and tell them to either amend the bill to exclude cigars or kill the bill altogether. http://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-pc-internet-tobacco-sales-20140113,0,1306210.story#axzz2qchBwoRo

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    0patience0patience Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome to the United Socialist Republic of America.
    These morons are going to continue to keep trying this until one of them finally gets it to go through.

    More media mis-information. That there is "literally no verification of age on internet sales".
    Then make it where you have to verify the age.
    Copenhagen website has verification software.
    This is a non-issue that they are trying to use to kill tobacco sales on the internet.
    In Fumo Pax
    Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.

    Wylaff said:
    Atmospheric pressure and crap.
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    Jetmech_63Jetmech_63 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    I love this state. My retirement plan is actually going to be to go to mexico, become a citizen and hop the border back to California. All told they make more money than i do now.

    Back on topic, this comes up from time to time here in CA, one of these times it's going to stick. Hell they did just ban all lead ammo(takes effect 2016), 3 more years and i can escape...
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    jgkaminjgkamin Posts: 110 ✭✭
    blutattoo:
    If you buy cigars over the internet this Douche Assembly member Roger Dickinson is sponsoring a bill that would outlaw all internet purchases of tobacco.

    This is supposedly designed to stop children from being able to buy cigarettes over the internet
    Thanks for Mr. DICKinson looking out for the well being of the children, because every 12 year-old with a credit card will now be prevented from ordering their smokes online. Kudos!
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    blutattooblutattoo Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭
    JGKAMIN:
    blutattoo:
    If you buy cigars over the internet this Douche Assembly member Roger Dickinson is sponsoring a bill that would outlaw all internet purchases of tobacco.

    This is supposedly designed to stop children from being able to buy cigarettes over the internet
    Thanks for Mr. DICKinson looking out for the well being of the children, because every 12 year-old with a credit card will now be prevented from ordering their smokes online. Kudos!
    Exactly what I thought. Doesn't the fact that you need a credit card to order tobacco constitute proof that you are at least 18. I mean what's next outlawing all internet porn because you can't guarantee the viewer is 18. It's just a combination of a tax grab and the f***ing smoke ****'s trying to get rid of tobacco altogether.
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    jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe mr DICKinson is trying to address children lying about their age when going online. Isn't that a criminal act..?

    Like every other feel good law you attack the innocent (immigration, guns, etc etc) because you can't attack, or won't attack the guilty.

    And with Credit cards being issued to dogs and birds I guess it is not the credit card issuers problem either. And of course with a lot of parents leaving parenting up to everyone but themselves they aren't responsible either.

    My step father use to say (a lot) that locks are for honest people, and laws are for lawyers and politicians.

    IMHO if calalafornia dropped into the ocean half of this countries problems would disappear. And now we have NY City adding to the problems.
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    catfishbluezzcatfishbluezz Posts: 7,000 ✭✭✭
    Good thing they won't police the Swiss!
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    stephen_hannibalstephen_hannibal Posts: 4,317
    They did this in MD briefly. Eventually they realized there was no way to enforce it.

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    blutattooblutattoo Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭
    stephen_hannibal:
    They did this in MD briefly. Eventually they realized there was no way to enforce it.

    Well let's hope so. It seems like it'd be easy enough ton enforce. Just disallow credit card providers from allowing tobacco purchases from CA billing addresses they do it already for internet gambling.
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    perkinkeperkinke Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭
    blutattoo:
    stephen_hannibal:
    They did this in MD briefly. Eventually they realized there was no way to enforce it.

    Well let's hope so. It seems like it'd be easy enough ton enforce. Just disallow credit card providers from allowing tobacco purchases from CA billing addresses they do it already for internet gambling.
    They can't, that's interstate commerce and can only be regulated by Congress. Chances are if they do this and it gets challenged that it would get knocked down because of the Commerce Clause. This is right up there when they banned importing soccer cleats made of kangaroo leather (which are awesome), nevermind the fact that 'roos are just giant rodents and the commercial harvesting is a model of sustainable practices. I think the law got knocked down to just they can't be sold in CA.

    We have some anti-tobacco n a z i s in my organization that are working on banning the one "smoke" (really a head shop) from being allowed to smoke on premises. Just dumb.
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