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http://news.yahoo.com/colorado-utah-move-hike-smoking-age-21-063423281.htmlDENVER (AP) — Two Western states with some of the nation's lowest smoking rates are considering cracking down even more by raising the tobacco age to 21. Utah and Colorado lawmakers both voted favorably on proposals Thursday to treat tobacco like alcohol and take it away from 18- to 20-year-olds, a move inspired by new research on how many smokers start the habit as teenagers. "By raising the age limit, it puts them in a situation where they're not going to pick it up until a much later age," said Marla Brannum of Lehi, Utah, who testified in favor of the idea there. In Colorado, the testimony was similar — that pushing the tobacco age could make it harder for teens to access tobacco, and possibly reduce usage rates among adults. "What I'm hoping to do is make it harder for kids to obtain cigarettes," said Rep. Cheri Gerou, a Republican who sponsored the measure. Both proposals face several more votes. But they're the furthest any states have gone to curb access to cigarettes by teens. The director of tobacco studies at University College London didn't know of any other countries considering a tobacco age threshold of 21, but he said raising the tobacco age from 16 to 18 in the United Kingdom proved to be "a public health winner." A paper published last year in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine said that 9 out of 10 daily smokers in the U.S. have their first cigarette by 18 years of age, and that about 90 percent of cigarettes purchased for minors are obtained by people between 18 and 20 years old. The Washington-based Campaign For Tobacco-Free Kids advocates the higher smoking age and argues that it could make a serious dent in tobacco deaths down the road. "We see this as sort of an added step to reducing smoking rates," in addition to higher tobacco taxes and other curbs, said Campaign vice president Peter Fisher. Armando Peruga, program manager of the World Health Organization's Tobacco Free Initiative, said he supported the U.S. proposal, provided that it would be strictly enforced and that it was accompanied by other tobacco control measures, such as high taxes and smoke-free regulations. "It needs to be part of a comprehensive policy to counter the tobacco industry's influence on young people," Peruga said. Four states, including Utah, already require tobacco purchasers to be 19. The others are Alabama, Alaska and New Jersey. Fisher said the 21-for-tobacco bills are also pending in state legislatures in Hawaii, Massachusetts and New Jersey. Maryland lawmakers considered and rejected the idea this year. New York City last year raised the tobacco age to 21, as did Hawaii County, Hawaii. Utah already has the nation's lowest smoking rate, about 12 percent in 2011 according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Colorado isn't far behind, at about 18 percent in 2011, according to the CDC. Despite the low rates, health advocates in both states testified that a higher tobacco age could depress the rates even further. "Moving it to later, obviously we can help reduce use," said Bob Doyle, head of the Colorado Tobacco Education and Prevention Alliance. When the legal age of smoking was raised from 16 to 18 in the U.K., there was a significant drop in the number of people who started smoking, University College London's Robert West said. "The ages from 18 to 21 is a period of huge uptake and even if you're able to delay (teenagers) from starting smoking rather than preventing it altogether, there would be a significant health benefit. You're essentially allowing the rather scrambled adolescent brain to settle down and avoid smoking during that period before they turn 21, after which they may decide they absolutely do not want to smoke anyways," he said.

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  • RainRain Posts: 8,960 ✭✭✭
    Can only speak from personal experience. I started smoking cigs around 16. I stole them from my Dad, and I did not give an eff about the legal age. I'm down to about two a day, but I'm not a fan of this. You can go to war at 18......
  • SasquatchSasquatch Posts: 290 ✭✭✭
    At what age are we going to truly consider an individual an adult?
    Adult in the form of, they can make decisions on their own and be held accountable for those decisions they freely made. 18 used to be the magic number, now it is creeping up to 21. Is this a good thing for our society to consider someone 18 an adult for some purposes but not other purposes?
  • ShadowInTheMoonShadowInTheMoon The 8th CirclePosts: 507
    I live in utah and its stupid... i dont have a huge issue as im 21 so it wont effect me much but what about the people that are already 18 or 19 and smoking?
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  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat West TNPosts: 6,194 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As no one under 90 seems to have enough sense to be in the legislature, I propose we raise the minimum age of all elected officials to 91. This will reduce their ambition to make stupid decisions in order to make a name for themselves, thereby eliminating many stupid decisions currently being made in the interest of promotion of self. Since they're already in their 90's, term limits won't be a big issue anymore. At the first sign of stupid decision making, voters can declare them incompetent and have them removed from office, not to be replaced until the following election. We'll save a bundle on Congressional / Senatorial retirement checks, too.

    If you're old enough to get shot at for your country, you're old enough to enjoy every single freedom that the country has to offer.
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  • perkinkeperkinke Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭
    Amos Umwhat:
    As no one under 90 seems to have enough sense to be in the legislature, I propose we raise the minimum age of all elected officials to 91. This will reduce their ambition to make stupid decisions in order to make a name for themselves, thereby eliminating many stupid decisions currently being made in the interest of promotion of self. Since they're already in their 90's, term limits won't be a big issue anymore. At the first sign of stupid decision making, voters can declare them incompetent and have them removed from office, not to be replaced until the following election. We'll save a bundle on Congressional / Senatorial retirement checks, too.

    If you're old enough to get shot at for your country, you're old enough to enjoy every single freedom that the country has to offer.
    Period
    As to this particular issue, I'm pretty much on the fence. I don't think it's going to do any good but I also don't see a substantial harm

    The question of maturity it brings up is much more interesting. I think most of us would agree that the younger generations are not maturing as fast as the previous generations had (I think those that were sent overseas to the combat zones are an obvious exception). I really don't think that the majority of 18 year olds today are as mature as an 18 was in 1980, let alone 1940. In large part I think it's because we've let them slide on that, which is both good and ill; it's great that they didn't have to work to contribute to the family's survival, but bad that expectations have been lowered. But we have also taken away a lot of their chances to grow into their own choices, fewer and fewer are given any real responsibility before they're tossed into the world where, as I've told several of my interns (not as a criticism of them but just in general discussion and in some instances a compliment on their own maturity), no one thinks they're special like mom did.

    So, do I think this is a good or bad move? Meh, i'm leaning slightly against it because I don't see enough of a positive to it. However, it does seem to mirror the psychological reality of our population at present.

    Found a pretty good article about it here.

    http://futureofchildren.org/publications/journals/article/index.xml?journalid=72&articleid=518
  • jgibvjgibv John G.Posts: 9,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CO legalizes marijuana but wants to further restrict tobacco use....if you'd have told me that would happen a few years ago I'd say "no way you're crazy". As bob Dylan sang "the times they are a changin". Ain't that the truth

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  • raisindotraisindot BostonPosts: 1,311 ✭✭✭
    Amos Umwhat:
    As no one under 90 seems to have enough sense to be in the legislature, I propose we raise the minimum age of all elected officials to 91. This will reduce their ambition to make stupid decisions in order to make a name for themselves, thereby eliminating many stupid decisions currently being made in the interest of promotion of self. Since they're already in their 90's, term limits won't be a big issue anymore. At the first sign of stupid decision making, voters can declare them incompetent and have them removed from office, not to be replaced until the following election. We'll save a bundle on Congressional / Senatorial retirement checks, too.

    If you're old enough to get shot at for your country, you're old enough to enjoy every single freedom that the country has to offer.
    Period
    +1!, LOL!
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