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Bob_Luken
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Seems like he had a good grasp of the situation going in,......didn't he?
Barack Obama, November 21, 2007: Well, I truly believe that the day Im inaugurated, not only does the country look at itself differently but the world looks at America differently. If Im reaching out to the Muslim world they understand that Ive lived in a Muslim country and I may be a Christian but I also understand their point of view My sister is half Indonesian, I traveled there all the way through my college years and so Im intimately concerned with what happens in these countries and the cultures and the perspectives these folks have. And those are powerful tools for us to be able to reach out to the world and when you combine that with my work on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on everything from nuclear proliferation to issues of genocide then I think that the world will have confidence that I am listening to them and that our future and our security is tied up with our ability to work with other countries in the world. That will ultimately make us safer, and thats something that [the Bush] administration has failed to understand.
Barack Obama, November 21, 2007: Well, I truly believe that the day Im inaugurated, not only does the country look at itself differently but the world looks at America differently. If Im reaching out to the Muslim world they understand that Ive lived in a Muslim country and I may be a Christian but I also understand their point of view My sister is half Indonesian, I traveled there all the way through my college years and so Im intimately concerned with what happens in these countries and the cultures and the perspectives these folks have. And those are powerful tools for us to be able to reach out to the world and when you combine that with my work on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on everything from nuclear proliferation to issues of genocide then I think that the world will have confidence that I am listening to them and that our future and our security is tied up with our ability to work with other countries in the world. That will ultimately make us safer, and thats something that [the Bush] administration has failed to understand.
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It's not about talking nice and quoting the Koran. No, not even if you spell it with a Q. Conciliation just makes us look weak. Proximately, it's about us consistently backing Israel for 60 years now. Meanwhile, Israel consistently kicks Arab ash; which does not make it any easier for them to swallow. Of course, you also have our eating pig and idolizing **** and officious atheism and all that, to stir the pot. But that's only cassus belli. Ultimately, it's the fact that East is east and West is West, and never the twain shall meet. Darius and Xerxes and Alex the Great fought this way back before Mo or the Jeeze. Our magnetic poles repel North and South; our human poles repel East and West. Anyone who thought you were going to defuse millennia of antipathy by Obama's sister being half Indonesian is just about wishful thinking enough to vote for Hope and Change. Twice. That's who O speaks to: Wishful thinkers. Idealists. Daydreamers. Why do you think he's so popular in Hollywood?
Good grasp my ash. The man who did most to bring East and West together was Nixon inviting China to harness capitalism. Which has resulted in other problems.
This O quote reminds me of those bumper stickers: "Think Peace". Yeah. Just think peace. That oughtta do it.
You forgot to blame George Bush!
On a separate note, Bush sucked. It's unfair that 9/11 happened during his presidency, but he was a total rube, you can't deny that. Technically, EVERY president is to blame for the powers the executive branch has lost over the years.
Likewise, Obama rammed an incredible amount of legislation through Congress from 2008-2010 because Democrats had control of both houses. His legislative paralysis began only when Republicans began picking up seats again in 2010 and more in 2014. Since at least the Teddy Roosevelt era, the ability of presidents to get things done (other than launch undeclared wars) is completely dependent on how much their party dominates Congress (and how many in that party agree with the president's priorities).
It's been going on since day one.
You are so far off it does not justify replying...That is, what is the use.
As far as different opinions go, I usually cut and paste (remember, it is one of the accusations) and the comments made in reply are usually fixed reply's, as in will never be changed. Or ghost written, as in someone else's words.
And as far as different opinions go I have no quarrel with people that "have there own thoughts", but one youngster can't even back up his "cut and paste" and never comes back with an answer. As far as the posted video, which by the way all political videos are slanted, it is a shame the whole thing isn't available because some of the people asked the questions had some serious doubts about how and where they got there news after it was over and is further proof that too many people listen to cnn, npr and msnbc. I watch all of them and Fox and cns and I use to watch BBC, and then make up my own mind. As far as what they said, I have heard the same far too often from far too many "enlightened" (say "indoctrinated") college people.
And I say again, I am neither republican or democrat or progressive or conservative. I was raised democrat changed to republican after I returned from overseas. I went independent when it became apparent that pretty much all politicians belong in jail or a padded cell. And I think McCain would have been a terrible president but I believe that our Mormon candidate would have been far better then what we got. But, I can say with out the slightest reservation, or hesitation, the the worst thing that has happened to this country, in my lifetime, is obozo and his minions.
And what snarky comment? For pete's sake one of your sainted conversationalists left the forum came back under another log in, made some very questionable posts, including accusing me of being a member of the KKK, which you found no problem with, and thought he was smart and not blatantly obvious. Another tactic, time and time again, is to accuse anyone who has a problem with illegal immigrants, welfare fraud, or voter fraud, of being a racist. And sooner or later it all becomes Bush's fault. So why converse, I already know what you are going to say.
You do often just cut and paste articles, which in of itself is not that much of an issue. It the fact that you almost never bring up any of your own thoughts, feelings, or personal opinions about the articles that you are posting. Some of the times, it seems as if you're not even reading the articles that you are posting (WMD's found). Also, I'm not someone that is posting articles and never returning to comment on them; I assume you are talking about Dickowitz (or whatever his name is). I have also heard you on several occasions say that you get your information from several sources, but everything you seem to post comes from far-right wing commentators.
It doesn't matter to me how you view yourself politically, but your profile talks about your dislike for liberals and how you voted only for Republicans. It would be foolish not to consider your beliefs falling right of center. As far as Romney is concerned, he lost that election because he was unwilling to connect with the media, had far to many gaffs, and flip-flopped between his Republican ideals.
I don't understand how other people's comments about you being a KKK member has anything to do with me. I've never claimed you're a racist. Nor have I ever given supportive comments to someone who has. I've never laid praise or given a saintly status to any of the other posters on this forum. You assume to much of me. I think if you actually go back and look through my comments, you might find that I take a fairly middle of the road approach to my opinion.
A president can't do it all so they surround themselves with those who can. Bush had a better staff than Obama overall, in my opinion.