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webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
Why can't we get funny ads like this. All we get is deluged by New Jersey mud slinging.
“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


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  • The3StogiesThe3Stogies Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭✭
    Squeal like a pig!! It is a great ad, been getting all kinds of robo-calls too. Once in a while I get a live person, last night one asked who I was voting for governor and I said Jimmy Carter, dead silence for a few seconds.
  • raisindotraisindot Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭
    Love that ad!

    Only problem with it is that you get so enthralled by the little piggies that you forget what's being said in the ad. Also, in reality, it creates the impression that's going chop up them cute little piggies. Would've made a more effective connection if instead of the little guys they had shown a huge, mean, filthy, 500 pound wild boar, but there are already enough Chris Christie ads out there.....
  • Ken_LightKen_Light Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭
    You get NJ ads? All I get is NY and CT. Go figure.
    ^Troll: DO NOT FEED.
  • Bob_LukenBob_Luken Posts: 10,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    raisindot:
    Love that ad!

    Only problem with it is that you get so enthralled by the little piggies that you forget what's being said in the ad. Also, in reality, it creates the impression that's going chop up them cute little piggies. Would've made a more effective connection if instead of the little guys they had shown a huge, mean, filthy, 500 pound wild boar, but there are already enough Chris Christie ads out there.....
    Nobody is distracted from the message. There could not be a clearer message. She says she'll cut the pork. (Cut unnecessary spending.) And, in reality the pigs in the ad were already too big. This is an ad for Iowans. Right? Well, you may not know this but Iowans probably do know that you don't "cut" grown boars. In reality you cut them as piglets. Makes for better meat. So, a huge, mean, filthy, 500 pound wild boar would make no sense,..............Oh wait. You're only focused on making fun of the fat guy............Nevermind.
  • variant2variant2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭✭
    Ken Light:
    You get NJ ads? All I get is NY and CT. Go figure.
    Same here.

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  • jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bob Luken:
    Nobody is distracted from the message. There could not be a clearer message. She says she'll cut the pork. (Cut unnecessary spending.) And, in reality the pigs in the ad were already too big. This is an ad for Iowans. Right? Well, you may not know this but Iowans probably do know that you don't "cut" grown boars. In reality you cut them as piglets. Makes for better meat. So, a huge, mean, filthy, 500 pound wild boar would make no sense,..............Oh wait. You're only focused on making fun of the fat guy............Nevermind.


    The only problem is that other then calling them out on the floor and embarrassing them (if that is possible), unless the POTUS is given the power of "line item veto" most of the pork will always get through. Like ya know $17,000.00 for fat suits so skinny people can experience the stares and glares of other skinny people.
  • webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congress is the pork industry. They are not about to put themselves out of business.

    “It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


  • Ken_LightKen_Light Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭
    raisindot:
    Love that ad!

    Only problem with it is that you get so enthralled by the little piggies that you forget what's being said in the ad. Also, in reality, it creates the impression that's going chop up them cute little piggies. Would've made a more effective connection if instead of the little guys they had shown a huge, mean, filthy, 500 pound wild boar, but there are already enough Chris Christie ads out there.....
    I think it's great when people attack Christie for being fat. Only goes to show there's not much else to pick on.
    ^Troll: DO NOT FEED.
  • raisindotraisindot Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭
    Ken Light:
    raisindot:
    Love that ad!

    Only problem with it is that you get so enthralled by the little piggies that you forget what's being said in the ad. Also, in reality, it creates the impression that's going chop up them cute little piggies. Would've made a more effective connection if instead of the little guys they had shown a huge, mean, filthy, 500 pound wild boar, but there are already enough Chris Christie ads out there.....
    I think it's great when people attack Christie for being fat. Only goes to show there's not much else to pick on.


    Oh, from Highway Gate to QuarantineGate, there are many, many things about Chrisite to pick on. But I admit mine was a very cheap shot and I do apologize for it and anyone offended by it. But, offensive joke aside, and getting back to the original ad, as much as I liked it, I do think it would've been much more effective--and much funnier--with some kind of huge, dirty, stinky hog in a filthy muddy pig pen to represent the evil pork metaphor better. This is a critique of the aesthetics of the ad, not its message, with which I totally agree in terms of the need to trim Congressional pork. Although, of course, everyone has their own definition of what pork is.
  • webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ken Light:
    raisindot:
    Love that ad!

    Only problem with it is that you get so enthralled by the little piggies that you forget what's being said in the ad. Also, in reality, it creates the impression that's going chop up them cute little piggies. Would've made a more effective connection if instead of the little guys they had shown a huge, mean, filthy, 500 pound wild boar, but there are already enough Chris Christie ads out there.....
    I think it's great when people attack Christie for being fat. Only goes to show there's not much else to pick on.
    Well, get used to it. Next two years we will have multiple dramatic prime time series wherein the powerful heroine is a blonde bombshell genius female secretary of state fearlessly making hard decisions and saving the world while juggling a wholesome family -- versus fat jokes.

    “It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


  • Ken_LightKen_Light Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭
    raisindot:
    Ken Light:
    raisindot:
    Love that ad!

    Only problem with it is that you get so enthralled by the little piggies that you forget what's being said in the ad. Also, in reality, it creates the impression that's going chop up them cute little piggies. Would've made a more effective connection if instead of the little guys they had shown a huge, mean, filthy, 500 pound wild boar, but there are already enough Chris Christie ads out there.....
    I think it's great when people attack Christie for being fat. Only goes to show there's not much else to pick on.


    Oh, from Highway Gate to QuarantineGate, there are many, many things about Chrisite to pick on. But I admit mine was a very cheap shot and I do apologize for it and anyone offended by it. But, offensive joke aside, and getting back to the original ad, as much as I liked it, I do think it would've been much more effective--and much funnier--with some kind of huge, dirty, stinky hog in a filthy muddy pig pen to represent the evil pork metaphor better. This is a critique of the aesthetics of the ad, not its message, with which I totally agree in terms of the need to trim Congressional pork. Although, of course, everyone has their own definition of what pork is.
    QuarantineGate? That's a thing? The **** practically got herself thrown out of Maine after we tossed her.
    ^Troll: DO NOT FEED.
  • webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Raisindot, I think anyone who attempted to balance a budget by reducing government would be anathema to you regardless of girth.

    How much is enough?

    “It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


  • raisindotraisindot Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭
    webmost:
    Raisindot, I think anyone who attempted to balance a budget by reducing government would be anathema to you regardless of girth.

    How much is enough?

    The problem with you, Webmost, is that in your totally unyielding, black and white, us vs. them view of the world you mistakenly assume that all liberals support unlimited government spending and unlimited government control, which is absolutely not true. Most liberals don't want to see the government spending billions of dollars on military equipment that even the Pentagon doesn't want, solely to benefit Congressmens' defense contractor puppet masters. Most liberals don't want trillions of dollars and precious manpower resources to fight wars in nations that are of no vital interest to us other than access to oil. Most liberals don't want the government spending billions on subsidies and corporate welfare for Big Agriculture, Big Banks and Big Oil. Most liberals didn't want billions of dollars spent to create one the largest liberty-threatening bureaucracies in the history of the country, the Department of Homeland Security. Most liberals don't approve of the billions that have been spent to monitor our library card activity, phone calls, email messages and internet activity.

    In fact, most liberals don't approve of real pork barrel spending--which isn't Obamacare or defense or homeland security or entitlements but little pet projects--like silly historical preservation initiatives and presidential libraries--in representatives' local districts--that doesn't occur in their OWN neighborhoods. Hell, many liberals--myself included--don't even approve of most pork barrel projects in our own state.
  • SleevePlzSleevePlz Posts: 6,249 ✭✭✭✭
    Couple things. First, THANK YOU.
    webmost:
    Second, everyone loves to talk about cutting pork, but no one ever does. Third, I see Christie as the next McCain. He'll run for the Republican nomination and lose to a more conservative nominee. The following election, he'll become more conservative and win the nomination, but alienate all of the moderate libs that would have voted for him the first time and probably lose. Too bad, really. I don't (obviously) follow NJ politics, but what I do see of Christie is very likable.
    LLA - Lancero Lovers of America
  • jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    raisindot:
    webmost:
    Raisindot, I think anyone who attempted to balance a budget by reducing government would be anathema to you regardless of girth.

    How much is enough?

    The problem with you, Webmost, is that in your totally unyielding, black and white, us vs. them view of the world you mistakenly assume that all liberals support unlimited government spending and unlimited government control, which is absolutely not true. Most liberals don't want to see the government spending billions of dollars on military equipment that even the Pentagon doesn't want, solely to benefit Congressmens' defense contractor puppet masters. Most liberals don't want trillions of dollars and precious manpower resources to fight wars in nations that are of no vital interest to us other than access to oil. Most liberals don't want the government spending billions on subsidies and corporate welfare for Big Agriculture, Big Banks and Big Oil. Most liberals didn't want billions of dollars spent to create one the largest liberty-threatening bureaucracies in the history of the country, the Department of Homeland Security. Most liberals don't approve of the billions that have been spent to monitor our library card activity, phone calls, email messages and internet activity.

    In fact, most liberals don't approve of real pork barrel spending--which isn't Obamacare or defense or homeland security or entitlements but little pet projects--like silly historical preservation initiatives and presidential libraries--in representatives' local districts--that doesn't occur in their OWN neighborhoods. Hell, many liberals--myself included--don't even approve of most pork barrel projects in our own state.


    So, now you are against big bureaucracy? Hmm...I remember a post where you touted and lauded big governmental bureaucracy's and never replied when you were called on it.

    Also I seem to remember how quiet certain segments of our country that did not make a peep when HS was brought up and a lot of people wondered about that.

    Speaking of invasion of privacy, obozocare trampled all over it with its IRS connection and central data collection. Maybe someone should have read it before it was passed, talk about a bureaucracy, is there any bigger?

    Of course I will admit obozo has done what he can to stem the growth of bureaucracy, what with all of his executive orders and such.

    It will be interesting to see what further bureaucratic surprises he has store after the elections, you know, when he has more latitude and won't further affect the results. What is the number----something like 30,000,000 green cards.

    Counting....
  • raisindotraisindot Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭
    jd50ae:
    raisindot:
    webmost:
    Raisindot, I think anyone who attempted to balance a budget by reducing government would be anathema to you regardless of girth.

    How much is enough?

    The problem with you, Webmost, is that in your totally unyielding, black and white, us vs. them view of the world you mistakenly assume that all liberals support unlimited government spending and unlimited government control, which is absolutely not true. Most liberals don't want to see the government spending billions of dollars on military equipment that even the Pentagon doesn't want, solely to benefit Congressmens' defense contractor puppet masters. Most liberals don't want trillions of dollars and precious manpower resources to fight wars in nations that are of no vital interest to us other than access to oil. Most liberals don't want the government spending billions on subsidies and corporate welfare for Big Agriculture, Big Banks and Big Oil. Most liberals didn't want billions of dollars spent to create one the largest liberty-threatening bureaucracies in the history of the country, the Department of Homeland Security. Most liberals don't approve of the billions that have been spent to monitor our library card activity, phone calls, email messages and internet activity.

    In fact, most liberals don't approve of real pork barrel spending--which isn't Obamacare or defense or homeland security or entitlements but little pet projects--like silly historical preservation initiatives and presidential libraries--in representatives' local districts--that doesn't occur in their OWN neighborhoods. Hell, many liberals--myself included--don't even approve of most pork barrel projects in our own state.


    So, now you are against big bureaucracy? Hmm...I remember a post where you touted and lauded big governmental bureaucracy's and never replied when you were called on it.

    Also I seem to remember how quiet certain segments of our country that did not make a peep when HS was brought up and a lot of people wondered about that.

    Speaking of invasion of privacy, obozocare trampled all over it with its IRS connection and central data collection. Maybe someone should have read it before it was passed, talk about a bureaucracy, is there any bigger?

    Of course I will admit obozo has done what he can to stem the growth of bureaucracy, what with all of his executive orders and such.

    It will be interesting to see what further bureaucratic surprises he has store after the elections, you know, when he has more latitude and won't further affect the results. What is the number----something like 30,000,000 green cards.

    Counting....


    You know, if instead of just filtering everything through your extremist views you actually read what people said maybe you might have something convinving to say. I never said I supported unfettered big bureaucracy or uncontrolled government spending. Maybe for you Obamacare is your chief bugaboo about invasion of privacy. Is isn't for me. I'm not on Obamacare and my healthcare costs have gone down BECAUSE of Obamacare. But having Homeland Security look over my phone records and emails IS a far greater impingement on my liberties, and I have always vocally faulted Obama for letting these Bush-originated policies continue and grow. And Homeland Security is a FAR larger bureaucracy and extracts FAR more spending than Obamacare does, and I also fault Obama for not reigning in its power and privatizing more of its functions, such as TSA checks.

    And, contrary to what people like you think, you CAN be in favor of strong government oversight of private entities and actions that will harm people if not regulated or prohibited (the first 350 years of America's history clearly demonstrated the dangers of lack of such federal oversight) while still objecting to specific programs and policies. Contrary to what you think, you actually can advocate continued or increased federal sending on certain things while supporting the allocation of spending for other things. It's not an all or nothing proposition. If it were, then conservatives would be just as vocal in advocating huge cuts to military spending, Homeland Security and corporate welfare as they are in advocating the gutting of welfare, Medicaid, education and NPR budgets.
  • webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rdot -- Quit your ducking and dodging. Step up to the plate. Give us a number. How much is enough. Ballpark it. When can we finally say that government has become bloated and stifling out of all proportion.

    How much is enough?

    “It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


  • jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rdud....

    Extremist views....? What in the world are you talking about? I like my country. I do not like corrupt politicians. I do not like drug dealers. I do not like illegal immigrants getting better treatment then law abiding American citizens. I do not like elections ripe with votes by people who have no business voting. I do not like obozo. I do not like the billions of dollars being spent on pork by porkers. I do not like people who use a lot of neat sounding words and phrases that don't amount to a hill of beans. If that makes me an extremist then so be it.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭
    webmost:
    wait... what was this thread about?
  • webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey guess what? The pork cutter won her senate race.
    “It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


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