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Oliva Saison Maduro

Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭✭✭
I picked up some of these on the DD a couple weeks back, first impression is kind of a let down. They're new, and I haven't given them time enough in the humidor to consider it a fair shake, but compared to the other Oliva maduros it seem to lack the depth, complexity, and that mellow sweetness that I expected. Maybe a few more weeks will tell another story. Anyone else get in on these? If so, what did you think?
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  • peter4jcpeter4jc Posts: 16,474 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was just asking myself what the afternoon smoke should be...  and now I know.  I've had a couple of the Saisons that came with some samplers in my humidor for a few months, and this is as good a time as any to try one out.

    Will edit my post in a few hours.  Thanks for putting the idea in my head!

    Edit: I found this a good cigar in the Oliva line-up, slotting above the Oliva O in stength and flavor.  It's in the final third as I type... even on an empty stomach, it's not over-powering, but just right.  It started off a bit harsh, but calmed down quickly, to a somewhat one-dimensional nut/herb/slight sweetness that stayed the same throughout the session - no real shifts in flavor or strength.  A bit tight on the draw, with a solid ash and even burn.  I enjoyed it, and look forward to smoking the few I have left, but wouldn't buy a box.  From a new (8-month) smoker, with only 100 cigars under my belt, so take this commentary for what it's worth.
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  • MartelMartel Posts: 3,306 ✭✭✭✭
    Something about this blend makes me wonder if maduro is not a good idea for it. I haven't tried them, yet and just don't know if I will.

    Wait, what am I saying? It's Oliva. Of course I'll try it. I just don't have great expectations.
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    I like Oliva and Quesada (including Regius) a lot.  I will smoke anything, though.
  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I liked the Saison, so this surprised me. Maybe I expected too much, maybe I just haven't given it sufficient rest time. Time will tell.
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  • MartelMartel Posts: 3,306 ✭✭✭✭
    First, Peter, I started reviews with under 100 smoked. It was so I could learn about my own likes better. Good input. So, thank you.

    Amos Umwhat:
    I liked the Saison, so this surprised me. Maybe I expected too much, maybe I just haven't given it sufficient rest time. Time will tell.
    To each his own. I thought the Saison was okay but not an Oliva I'd search out again. But I haven't tried it in a maddie, either.
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    I like Oliva and Quesada (including Regius) a lot.  I will smoke anything, though.
  • ejgormanejgorman Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭
    I've liked nearly every Oliva I've smoked, but was so unimpressed with Saison that I probably won't even give the Maduro a try.
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  • onestrangeoneonestrangeone Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ejgorman:
    I've liked nearly every Oliva I've smoked, but was so unimpressed with Saison that I probably won't even give the Maduro a try.

    +10
  • mmccartneydcmmccartneydc Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭
    onestrangeone:
    ejgorman:
    I've liked nearly every Oliva I've smoked, but was so unimpressed with Saison that I probably won't even give the Maduro a try.

    +10
    Gotta agree here!
  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmm...did someone withdraw an opinion? I thought I saw a remark that said something to the effect that "they're OK, peppery if a bit one-dimensional"? At any rate, that's what seems to be developing for me. I don't regret the purchase, something to smoke on the way to work. They're not bad, just not as good as I tend to expect from Oliva. So it goes.
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  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Couple weeks later, improving, I'm starting to believe that they did come from Oliva, the expected maduro sweetness is starting to reveal itself. Maybe I was just too impatient, wouldn't be the first time.
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  • MartelMartel Posts: 3,306 ✭✭✭✭
    I know, it's not the maduro, but the regular Saison is on the DD today. Then I look over and see the Partagas Cifuentes Deciembre for less, and I'm thinking, WTH are you thinking, Ccom? Well, it's been a while since I had a Partagas, but I remember them being a great value stick and much better than the Saison.
    Intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.

    I like Oliva and Quesada (including Regius) a lot.  I will smoke anything, though.
  • RhamlinRhamlin Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Martel:
    I know, it's not the maduro, but the regular Saison is on the DD today. Then I look over and see the Partagas Cifuentes Deciembre for less, and I'm thinking, WTH are you thinking, Ccom? Well, it's been a while since I had a Partagas, but I remember them being a great value stick and much better than the Saison.
    I thought the cifuentes was very good.
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