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Regarding how to know a cigar completely

mmkuchimmkuchi Posts: 157 ✭✭
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I just wonder that if there's any sources I can refer to to figure out, for a particular cigar, what grade is the tobacco, when it is grown, what factory is it rolled by, who's the blender, and specifics like all these.

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  • Glock1975Glock1975 Posts: 5,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very good ?, I know it would help a lot.
  • 90+_Irishman90+_Irishman Posts: 12,409 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vast majority of cigar manufacturers and factories are quite secretive about that sort of stuff so no, no place im aware of to get that information.
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  • ChemnitzChemnitz Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭
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  • jgibvjgibv Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭✭✭
    90+ Irishman:
    Vast majority of cigar manufacturers and factories are quite secretive about that sort of stuff so no, no place im aware of to get that information.
    +1 most will not disclose this much info; they see it like giving up a "trade secret".

    wrapper/binder/filler and country of origin are about all you can expect.

    you could try contacting a rep (either at the vendor, distributor, or manufacturer level).....but chances are if the info isn't disclosed on the packaging or online description, they're not going to tell you.

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  • HaysHays Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭
    mmkuchi:
    I just wonder that if there's any sources I can refer to to figure out, for a particular cigar, what grade is the tobacco, when it is grown, what factory is it rolled by, who's the blender, and specifics like all these.
    Experience. One of the gents who taught me a whole hellova lot about the cigar industry could smoke a cigar blind and tell you the age, region, and composition of every component (along with the likely manufacturer based upon blending styles). Absolutely blew my mind, and yes I did test him on it.
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    Chemnitz:
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  • mmkuchimmkuchi Posts: 157 ✭✭
    Chemnitz:
    Kuzi
    What is this?
  • avengethisavengethis Posts: 5,689 ✭✭✭✭✭
    mmkuchi:
    Chemnitz:
    Kuzi
    What is this?
    The correct question is "Who is this?"
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  • roland_7707roland_7707 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭
    avengethis:
    mmkuchi:
    Chemnitz:
    Kuzi
    What is this?
    The correct question is "Who is this?"
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  • danielzreyesdanielzreyes Posts: 8,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gurkha and RP buy their tobacco at Wal-Mart's garden center.
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  • ShadowInTheMoonShadowInTheMoon Posts: 507 ✭✭
    danielzreyes:
    Gurkha and RP buy their tobacco at Wal-Mart's garden center.
    I heard you grew it for them... or is that another green leaf you grow?
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  • The3StogiesThe3Stogies Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭✭
    CCOM mag I got in the mail yesterday had an article that touched on this very topic.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭
    roland_7707:
    avengethis:
    mmkuchi:
    Chemnitz:
    Kuzi
    What is this?
    The correct question is "Who is this?"
    The Yoda of the forums.
    Yoda I am not.


    correct are the comments about detailed information

    there are too many factors even beyond what was mentioned. Seed verity, country it is grown in, soil conditions, when and how it is fertilized, that years temperature, sunlight, rain, how and when it is harvested, where on the plant it came from, how it is cured, how long it is cured. temperature during fermentation, moisture during fermentation, how often the pilones are rotated, the pressure on them, how long the tobacco is aged post fermentation, how the tobacco is treated during the roll....

    that little list is off the top of my head. if i really sit down and think about it, im sure there are about a dozen more major factors. this doesnt even take into account blending and how much of each leaf is used in a cigar.

    if you want to know more about tobacco, just keep reading everything you can get your hands on.
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  • mmkuchimmkuchi Posts: 157 ✭✭
    kuzi16:
    roland_7707:
    avengethis:
    mmkuchi:
    Chemnitz:
    Kuzi
    What is this?
    The correct question is "Who is this?"
    The Yoda of the forums.
    Yoda I am not.


    correct are the comments about detailed information

    there are too many factors even beyond what was mentioned. Seed verity, country it is grown in, soil conditions, when and how it is fertilized, that years temperature, sunlight, rain, how and when it is harvested, where on the plant it came from, how it is cured, how long it is cured. temperature during fermentation, moisture during fermentation, how often the pilones are rotated, the pressure on them, how long the tobacco is aged post fermentation, how the tobacco is treated during the roll....

    that little list is off the top of my head. if i really sit down and think about it, im sure there are about a dozen more major factors. this doesnt even take into account blending and how much of each leaf is used in a cigar.

    if you want to know more about tobacco, just keep reading everything you can get your hands on.
    Thanks!!!
  • SM0K3YSM0K3Y Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭
    Spend a drunken night naked with it? Badumm tisss!

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    Sorry, had to say it!
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭
    SM0K3Y:
    Spend a drunken night naked with it? Badumm tisss!

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    Sorry, had to say it!
    - can i use your lighter?

    -what? you arent gunna call it in the morning ?
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  • SM0K3YSM0K3Y Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭
    kuzi16:
    SM0K3Y:
    Spend a drunken night naked with it? Badumm tisss!

    photo iStock_000008345824XSmall_zpssmz3qgi1.jpg
    Sorry, had to say it!
    - can i use your lighter?

    -what? you arent gunna call it in the morning ?

    Depends, sometimes the good ole yardgars provide the most bang for the buck!
  • jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can we ever really know a cigar completely?
  • Bob_LukenBob_Luken Posts: 10,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jd50ae:
    Can we ever really know a cigar completely?
    I kinda' know the one I'm smoking. I completely know the first half. I'm still learning about the second half.
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