Drew Estate Poor Releases
christian1971
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Who here thinks Drew Estate cigars have really taken a nose dive in quality new releases? Maybe he should focus on the Liga line.
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I actually thought they were changing for the better with the Herrera stuff (Herera Esteli and Norteno), but I have a feeling Swisher will ruin everything. Grape flavored anyone?
I like Oliva and Quesada (including Regius) a lot. I will smoke anything, though.
time will tell if the sale will really impact quality. give it a few years to let it really be noticed.
for the last few years there has been many quality issues reported on forums. i personally have not had a bad DE stick as far as quality of the construction. DE has not been in my rotation as much as it used to be. I find the cigars to be stronger than i personally go for, and they have a tendency to burn out my palate, especially the Liga series.
im not sure how much swisher will change the concept of the company. i do feel they will change the business end of it quite a bit and maybe the culture of the company. this will show up somewhere but its hard to tell at this point. DE already has a HUGE infused market and they have some very popular non-infused lines. i have a feeling that Swisher was looking to pick up the higher end stuff because the usual MO of Swisher is the machine made market. Swisher, keeping DE a conceptual premium brand, keeps them in the Premium market... a market they really wanted to be a part of.
i think i am a bit more optimistic about the transaction than most people.
I would never hate on your opinion. I might tease you about it or post Nish pics to troll you, but everyone can like whatever they like imo. It's my belief of RP (And I used to love some of their blends dearly) that many other much better cigars exist at similar if not better price points in almost every wrapper / style.
I learned of many of these cigars from this place, so in a way, you guys are responsible for my "hate". (Ba5tards!)
Their sticks that I like are the ones that differentiate them from other brands: Decade, 15th Anniversary, Edge maddie. The other stuff is meh.
Come on though Bob, that MARKETING tho? Rocky Patel has turned into a cheese factory. It's basically turned the image of their brand into a mid-life-crisis in a Porsche. Livin that good life.
This has been the Rocky Patel soapbox.
But, I'm not avoiding the RPs I have on hand and I'm not afraid to buy certain RPs again. I'm not really even an RP fan. I have had my share of RP dud sticks but I have enjoyed some of them too. I just noticed the large volume of forum discontent with RP lately when it was kicked off by that post about how awful that NP fella is, and I have neither defended RP, or NP nor hopped on the hate train for the ride. (Until now, I guess I was hating on their human pyramid just now. LOL)
As far as DE goes I generally don't like infused ( or whatever) but I love the Java Mint and the Latte's. They seem to be a good cigar, a bit strong, and the coffee is very real and enjoyable.
I've always enjoyed the T52s, one of the first "true" premeprimepremes I ever smoked.
If memory serves me correctly (and that's a big if), my wife got me one to celebrate getting hired on full time at my job after graduating college.
Never had a bad T52, and they will always have a sentimental spot in my heart.
Will pick them up for special occasions, (vacation, anniversary, holiday, etc) but only smoke a few each year.
The No. 9's & other "Ligas" don't do much for me. The Feral Flying Pig & Ratzillas were good but too hard to find. Not worth the hassle IMO. And I think I have a couple UF13s left, good but again don't know if I'd search 'em out again. Would probably go for the T52 instead.
Haven't had an HE or Norteno yet --- got a Norteno in the humi (thanks to blutattoo!), love the soft box-press shape, very excited to try it.
UC's are good but they've let me down a number of times, smoke output is insane out of this world but had too many burn problems with 'em; don't go out of my way for those anymore.
Always used to love the Tabak Especial's & their more wallet-friendly cousin, Isla Del Sol, for a morning smoke but haven't had either in probably a year or 2.
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Re: Rocky Patel
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