Why box pressed?

LiquidChaos66

So im not sure if this question has been asked before... but I was just thinking (after looking at the Ave Maria sticks on the daily deal) What is the purpose of a box pressed cigar? Is it for easier storage, is it co the cigar doesn't roll around when set down or is there a deeper story behind it?

Bob_Luken

I don't know the answers. I found an old thread though.

http://forum.cigar.com/discussion/501125/box-press-what-is-the-reasoning

LiquidChaos66

Bob_Luken said:

I don't know the answers. I found an old thread though.

http://forum.cigar.com/discussion/501125/box-press-what-is-the-reasoning

I must be some sort of something special. I have had all sorts of issues with online searches. I tried google and I looked here. maybe I wasn't specific enough. lol Anywho, Thanks for the link Bobbo! ;-)

Bob_Luken

I didn't assume that you hadn't searched. Haha I know sometimes my searches are not effective because of how I word things. Sometimes I strike out too.

My first and foremost thoughts on the initial popularity is the uniqueness and the fact that they won't roll away if you rest them on the edge of a table or counter top.   

I don't avoid them and I don't seek them. I don't seem to notice any burn problems with mine above and beyond any comparisons to a parejo. 

rsherman24

Never really liked them for some reason, but never stopped me from buying a good cigar if it was pressed.  Haven't noticed much difference in the burn or draw which I would expect, but most or probably all cigars are put into a mold during the rolling process.

Sounds like a question for @kuzi16

LiquidChaos66

Bob_Luken said:

I didn't assume that you hadn't searched. Haha I know sometimes my searches are not effective because of how I word things. Sometimes I strike out too.

My first and foremost thoughts on the initial popularity is the uniqueness and the fact that they won't roll away if you rest them on the edge of a table or counter top.   

I don't avoid them and I don't seek them. I don't seem to notice any burn problems with mine above and beyond any comparisons to a parejo. 

LOL! Yeah I know you didn't assume I hadn't tried. Im just exasperated by my inability to find answers to my own questions with online searches. Its been an ongoing issue for a while for me. Just like how I couldn't find the name of the curved tobacco knives used by rollers. lol


ANY WHO - im not a huge fan of box pressed. its never been a deterrent for me. Just found it odd... why squish something round into something square? lol

The3Stogies

Don't mind the box pressed, usually double cut them with the notch cutter.  For some reason I like that cut on a box.  Fit my mouth pretty good for rotation but ovals are kinda funky though.

dr_frankenstein56

I love a good box press... Camshaft and presnado instantly come to mind... Yum! But I feel like they smoke cooler

LiquidChaos66

im gonna do some research... more than likely unsuccessfully I might add... I want to see if there was a study done on standard round v box press cigars.

jlmarta

I read somewhere (don't remember where) that they were first made to keep a stogie from rolling off of wherever it had been placed while fishing from a boat. If the boat rolls a bit your cigar could roll off. 

I've experienced it myself so I can see how the notion might have some merit.....

jlmarta

Now that I think of it, it seems to me that it was Ernest Hemingway who instigated it because his cigar kept rolling onto the deck whilst he was fishing...... And I believe the Fuentes accommodated him ...... IIRC...

onestrangeone

I read somewhere that the Cubans did this for efficiency, by mashing it into the box you can get one more in and the pressure gave it a square shape, 'box press'. for me they seem to be a bit more sensitive to the weather esp. the humidity.      

rsherman24

jlmarta said:

Now that I think of it, it seems to me that it was Ernest Hemingway who instigated it because his cigar kept rolling onto the deck whilst he was fishing...... And I believe the Fuentes accommodated him ...... IIRC...

@danielzreyes   Ernest needs a Stogie Stand

CAcigarguy007

Shipping space was the original reason. I don't mind them at all, they tend to be more consistent and burn slower (especially if trunk pressed). I had many a underfilled/squishy figurado sticks but no parejos boxsters that I can remember offhand. 

bearb

LiquidChaos66 said:

Bob_Luken said:

I didn't assume that you hadn't searched. Haha I know sometimes my searches are not effective because of how I word things. Sometimes I strike out too.

My first and foremost thoughts on the initial popularity is the uniqueness and the fact that they won't roll away if you rest them on the edge of a table or counter top.   

I don't avoid them and I don't seek them. I don't seem to notice any burn problems with mine above and beyond any comparisons to a parejo. 

LOL! Yeah I know you didn't assume I hadn't tried. Im just exasperated by my inability to find answers to my own questions with online searches. Its been an ongoing issue for a while for me. Just like how I couldn't find the name of the curved tobacco knives used by rollers. lol


ANY WHO - im not a huge fan of box pressed. its never been a deterrent for me. Just found it odd... why squish something round into something square? lol

FYI, the 'curved tobacco knives used by rollers' are called 'Chaveta' Cigar Rolling Knives...

SecretSquirrel

I've always wondered about this. I always enjoy box presses, never really knew why. Just figured they were a different shape for funzies

BroncoKings

I actually like the boxed press (AJ Fernandez - New world) while barbecuing, I can set it down and it doesn't roll away

wahooschock

Hated em till I smoked a few. Love the mouth feel.

jsnake

I love box pressed. Easier draw on every one I have ever smoked. Burn cooler and feels great in the mouth. Set it doen it stays like a good boy. Torpedoes will always be my favorite but box pressed comes next.

LiquidChaos66

went through my humidor this weekend... not a single box pressed stick to be seen! LOL!!!! I will have to see if my B&M has any in stock and try a few. I would be interested in grabbing the same stick in a standard roll and a box press and see if there are any noticeable differences to me.

customblends@cigar.com

LiquidChaos66 said:

went through my humidor this weekend... not a single box pressed stick to be seen! LOL!!!! I will have to see if my B&M has any in stock and try a few. I would be interested in grabbing the same stick in a standard roll and a box press and see if there are any noticeable differences to me.

Good idea. It will often make a big difference. Some is logical, because you have to slightly under-fill a cigar before pressing to get the right draw. Meaning a greater ratio of wrapper to filler. Also, something about the shape changes everything. I'm constantly surprised whenever I do this. One that I recently noticed is Oliva Serie G. If you like Cameroon wrapped cigars it's definitely worth trying both round a box-pressed in a similar ring gague.

-Bryan @ Cigar.com

LiquidChaos66

customblends@cigar.com said:

LiquidChaos66 said:

went through my humidor this weekend... not a single box pressed stick to be seen! LOL!!!! I will have to see if my B&M has any in stock and try a few. I would be interested in grabbing the same stick in a standard roll and a box press and see if there are any noticeable differences to me.

Good idea. It will often make a big difference. Some is logical, because you have to slightly under-fill a cigar before pressing to get the right draw. Meaning a greater ratio of wrapper to filler. Also, something about the shape changes everything. I'm constantly surprised whenever I do this. One that I recently noticed is Oliva Serie G. If you like Cameroon wrapped cigars it's definitely worth trying both round a box-pressed in a similar ring gague.

-Bryan @ Cigar.com

I will have check out the Oliva Series G cause I am a Camaroon fan!!!! lol I was looking at one of my go to sticks to try this on as well, the Ave Maria line. :-) Maybe I should look in my humidor and see what I have and just try to track down the box pressed sibling instead of buying new smokes. lol