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just need to vent... you can ingnore me. i wont be offended

LiquidChaos66LiquidChaos66 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭✭

So my brother and I used to be very close. We spent a lot of time together and I really enjoyed being around him. Well he got married last year to a woman my wife despises. She thinks she knows exactly every fiber of my brothers wife and doesn't want to be around her or my brother. She thinks my brother is self centered (when he has been there at the drop of a hat for me... MY ENTIRE LIFE) and she feels that whenever he wants to see us that its only cause he wants to feel like he hasn't been a 'bad uncle'. He is currently working 70+ hours a week and going to college after work. He has NO TIME to see us! on top of the fact that he lives over an hour away from us.

We had the opportunity to spend the weekend at the beach with my brother and his wife. Getting a chance to see either of them is extremely rare. I love them both. But I had to lie and push them off like always to appease my wife. Breaks my f**kin heart.

I cant get my wife to budge on her feelings. They are so callous and unjustified. no matter how I try she doesn't budge. THEN she gets mad at me when I get defensive or upset about her talking so much crap about them. I love my wife to death... she really is a great person... except for this one thing.

I miss my brother... A lot. This blows.

Life is like a blind fiver. You never know what you're gonna get.

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    avengethisavengethis Posts: 5,687 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Go see them without her. 
    Team O'Donnell FTW!

    "I've got a great cigar collection - it's actually not a collection, because that would imply I wasn't going to smoke ever last one of 'em." - Ron White
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    jarublajarubla Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I may be presuming too much here, and if I am, you can tell me to piss off. I will not be offended. 

    Have you prayed for God to soften her heart? 

    Again, if I am presuming too much, I apologize. 

    I am very close to my younger bro. I would be heartbroken just like you were I in the same situation.

    I firmly believe God can open doors and change situations. He did it in my life.

    Hope things get better for you!

    -Jay
    “There’ll be two dates on your tombstone and all your friends will read ’em but all that’s gonna matter is that little dash between ’em.” -Kevin Welch
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    LiquidChaos66LiquidChaos66 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭✭
    I've tried praying about it. She is just so solid when she comes to a decision about something. Prior to my parents divorce we were all super close and tightnit. Then my parents split and everything changed. Granted it's been 4-5 years but it will never be the same. 

    Also so I can't go without them. She would be mad at me for leaving her alone with the kid lol
    Life is like a blind fiver. You never know what you're gonna get.
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    wahooschockwahooschock Posts: 792 ✭✭✭
    I can't make whip noise loud enough lol ya olady gonna hate me and kitty . 
    I love my pack and a good community (cigars/Vape)
    "I'm at the point in my life where if it doesn't taste good,I'm not putting it in my mouth"
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    LiquidChaos66LiquidChaos66 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭✭
    I can't make whip noise loud enough lol ya olady gonna hate me and kitty . 

    LMAO! nah.... I think you three will hit it off with her fairly well. :-) NOW HURRY UP AND MOVE TO OREGON!
    Life is like a blind fiver. You never know what you're gonna get.
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    wahooschockwahooschock Posts: 792 ✭✭✭
    Kitty gets upset when people are kept from anything they love and doesn't shut up about it lol
    I love my pack and a good community (cigars/Vape)
    "I'm at the point in my life where if it doesn't taste good,I'm not putting it in my mouth"
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    LiquidChaos66LiquidChaos66 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭✭
    lol Well... maybe I can tell Kitty that I really love motorcycles and my wife wont let me get one...... ;-) guilt her into it! lol
    Life is like a blind fiver. You never know what you're gonna get.
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    matkn293matkn293 Posts: 3,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is certainly a tough situation. I know it's easier said than done but you almost have to put a foot down and take a bit of a stand. Explain to your wife that you love her dearly but at the same time you miss your brother and will see him. If she does not want to join that is her choice. Don't let her drive a wedge between you and your brother. 

    Life is too short to smoke bad cigars!!!

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    peter4jcpeter4jc Posts: 15,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with Mark.  Even though a wife has top priority, even before children, if she's in the wrong then letting her continue in that wrong would be... wrong.  If she loves you, she'll want what's best for you, and let you continue your relationship with your brother, albeit on a more diminished level than you'd prefer.
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    Bob_LukenBob_Luken Posts: 10,016 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I posted on the other DUPLICATE thread. 

    I hate the way we end up having two separate threads going on at the same time over the same exact thing. 

    Has anybody figured out the double post thing yet? Or even why it happens? Some guys (like Chris) get double posts EVERY time. It doesn't happen to everybody. Is it an app thing?  

    Here's an idea. Every time you "always double posts guys" post a thread, think of two things to post about. Make your first post, then edit the duplicate to change it to the other question/statement. 

    Either that or figure out how NOT to double post. LOL


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    EulogyEulogy Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    With solid advice  like that you should be a marriage  counselor.
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    webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Women hold grudges. Shunning, it's what they do. Drives me nutz. You can NOT talk them out of it. They need to have this melodrama in their lives.

    Odium is odious.
    “It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


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    Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pick the person she's closest to and develope an imaginary disdain for them. Then tell her she has to cut all ties with that person. Full disclosure I am not married, nor a marriage counselor.
    Y'know, that sounds brilliant.  Justifiable.  To the point.  It won't work, unfortunately, because Webmost is right, and, she's going to be WAY better at it than you, because you're pretending, and she's a natural.
    WARNING:  The above post may contain thoughts or ideas known to the State of Caliphornia to cause seething rage, confusion, distemper, nausea, perspiration, sphincter release, or cranial implosion to persons who implicitly trust only one news source, or find themselves at either the left or right political extreme.  Proceed at your own risk.  

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    raisindotraisindot Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2015
    This sounds like a job for....

    ASK AMY. 

    Seriously. This is classic advice column material. She gets this kind of question at least once a month, and her answers often are pretty common-sensical. Here's how she would probably answer your question: 

    "First of all, you need to figure out exactly what is the source of your wife's antipathy toward your brother and his wife. According to your question, it sounds like your sister in law is the issue. When sisters in law don't get along, that antipathy is often transferred to the brother in law. Without being judgmental, ask your wife to list specific things that the SIL and your brother did to engender this hatred. You might find out things that you didn't know about. Just listen, without trying to defend him or your sister in law. At the end of the diatribe, just say, "Now I have a better understanding of where you're coming from. This doesn't change my need to have a relationship with my brother [don't mention the wife] but I can see how it affects you."

    This may not lead to making the situation better, but at least it will give you an understanding of where she's coming from and it make her feel less like you and your brother and SIL are "ganging up on her." If she can't name specific examples of  bad behavior, that at least your assessment of her feelings being unjustified can be substantiated. But even if this is so, don't try to "correct her." As others have said, grudges are often irrational, and you can't rationalize the irrational.  


    You may never be able to able heal this rift. But at the same time, when you say you want to visit your brother and SIL and leave your child with your wife, you're creating feelings of abandonment that only make this situation worse. If you're going to assert your right to visit your brother and SIL--and you certainly should feel you have the right to do so--then offer to take your child with you. The opportunity to have a day off from parenting will very likely overcome her objection to you making this visit.And it shows her that your visit is actually a real family visit, rather than what she might think of it being--an opportunity for you to have a "day off" from parenting partying with your brother and SIL."

    Now, I'm not saying  I would recommend this. This is just what Amy would probably say. 
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    LiquidChaos66LiquidChaos66 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭✭
    Bob_Luken said:
    I posted on the other DUPLICATE thread. 

    I hate the way we end up having two separate threads going on at the same time over the same exact thing. 

    Has anybody figured out the double post thing yet? Or even why it happens? Some guys (like Chris) get double posts EVERY time. It doesn't happen to everybody. Is it an app thing?  

    Here's an idea. Every time you "always double posts guys" post a thread, think of two things to post about. Make your first post, then edit the duplicate to change it to the other question/statement. 

    Either that or figure out how NOT to double post. LOL



    LMAO!!!! I did see your post in the other thread. I don't know why I get duplicate posts. I guess ill only make a post when I have 2 topics in mind.... that way I can just change the other to my second thought. ;-)


    Thanks for the input guys! I really appreciate it. I know my wife will change her frame of mind when (if) she ever spends more time with them. It was the same way with my mom after my parents got a divorce. my wife hated every fiber of her being and over the years they have grown closer and have a decent relationship now. Im sure it will work the same way in this case too. She just needs to really get to know people before hating them! LMAO!


    We did see a marriage counselor when we were a year into our marriage. Things were really hard (due to employment and financial issues) and we were at each others throats the entire time. We went to a counselor and I was blamed for everything and the counselor agreed even though I wasn't the one with the temper issue. So I have a slight aversion to them. lol


    I have been working with my wife to get her to speak to counselors cause she has a lot of really unjustified views on life and people and its really disheartening. I want whats best for her but she is stubborn and "knows how things will turn out in every situation so its not worth the time". She budged though and has spoken with one recently and its really helped her. I wish she would make it a regular thing cause I cant be her counselor and her husband at the same time. The whole not having sex with your patients thing is kinda a roadblock. ;-) lol

    Life is like a blind fiver. You never know what you're gonna get.
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    wahooschockwahooschock Posts: 792 ✭✭✭
    How do ya know they have issues without sex? Lol weird
    I love my pack and a good community (cigars/Vape)
    "I'm at the point in my life where if it doesn't taste good,I'm not putting it in my mouth"
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    LiquidChaos66LiquidChaos66 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭✭
    How do ya know they have issues without sex? Lol weird


    LMAO!

    I guess the s-e-x word gets blocked. lol We need a thread for what words are censored. bet it would look like this

    *****

    *****

    *****

    *****

    *****

    *****

    *****


    LMAO!!!!

    Life is like a blind fiver. You never know what you're gonna get.
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    RhamlinRhamlin Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know exactly how you feel. Been there done that. My younger once said something to my wife she didn't like and she's held on to that grudge for years and years. It doesn't matter how much he's done for us, which is quite a bit actually. I've had to do the whole lying thing to him myself, which pisses me off to no end. When someone has a grudge that runs that deep there's nothing you can do about it. 
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