Require An Electricians Advice 230V Italian (IEC?) to 240V NEC
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Well bought a commercial Italian vapor steamer with injection from a legit USA company for the auto detailing business. Seems there could be a big problem though, this things literally straight from Italy with a crazy looking Italian plug. I cut the plug off there are 3 wires, Brown 230V Line/Hot, Blue/Neutral, Yellow/Green/Ground. Are 240V Single Phase receptacles over here in America are 120V Red/Hot, 120V/Black/Hot, Green/Ground.
From what I've read around various forums online people (some claiming their Electricians or Electrical Engineers) are saying they rewired European/Italian coffee makers etc. as follows...
Brown Line/Hot to Red/Hot or Black/Hot, Blue/Neutral to Red/Hot or Black/Hot, Yellow/Green/Ground to Green/Ground.
Here are some pics of the on/off switch on the front of steamer and the internals of the steamer where the 3 main conductors hook up. Be sure to turn your screen brightness up or won't be able to see the 3 main wires clearly.
Thank you in advance to those who are knowledgeable in this electrical field stuff.
From what I've read around various forums online people (some claiming their Electricians or Electrical Engineers) are saying they rewired European/Italian coffee makers etc. as follows...
Brown Line/Hot to Red/Hot or Black/Hot, Blue/Neutral to Red/Hot or Black/Hot, Yellow/Green/Ground to Green/Ground.
Here are some pics of the on/off switch on the front of steamer and the internals of the steamer where the 3 main conductors hook up. Be sure to turn your screen brightness up or won't be able to see the 3 main wires clearly.
Thank you in advance to those who are knowledgeable in this electrical field stuff.
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But blue should be neutral and yellow ground, but without seeing the schematics for it, hard to tell.
The problem with going from 50-60 hz is that it takes a toll on diodes, resistors and windings.shoukd be ok, but the life will suffer.
Do you have the scematics for the machine?
Are you sure it's not 3 phase?
US
Red 110 leg
Black 110 leg
Green ground
White neutral
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@0patience, No schematics, can only take pics of the wiring unfortunately. Why change the cord out? Also has lifetime warranty on the major stuff, guy said even with heavy use hes rarely seen problems...So I’m thinking why the fvck not just have them make it to NEC specs and have an NEMA plug made from the factory in Italy when exporting to the USA LOL!
Plus if someone else has to repair the cord, they will be able to. If an electrician sees different colors, they may walk away.
What is the make and model of it? The manufacturer should have something on it.
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red&black 120V wires to the brown wire to make 240V then it’s just white to blue for neutral and ground to ground?
US will have split power terminals.
If I knew that there was a European standard and what it was, could say.
But not knowing for sure, unsure.
Does the destructions give you any wiring info?
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It'll be fine once the swelling goes down.
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Heres the plug I cut off, Top terminal is Ground, Bottom left terminal is 230V Line, Bottom right terminal is Neutral
Main cord coming into machine from back, runs under big white box exits with Yellow/Green/Ground reversing back being grounded to the frame grounding point. Both the Brown and Blue wires run up and connect to the On/Off switch.
Shows the Brown 230V Line wire connecting to one bottom terminal on the On/Off switch, Blue Neutral wire connecting to other bottom terminal. The White and Black wires coming off the top of the on/off switch go into the big white box. I tried opening this big white junction box but afraid of breaking the plastic fasteners they didn't exactly want to turn.
Front of On/Off switch
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The one in the middle looks like your plug
240v U.S. is 2 ungrounded conductors or hot, a grounded conductor or neutral, and a ground. I believe 230v European is 1 ungrounded conductor or hot, 1 grounded conductor neutral, and a ground. Connecting 240v U.S. to 230v European would fail spectacularly. Tripped breaker, if your lucky.
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It'll be fine once the swelling goes down.
With that said, after our recent travels abroad, and checking with an electrician friend. I have learned that most modern electrical products are made with dual voltage innards. Often the only thing needed is a plug adapter like @dirtdude posted a picture of.
I know our new digital camera charger, electric razor, and hair dryer only needed the adapter, no switch to flip, or cord to change. Could this be the same?
My understanding most electronics will handle dual voltage, although I had to replace the battery and charger on my laptop. Just because you have an adapter and can plug it in does not mean you have the correct voltage to operate. I was pretty pleased with myself for getting a small coffee pot to africa unbroken, plugged it in with my handy dandy adaptor, started it up and that thing went into overdrive, sounded like a rocket...for a half a pot...done. I cut the cord off and threw it away.
After trying to figure out what went wrong, we discovered that the building was 230v and the wireless was 120v.
We had to have the fly boys bring us in new units.
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