What in the name of....

VegasFrank

Lots of new and interesting peeps on the forum this month...let's review:

@Peaches introduced "herself" with a picture of a gravity challenged gold digger in the coronavirus thread.

@JackHunt (pronounced Ja-KUNT) schooling us about the movie trivia thread in his second post

@Meinhard1 (me-in-hard-one) asking silly questions about dear old dad...

@Chrisucn_86 (Chris suckin') and his stinky smokes...

@LoraGoergy (ends in an orgy?) has a first comment badge but no findable comment. Even the automated gatekeeper doesn't buy that post as legit!

@danielzreyes not active since September 26th.... 🤔

d_blades

@MATTYVANE33

ForMud

My guess is it's right after Christmas and everyone who got a fiver and a wooden box to put them in is out seeking answers to life's problems......

Amos_Umwhat

You left out the ever-peeping Silverdak.

Every year, usually starting mid-November, we get a bunch of "Newbies" who are full of crap. DZR is given WAY too much credit for these posts. Usually, they ask stupid questions like: "How many cigarettes do you smoke daily?" I have called this out before.

My thoughts have been that either this is an assignment given by some High School Sociology teacher, or perhaps college prof, about the same thing these days, to teach the class "how social deviance works in the U.S.". We're the deviants.

Another theory, while he's comfortable letting DZR take all the credit, Rbeckom used to prank / manipulate us a LOT more than DZR ever did. Note that we haven't heard anything out of his "baby brother", or perhaps alter-ego Dbeckom ever since he made good, finally, on a trade.

At any rate, this is why I personally often don't respond to questions from "Newbies". Especially certain stupid questions, or ones that contain certain mis-spellings, one of Rbeckoms trademarks.

Or, maybe I'm way wrong. But, it sure happens every year.

Bob_Luken

Y'all sound like a bunch of wacko conspiracy theorists.

miller65rod

Bob_Luken

Speaking of conspiracies,... instead of automatically projecting all the mistrust we have for fakers onto EVERY newbie with a dumb question,....... why don't we conspire to figure out a less offensive way to welcome good legitimate newbies while at the same time weeding out the losers and fakers. Maybe something similar to the "good traders list"?

Also, is it possible for the IT department at Ccom to fix it so that no single device (IP address) is allowed more than one account at Ccom. And no grandfather clause either, if you already have twenty separate accounts, you get to keep only your oldest one. The rest are deleted. @TheCigarChick Is that something that you could look into?

VegasFrank

Hmmmm....

Maybe the real culprit is @Bob_Luken with his whacky conspiracy theories? Maybe it's @miller65rod and his wry smile. Maybe it's @peter4jc, who despises newbie questions (sorta like a "man's man" who secretly dresses in women's clothing). Of course, the silence on this thread from @Usaf06 is deafening. Anyone see @Far_North_64 lately? And nobody can trust a guy who pees in the shower when he's not even standing in it, right @Wylaff ? Of course, this is the kind of humor that @industMech and @patrickbrick both have....

TheCigarChick

@Bob_Luken - I hear you, but our internal IT Dept doesn't have any to with those settings, unfortunately. The Forum is dependent upon the settings offered by VanillaX, which is the company who owns the template (if you will), as well as the server on which the Forum functions.

cbuck

I love this place just the way it is!

Bob_Luken

I'm reminded of my first ever forum encounter asking a newbie question. It was over at "Puff" forum. I was not a fan of their dismissive attitude or jokes about my brand of cigar. By contrast the guys at Ccom were welcoming, so I stayed here. The current conditions here now seem worse by comparison. I can understand how a newb could come here and be put off by the reception here. I know we have a troll problem but I think a lot of true newbies are getting crapped on as a result. Not every dumb question deserves the reactions we are giving them.

ShawnOL

I propose we give them at least five honest, sincere answers before we crap on them.

VegasFrank

I only brought forth those names that were obvious trolls. I also was a newbie here once, and I also got crapped on or chided by the some people who are posting in this thread .

However, if you craft a username with a sexual innuendo, post a dirty butt digging picture in your first post, try to sell us something, or reference one of the long-standing games in your second post, you are obviously a troll. If not, you deserve to be hazed a little!

Bob_Luken

@VegasFrank said:
I only brought forth those names that were obvious trolls. I also was a newbie here once, and I also got crapped on or chided by the some people who are posting in this thread .

However, if you craft a username with a sexual innuendo, post a dirty butt digging picture in your first post, try to sell us something, or reference one of the long-standing games in your second post, you are obviously a troll. If not, you deserve to be hazed a little!

I am not innocent. I've done everything I'm talking about. And I'm not reformed either, but I mean what I say. And at the same time, I agree with you Frank, trolls need to be dealt with. I just don't like the collateral damage.

Bob_Luken

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@Bob_Luken - I hear you, but our internal IT Dept doesn't have any to with those settings, unfortunately. The Forum is dependent upon the settings offered by VanillaX, which is the company who owns the template (if you will), as well as the server on which the Forum functions.

@TheCigarChick Thanks, Lindsay for the quick reply and explanation. But now I have a long-shot follow up question,....

Even though you don't control it,... Can you spill the beans? Without giving away any personal info,.... Can you list the accounts that form groups of accounts that all log in from the same identical IP addresses?

Patrickbrick

I don’t have the patience or time, let alone the knowhow to create another email account to “troll” you fine folks. I don’t like to hide when I piss people off, I enjoy confrontation, and certainty am no stranger to both. Hence why my only friends are Bill and many of you, you all have figured that out and simply deal with me as I am; and for that, I thank you.

TheCigarChick

@Bob_Luken - That I don't know, as I'm unsure of how VanillaX operates from the IP side. Obviously we know every type of website (or forum) has bots that roam from time-to-time, so part of me wonders if there's a setting for the bot control software. (Let's hope that VanillaX has bot control software capabilities in the first place.)

I can tell you from an e-comm perspective that during these COVID times, bots are WILD, and they're everywhere, forcing the companies who make the software to eliminate them to work overtime. I'll reach out to VanillaX and see if there's something that could point us in the right direction.

Stay tuned...

Wylaff

VegasFrank

Whoever denied it supplied it ^

Patrickbrick

^^^^^ does anyone else want to hit the disagree button, just because?

Wylaff

@VegasFrank everyone pees in the shower. The trustworthy ones admit it.

Stubble

@Bob_Luken said:

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@Bob_Luken - I hear you, but our internal IT Dept doesn't have any to with those settings, unfortunately. The Forum is dependent upon the settings offered by VanillaX, which is the company who owns the template (if you will), as well as the server on which the Forum functions.

Even though you don't control it,... Can you spill the beans? Without giving away any personal info,.... Can you list the accounts that form groups of accounts that all log in from the same identical IP addresses?

Terrible idea. This would "out" some of the alliance creators that we have fun "trying" to figure out.

VegasFrank

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Amos_Umwhat

@Bob_Luken said:
I'm reminded of my first ever forum encounter asking a newbie question. It was over at "Puff" forum. I was not a fan of their dismissive attitude or jokes about my brand of cigar. By contrast the guys at Ccom were welcoming, so I stayed here. The current conditions here now seem worse by comparison. I can understand how a newb could come here and be put off by the reception here. I know we have a troll problem but I think a lot of true newbies are getting crapped on as a result. Not every dumb question deserves the reactions we are giving them.

Similar experience for me, here. One of my first few posts I offered the opinion that I didn't particularly care for a new Rocky Patel blend. (I think it was an RP) I don't recall the name of the cigar, but I do remember that it was discontinued fairly quickly. This was way back when there were only about 5 or 6 RP blends.

I believe I mentioned in the post that I'd liked the RP's I'd had so far, the Vintage 1990 and 1992, and was particularly fond of the Sun Grown. I was immediately attacked by several seasoned members as a troll who'd come here to bask in the attention derived from putting down a cigar blend. The "proof", as it were, was my low post-count. Which was perhaps, two.

I had no idea what they were talking about, I'd never been on any "forum", in fact, I'd only ever been on the internet at work, doing work-related things. I had no idea about post counts, what a "troll" was in this sense. Trolls lived under bridges in Nordic Fairy Tales.

At any rate, I asked about those things, and what they had to do with my opinion of cigars? Also, pointed out that I had a feeling I had been smoking cigars when many of those putting me down were in diapers, and stuck to my opinion of that cigar. Like @Patrickbrick , I rarely shrink from confrontation. Now that I think of it, I believe it was called Puro Cubano. I may be wrong. Now I'll have to go and look to see if RP still makes those.

So, I try hard to be patient with the newb questions. But, deep down, I'm still a grouchy old curmudgeon. Hopefully Lindsay will come up with a viable solution.

Personally, I'd like to know what's up with that Silverdak guy. Years of constant attendance here, not one post. Creepy weird.

deadman

I read the forum for years before I actually joined. Seemed to be a few that loved to stir **** up back then. Felt like I knew most of you when I finally did sign up.

Amos_Umwhat

RP now offers a Puro Cubano by Hamlet. It doesn't look like the same cigar. They're also up to more than 50 different cigars. Seems like sensory overload, to me. Their business, though. Whatever trips your triggers.

VegasFrank

Well, it seems to work for their bottom line...

webmost

@Bob_Luken said:
Speaking of conspiracies,... instead of automatically projecting all the mistrust we have for fakers onto EVERY newbie with a dumb question,....... why don't we conspire to figure out a less offensive way to welcome good legitimate newbies while at the same time weeding out the losers and fakers. Maybe something similar to the "good traders list"?

Also, is it possible for the IT department at Ccom to fix it so that no single device (IP address) is allowed more than one account at Ccom. And no grandfather clause either, if you already have twenty separate accounts, you get to keep only your oldest one. The rest are deleted. @TheCigarChick Is that something that you could look into?

Well, lessee... I may post from 6 devices myself, any given day, right here at home.
While traveling, I have posted from whoknowshowmany IPs.

It's one of those ideas that sounds real good if you say it fast and preface it with "why not...".

VegasFrank

We will take that as a confession!

Bob_Luken

@Stubble said:

@Bob_Luken said:

said:
@Bob_Luken - I hear you, but our internal IT Dept doesn't have any to with those settings, unfortunately. The Forum is dependent upon the settings offered by VanillaX, which is the company who owns the template (if you will), as well as the server on which the Forum functions.

Even though you don't control it,... Can you spill the beans? Without giving away any personal info,.... Can you list the accounts that form groups of accounts that all log in from the same identical IP addresses?

Terrible idea. This would "out" some of the alliance creators that we have fun "trying" to figure out.

VegasFrank

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