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I grabbed a handful of robusto sized cigars and some measured 18 grams and others 12 grams so figure 30 - 45 cigars per pound. So maybe a buck to almost two bucks per cigar.
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So by the time it gets to us, 3 to almost 4 bucks so the retailers and manufacturers can pocket some extra cash
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Premium cigars will find a carve out, they always do. Of course the hits keep coming and if they throw enough shyt at the wall, eventually some may stick. Hopefully, it can be dodged again.
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@Yakster said:
I grabbed a handful of robusto sized cigars and some measured 18 grams and others 12 grams so figure 30 - 45 cigars per pound. So maybe a buck to almost two bucks per cigar.
That’s if they only weigh the cigars, wouldn’t be surprised if the included the packaging. I’m pretty sure they include the packaging in drug seizures, drastically increasing the weight. @Stubble is this correct?
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I did include the cello in the weight. A bundle of 10 Umbagog Corona Gorda's weights 175.5 grams. A box is going to add significant weight but paper, plastic, and cello is pretty light. This probably won't even pass anyway and who knows how they'll determine the weight of the cigar, knowing Congress, it won't make any sense.
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@Yakster said:
I grabbed a handful of robusto sized cigars and some measured 18 grams and others 12 grams so figure 30 - 45 cigars per pound. So maybe a buck to almost two bucks per cigar.
That’s if they only weigh the cigars, wouldn’t be surprised if the included the packaging. I’m pretty sure they include the packaging in drug seizures, drastically increasing the weight. @Stubble is this correct?
Initial charges, yes. Everything got sent to a lab where it was unwrapped and weighed again. AUSA would then amend net weight vs gross weight.
@Yakster said:
I grabbed a handful of robusto sized cigars and some measured 18 grams and others 12 grams so figure 30 - 45 cigars per pound. So maybe a buck to almost two bucks per cigar.
That’s if they only weigh the cigars, wouldn’t be surprised if the included the packaging. I’m pretty sure they include the packaging in drug seizures, drastically increasing the weight. @Stubble is this correct?
Initial charges, yes. Everything got sent to a lab where it was unwrapped and weighed again. AUSA would then amend net weight vs gross weight.
Do they still estimate value of a bust by breaking it down to the smallest street value? IE A ton bust of MJ, gets it's value estimated as single joints.
Don't let the wife know what you spend on guns, ammo or cigars.
@Yakster said:
I grabbed a handful of robusto sized cigars and some measured 18 grams and others 12 grams so figure 30 - 45 cigars per pound. So maybe a buck to almost two bucks per cigar.
That’s if they only weigh the cigars, wouldn’t be surprised if the included the packaging. I’m pretty sure they include the packaging in drug seizures, drastically increasing the weight. @Stubble is this correct?
Initial charges, yes. Everything got sent to a lab where it was unwrapped and weighed again. AUSA would then amend net weight vs gross weight.
Do they still estimate value of a bust by breaking it down to the smallest street value? IE A ton bust of MJ, gets it's value estimated as single joints.
I don't know what they are doing now. We had set amounts per pound, which was dumb as it did not account for purity. A pound of ditch weed was the same as a pound of hydroponic...we never estimated by a singular dosage. Always by weight.
“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)
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"America is unique in that it has no distinct indigenous criminal class. Well, except for Congress." -- Mark Twain
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
50 bucks a pound. How many cigars in a pound?
I grabbed a handful of robusto sized cigars and some measured 18 grams and others 12 grams so figure 30 - 45 cigars per pound. So maybe a buck to almost two bucks per cigar.
So by the time it gets to us, 3 to almost 4 bucks so the retailers and manufacturers can pocket some extra cash
That's not how it works.
Premium cigars will find a carve out, they always do. Of course the hits keep coming and if they throw enough shyt at the wall, eventually some may stick. Hopefully, it can be dodged again.
The purpose of sin tax is tax. The excuse for sin tax is sin.
That’s if they only weigh the cigars, wouldn’t be surprised if the included the packaging. I’m pretty sure they include the packaging in drug seizures, drastically increasing the weight. @Stubble is this correct?
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Time to start smoking bundles
I did include the cello in the weight. A bundle of 10 Umbagog Corona Gorda's weights 175.5 grams. A box is going to add significant weight but paper, plastic, and cello is pretty light. This probably won't even pass anyway and who knows how they'll determine the weight of the cigar, knowing Congress, it won't make any sense.
Initial charges, yes. Everything got sent to a lab where it was unwrapped and weighed again. AUSA would then amend net weight vs gross weight.
Thank you sir.
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Do they still estimate value of a bust by breaking it down to the smallest street value? IE A ton bust of MJ, gets it's value estimated as single joints.
Don't let the wife know what you spend on guns, ammo or cigars.
I don't know what they are doing now. We had set amounts per pound, which was dumb as it did not account for purity. A pound of ditch weed was the same as a pound of hydroponic...we never estimated by a singular dosage. Always by weight.
They are at it again.
https://halfwheel.com/house-tax-bill-includes-massive-cigar-tax-increases/400622/
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