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Just how old IS that tobacco anyway?

EllenJEllenJ Posts: 16

If a cigar is released in 2010 and the product description says the tobacco is from the 2005 harvest, and they're still making this cigar in 2024, are they still using 2005 tobacco? Or just 5-year-old (2019 crop)? Of course I'm not counting the fact that they don't use up all the crop in a single year. I'm just wondering if the crop years given in the descriptions have any real significance when you're buying these cigars online twenty years later.

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  • silvermousesilvermouse Posts: 21,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have wondered that too.

  • peter4jcpeter4jc Posts: 16,672 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess;
    It would depend on the amount of tobacco originally on hand and the number of that cigar made/sold. I imagine some of the bigger growers like Plasencia may have kept enough of a given crop to pull it off. But now that I think of it, it would mean keeping enough of every component of the cigar on hand. So, my guess is that they are not the same cigars 10, 15, or 20 years later.
    I have heard blenders state that one of the most difficult parts of their job is keeping a cigar tasting the same when the supply of one or more tobaccos runs out, so I'd wager every cigar as old as you're talking about is using different tobacco. If we can't tell when it's been changed, huge kudos to the blender.

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  • EllenJEllenJ Posts: 16

    Thanks for the instant response! I tend to feel the same way, which is why I have such awesome respect for such master blenders as Kelner, Fuego, Fores, et al.

  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This kind of question makes me wish @kuzi16 still came around. He'd probably know.

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  • VisionVision Posts: 8,612 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Amos_Umwhat said:
    This kind of question makes me wish @kuzi16 still came around. He'd probably know.

    But you can't smoke it past the band.....

  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess a great example of this is/was the Gran Habano Vintage. The first couple years were outstanding. I remember telling my wife "It's like I'm getting a ten dollar cigar for $1.85!". Ten dollars was about my limit back then, and considered a high price by most. Sigh.

    At any rate, a couple years in and I got a bundle that was way sub-par. I thought I'd just gotten a bad batch or something, and bought a few more over the next year hoping for a return to the original. It never happened.

    Do they still make them? I don't know, but the price would have to be $1.85 for me to try one.

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  • CAcigarguy007CAcigarguy007 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Amos_Umwhat said:
    I guess a great example of this is/was the Gran Habano Vintage. The first couple years were outstanding. I remember telling my wife "It's like I'm getting a ten dollar cigar for $1.85!". Ten dollars was about my limit back then, and considered a high price by most. Sigh.

    At any rate, a couple years in and I got a bundle that was way sub-par. I thought I'd just gotten a bad batch or something, and bought a few more over the next year hoping for a return to the original. It never happened.

    Do they still make them? I don't know, but the price would have to be $1.85 for me to try one.

    This reminded me when AJ did the label and box change over to brown, from red (after the threat of the whole brands in market scheme), for the New World Puro Especial and they were blowing them out for $2 per. I bought some but should have bought much more. That’s probably one of the best buying opportunities I’ve seen period and I just shake my head whenever I smoke one now and think “what a putz!”. 😭

  • CAcigarguy007CAcigarguy007 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh, and I also think that they ran out of wrappers and it wasn’t just about the box/label continuity because the red label ones had much darker wrappers and are full bodied eat a meal first cigars and the new brown label was as described as medium bodied and has lighter wrappers.

  • VegasFrankVegasFrank Posts: 18,333 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 28

    The new ones are not medium bodied. they're full for sure.

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  • Rdp77Rdp77 Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VegasFrank said:
    The new ones are not medium bodied. they're full for sure.

    Like you would know about an AJ cigar 🙄

  • VegasFrankVegasFrank Posts: 18,333 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 28

    @Rdp77 said:

    @VegasFrank said:
    The new ones are not medium bodied. they're full for sure.

    Like you would know about an AJ cigar 🙄

    Yeah you know me. Just guessing.

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