Cellaring
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Ok bear with me here. I’ve amassed a small array of tobacco. Approximately, 150 jars of tobacco I’ve purchased and from generous gifting from y’all on this forum. Again thank you! @Hawks @Amos_Umwhat @Stubble @Rdp77
All my opened tobacco has been jarred as well as my tobacco that was vacuum sealed in Mylar bags. Packed like a pipe with a small amount of space at the top and sealed tightly. My unopened tobacco remains in the original tins.
Everything is stored in climate controlled office with no direct sunlight. Everything is labeled and dated accordingly. Stored in dark office except when using my office.
First off what do you guys on this forum do for your cellaring process? Anyone go further by adding your jars to a tuppedore or is that overkill? Do you keep your aged tobacco in complete darkness? How often do you check lid tightness? Etc etc. Appreciate your input.
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The only other thing that I do is vacuum seal tins that have twist or pry off lids. They can lose vacuum so I just bag tin and all and seal it.
Apparently I haven’t sent you tobacco. On the To Do list
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I have a cheap vacuum sealer for the jars I use. I dig it. Food saver on the list next. Plan on doing what @Rdp77 does. Other than that, they sit until I get a notion to smoke 'em.
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Some people have noticed their tins rusting when they're vacuum sealed in Mylar, any moisture from the tobacco that gets out will be trapped in the bag.
Had semi high hopes but alas, treasure is plundered. Upon opening, no pop, the aroma was promising. First touch, I knew the treasure was lost. Drier than dry to the touch. Emptied the contents into a large ziplock bag with a boveda. I know the oils are long gone but perhaps someone from the pipe club might want to try it. This was a large tin of 01/1990 Anatolian Mystique, blended??? by Irwin J. Friedman in Berkeley, CA. I’m going to try it and see what happens.
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Looks like Paper can
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It'll be fine once the swelling goes down.
Lid, edges and bottom were metal. The body seemed to be spiraled paper with a shiny interior surface. Kinda like the old oil cans you would puncture with the metal spout.
The good news is I didn’t pay a dime for it. A buddy asked me if I wanted to try to bring it back to life if it hade pin holes and was dry. I told him that if the oils were gone, it’s probably not even worth smoking. However, I put some Boveda’s in a bag and Ziploc it with the tobacco so if anybody wants to try it, they’re more than welcome. I’m going to smoke some as is and then wait a week or two to see if it gains any moisture from the Boveda’s and try it again.
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Put a pinch or two in a bowl, then cover the bowl with a very damp paper towel or cloth for 30-45 minutes. Don't allow the damp cloth to touch the tobacco....
That has dried up a little more than you think. You better have a one hitter
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I purchased some 1/2 lb bags of tobacco in what look like the heavy mylar bags vacuum packed coffee comes in. These have the fitting used to pull the vacuum like the coffee bags. I didnt buy this to cellar but smoke over the next couple years.
Whats the thought, jar immediately or jar over the next couple years as I open the bags to smoke?
Those fittings on coffee bags are not for vacuum sealing but are one-way valves designed to let any CO2 gas that builds up escape. A photo would help me confirm, but those one-way valves are not perfect so I'd probably opt for jarring up the tobacco or putting them in Mylar bags without a valve. I buy gusseted 7 mil Mylar bags from TopMylar.com (aka Pleasant Grove Farm) or from the same source on Amazon, but with Mylar you want to avoid folding the bags or you can delaminate the layers and create pinholes. Canning Jars, if you have the room for them, are probably easier.
I'd opt to take care of it now or over the next few months rather than wait.
I have a mix of Mylar bags and jars.
Taping over the valve may be good enough, at least for the short term.
Do the mylar pouches work better than freezer ziplocs?
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About the size of a dime with little perceptible thickness over the thickness of the bag. You are correct, a vent. When I squeeze the bag air comes out.
A pound of any pipe tobacco is quite a bit for one blend. I’m guessing you’ll end up cellaring some of it whether intentionally or not. I’d go ahead and pack it up like I was planning on having it awhile.
Those freezer Ziplocs are not really airtight, a 7 mil Mylar will far outperform one of those.
Yup, been making composite cans like that for many years...
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It'll be fine once the swelling goes down.
Found this on Amazon.
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No "zip lock" will require a heat sealer....one time use?
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I bought some of these a while back. Seem functional
I use jars. Great seal. No worries. Plus I like to look at the tobacco and see how they are doing. Yes weird.
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I keep the small 1-2 oz sample bags and smaller tins in the bags. Larger amounts in the jars.
Jars are also easy to share at pipe club meetings. Usually, I will copy the label and stick it to the jar. I too, use Mylar bags for smaller amounts. Sometimes, with older round tins and tins with a plastic lid, I will stick a small boveda in there. Square tins I jar it up.
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I prefer 7 mil per side, those are only 4.3 mil.
Yup. I've been buying tobacco in large bags. Will put about 2-4oz in a jar to smoke and heat seal the rest. Can be resealed again, just shorter.
I bought a 16oz bag of coffee tobacco, already have 6-7oz in jars to smoke. That bag will be sealed in mylar for extra sealing. Will remove some of the air before sealing.
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I sealed those 3 1lb bags in mylar. The bags I used are 5mil per layer. Had to heatseal about 6 times each to get a good seal. Still getting the hang of using the heatsealer.
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@Yakster , I noticed you're using pleated bottom mylar bags. Which end is open to be sealed?
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With the gusseted bags you can heat seal above the zip closure for long term storage.
I see. Thanks.
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