Cigars came in boxes of 25!
jw517
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Way back when,I always saw cigars sold in boxes of 25,a pak of 5, or singles. I know the answer to this question,but it just hurts me in my gizzard. Why do they have to mess with the counts all the time? Now you see box of 18. Pak of 15. Box of 21! Do they really think we don't get the fact they are hiding the price. Making it hard to compare prices. Just selling less for more! Yes ,this might be a dumb thread but it pisses me off a little. I'll buy 25! Signed: Grumpy Old Man
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I refuse to post in dumb threads."I could've had a Mi Querida!" Nick Bardis3
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Why,I post in yours?5
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Therefore...peter4jc said:I refuse to post in dumb threads.I know, You're a big dog and I'm on the list.
Let's eat, GrandMa. / Let's eat GrandMa. -- Punctuation saves livesIt'll be fine once the swelling goes down.
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Come on,come on! You know you want to! Ahhhhhh HaHaHaHa!1
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I'm going to go get a 9 pak of beer now. And a pak of 17 cigarettes for my brother!
ok,fine! I'll just sit here all alone thinking back to when my 6th grade teacher told me there are no dumb questions. Tear,tear.2 -
"I could've had a Mi Querida!" Nick Bardis1 -
It's nothing more than a conspiracy by the same people that package hot dogs in packs of 10 but hot dog buns in packs of 8."I could've had a Mi Querida!" Nick Bardis8
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This should really be redirected to the "things I hate" discussion. Remember the good old days when there was just one discussion per topic
“Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman – or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle.” – George Burns1 -
Oh man,I forgot about the dog/bun thing. "Dirty pups"!0
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Oh look! Something shiny!"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain3
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Just spitballing here: Might just be the size box they have versus the size cigars they make.
I roll cigars. When I find a blend good enough to stash, I will store a batch in a cigar box and stuff the box in a giant coolidor to age. I get the boxes for a buck apiece from the local cigar store. I'll get cedar boxes that have a hinged lid with a clasp and a **** to seal the deal. I root round my shelf of boxes and grab one I like, then I see how many gars will fit. Right now, for instance, I'm boxing up a stash of coronas. One leaf Mata Fina, two leaves Vuelta Abajo seco, Dominican Olor binder, w/ Criollo wrapper, makes a gar about 5 1/2" x 43 rg. Nice little smoke with plenty volume, lasts about an hour & a half & up to two hours. I chose a nice little Nat Sherman Host Selection Hamilton box that I like. Those Nats came 5 1/2" x 42 rg, 25 to the box. I find I can fit 24 of mine in this box, four layers of six, if I stagger the layers a bit. I could jam 28 in there, four layers of seven, but they'd wind up slightly box pressed. The standard 20 would leave a gap either way. Some store bought boxes, you'll see a chunk of cedar to correct the count. So here's my point: Nat might order up, say, twenty thousand boxes of the precise size to hold robustos, but the box factory sends him slightly the wrong size. He punts. Or he might order 20k boxes to hold 20 robustos each, use 10k, and put the rest of his boxes to work on coronas. There's any number of things might go into it.
Division solves for price per in any case.
FX Smith's Sons still packs fifty to a box. Half-wheels and wheels used to be a thing; I never see them packed that way nowadays. I dunno that there's a standard. Topper has boxes of 30 -- dunno anyone else who does. Frequently, you'll see ads that look like a dynamite deal ... then you discover it's for boxes of ten. Here's an old framed label for Blue Ribbon cigars. FX've been making those for like 130 years. The label used to go round a modest wheel of cigars -- I dunno how many -- that were packed in cans like cookie tins, label pasted round it:
Two gars for 15 cents. Can't beat that.“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)
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That's what I was crying about! I see a good deal and then see its 15 cigars or 18 or 10. The only 50 boxes I've seen are the machine made or the cazadores.0
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Illusione Rothschilds come in a box of 504
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I think Davis is on the right track with his idea of boxes coming to the factory in a size that won't accommodate all vitolas. It never dawned on me that those occasional blocks of cedar we find in some boxes might be a result of that."I could've had a Mi Querida!" Nick Bardis0
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You kidding right? They come printed ya know.peter4jc said:I think Davis is on the right track with his idea of boxes coming to the factory in a size that won't accommodate all vitolas. It never dawned on me that those occasional blocks of cedar we find in some boxes might be a result of that.-1 -
Not to change the subject but,anyone who can guess the exact number of tobacco seeds in this pint jar will win a half teaspoon of seed! I don't know how many so I'll have to count them.
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4,512,362 and a speck of beetle poop.“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)
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Wow I didn't know tobacco seeds were so small. Hows the germination on them and where did you buy them? Been thinking about growing some
My guess is 3,987,258
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I took them from the plants I grew. Germination was 95 percent . I'm testing them again as we speak. They came from these.
WaterNerd said:Wow I didn't know tobacco seeds were so small. Hows the germination on them and where did you buy them? Been thinking about growing some
My guess is 3,987,2582 -
got to be enough to plant 2 square miles I'd guess.1
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@WaterNerd ; I grew some CT shade leaves last season.WaterNerd said:Wow I didn't know tobacco seeds were so small. Hows the germination on them and where did you buy them? Been thinking about growing some
My guess is 3,987,258
Germination was fairly decent but they are finicky little seedlings.
Overall the plants did pretty well and topped out around 6 feet tall.
Unfortunately I didn't end up keeping any leaves because something (looked like aphids) just devoured the leaves when we were away on vacation.
I ordered mine here --- http://www.victoryseeds.com/tobacco.html.
Pretty sure I have some left. Let me know if you're interested, I'll check next week and if so, I can certainly send you some.

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Aphids are a big problem! I took the garden hose and sprayed them off the underside of every leaf. It was hell! I then used a safe pesticide. This was long before harvest! It's amazing a insect could survive eating nicotine like that.0
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silvermouse said:got to be enough to plant 2 square miles I'd guess.
Maybe the whole state!
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Thanks for the info guys! Plants look great. Never seen them flower before. Very cool.
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They are pretty flowers!1
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Well poop.jw517 said:
You almost won,but it was aphid poop.webmost said:4,512,362 and a speck of beetle poop.
“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)
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I bought two boxes of Big Paybacks on different occasions --- fifty apiece.silvermouse said:Illusione Rothschilds come in a box of 50
Love those boxes. Absolutely the best cedar flanges I've seen. Inch and a quarter high.“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)
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