Real or copy

KenpoKnight
KenpoKnight Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 2019 in General Discussion
Hi Everyone, 

I was given these at Knights meeting tonight. One of the guys just got back from the Dominican.  He said the small one was rolled by a guy and the other came from a humidor.  Just curious what you all thought.  No matter what I’m going to be smoking and enjoying both sometime lol.  

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  • VegasFrank
    VegasFrank Posts: 20,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No pic?  I don't see them....
    @ScotchnSmoke sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones. 
  • KenpoKnight
    KenpoKnight Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry edited with pics!
  • ShawnOL
    ShawnOL Posts: 13,159 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If that's a fake, they did a real good job on the band.

    Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.

  • TNBigfoot68
    TNBigfoot68 Posts: 2,810 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Either way, light it.  Awesome
    I was born a fool, and just got bigger!
  • KenpoKnight
    KenpoKnight Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TNBigfoot68 said:
    Either way, light it.  Awesome
    Thanks it was a really cool surprise!  
  • 0patience
    0patience Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The cap is a bit off for a Cohiba.
    Could have been a bad day for a roller, but not likely. 



    In Fumo Pax
    Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.

    Wylaff said:
    Atmospheric pressure and crap.
  • VegasFrank
    VegasFrank Posts: 20,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I vote smoke it.
    @ScotchnSmoke sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones. 
  • miller65rod
    miller65rod Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2019
    Not even close. Fake

    I will just point of the obvious for those who may be deceived.

    No Triple cap. Immediate toss

    Look at the "C" in Cuba

    Look at the "H" in Habana

    Look at the Taino Indian Head

    Look at the flaking of the embossed gold around borders

    Notice the hologram area is not a hologram print

    Gold border touching squares

    Non crisp cut on the bottom of the band. Actually can see a dull cut with danglers.

    Measure the cigar and ring gauge as well. Looks like a Faubosto should measure
    50 x 124 (4⅞″)

    Just a few imperfections that confirm it is fake

    Real band below


    Free Cuba
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  • danielzreyes
    danielzreyes Posts: 8,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not genuine. 
    Fellow BOTLs, if we know it's an obvious fake dont encouragement them to "smoke it anyways".  That's the worst advice you can give them. 
    "It's plume, bro. Nothing to worry about. Got any Opus?" The suppose to be DZR
  • BKDog
    BKDog Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, at least it's a genuine fake. :D
    "Love is a dung heap, Betty and I am but a c.o.c.k. that climbs upon it to crow."
  • firehouseguy
    firehouseguy Posts: 996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Smoke YOUR cigars! They are yours enjoy them. There are tons of folks here that smoke stuff I wouldn’t touch and I’m sure I smoke stuff they wouldn’t like. Unless these yahoos are going to start supplying all of your cigars for free don’t sweat it.
    Cigars were made to be smoked, whiskey was made to be drank and women were made to be loved. The only thing I try to age is myself. 
  • KenpoKnight
    KenpoKnight Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for all the input!  That’s pretty good to know what to look for in the future.   Any harm or risk for smoking a knockoff?  
  • danielzreyes
    danielzreyes Posts: 8,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    KenpoKnight said:
    Thanks for all the input!  That’s pretty good to know what to look for in the future.   Any harm or risk for smoking a knockoff?  
    Do you like crabs? Not the seafood kind. If you do ...
    "smoke it anyways".
    "It's plume, bro. Nothing to worry about. Got any Opus?" The suppose to be DZR
  • Wylaff
    Wylaff Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    KenpoKnight said:
    Thanks for all the input!  That’s pretty good to know what to look for in the future.   Any harm or risk for smoking a knockoff?  
    On the worst end of things they have been found to contain floor sweepings (even bits of plastic debris), but most often it is just a sub-par cigar made to look like a Cohiba. It's your call really.
    "Cooking isn't about struggling; It's about pleasure. It's like sǝx, with a wider variety of sauces."

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  • peter4jc
    peter4jc Posts: 18,100 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Give it to Mikey, he'll smoke anything.
    "I could've had a Mi Querida!"   Nick Bardis
  • silvermouse
    silvermouse Posts: 23,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    for the youngsters on the forum who might miss Peter's comment:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLQ0LZSnJFE
  • ShawnOL
    ShawnOL Posts: 13,159 ✭✭✭✭✭
    miller65rod said:
    Not even close. Fake

    I will just point of the obvious for those who may be deceived.

    No Triple cap. Immediate toss

    Look at the "C" in Cuba

    Look at the "H" in Habana

    Look at the Taino Indian Head

    Look at the flaking of the embossed gold around borders

    Notice the hologram area is not a hologram print

    Gold border touching squares

    Non crisp cut on the bottom of the band. Actually can see a dull cut with danglers.

    Measure the cigar and ring gauge as well. Looks like a Faubosto should measure
    50 x 124 (4⅞″)

    Just a few imperfections that confirm it is fake

    Real band below



    I guess when looking at both there is a huge difference.  You pay better attention to detail than I do.

    Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.

  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 9,805 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wylaff said:
    KenpoKnight said:
    Thanks for all the input!  That’s pretty good to know what to look for in the future.   Any harm or risk for smoking a knockoff?  
    On the worst end of things they have been found to contain floor sweepings (even bits of plastic debris), but most often it is just a sub-par cigar made to look like a Cohiba. It's your call really.
    I once received a well-intentioned gift of 5 plastic wrapped fake Cohibas from someone vacationing in the Caribbean.  While I'm sure they were fake, they were pretty good cigars. 

    Of course, some people like the smell of roasted toe nails in the morning.

    Just kidding.  I would look it over carefully, then if it seemed OK, I'd smoke it.  
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  • KenpoKnight
    KenpoKnight Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks everyone for the input.  I’m only halfway freaked out now lol. Can’t be worse than a flavored short filler Tatiana. 
  • danielzreyes
    danielzreyes Posts: 8,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    https://forum.cigar.com/discussion/852595/the-le-semi-maduro-shaggyfooted-isom-cohiba-review
    "It's plume, bro. Nothing to worry about. Got any Opus?" The suppose to be DZR
  • KenpoKnight
    KenpoKnight Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ^^^^That is pretty funny.  I’ve decided to dissect it. After reading some comments on here and watching the cigar obsession videos with all the junk in them, I want to stay clear of it.  After looking closer I found what looks to be a cigar beetle hole?  I kept it in a ziplock away from all my others just in case. I will share the results of the dissection.  Probably get around to it tomorrow evening.

  • KenpoKnight
    KenpoKnight Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Okay here is the dissection for your viewing pleasure.

  • 0patience
    0patience Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's what you would call "short filler".
     :s 
    In Fumo Pax
    Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.

    Wylaff said:
    Atmospheric pressure and crap.
  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 9,805 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Never again will I "just smoke" another fauxhiba.  Bleah!
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  • KenpoKnight
    KenpoKnight Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Amos_Umwhat same here!
  • VegasFrank
    VegasFrank Posts: 20,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What did you do with all of the spiderwebs and toenails?
    @ScotchnSmoke sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones. 
  • danielzreyes
    danielzreyes Posts: 8,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    but "smoke it anyways"
    "It's plume, bro. Nothing to worry about. Got any Opus?" The suppose to be DZR
  • Bob_Luken
    Bob_Luken Posts: 11,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I ain't smokin nothin with eveidence of cuban fakery or bugs. You had both. Thanks for the autopsy. 

    Speaking of smoking cigars with bugs in them. One time I got this terrible brown wet "tar buildup" coming out from the head of my cigar, almost drippy. Never had that experience before or since. My best guess is I was smoking lots of beetle larvae that day. I don't recall a terrible taste, just a horrible sight to see.   

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