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Good evening everyone! SLR Regios with a RRG&C.1
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Still having summer days this fall. 88°.
Howdy all. Been getting back into my firearms lately particularly combustible black powder cartridges.0 -
Second Amendment 🔫cigarbreath said:Still having summer days this fall. 88°.
Howdy all. Been getting back into my firearms lately particularly combustible black powder cartridges.0 -
Indeed. Haven’t gone ballistic on anyone - yet.Oyam123 said:
Second Amendment 🔫cigarbreath said:Still having summer days this fall. 88°.
Howdy all. Been getting back into my firearms lately particularly combustible black powder cartridges.0 -
2nd Amendment was written in 1789. Things have changed a little bit since then. The US Constitution is a living document that was meant to be adapted as needed.
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Oh, and good evening everyone! JLP Nacionales with a RRG&C.
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Good evening everyone! Mac Gold Label Robo with a RRG&C.
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If anyone is interested, the Cubao is back. Not an Espinosa and Ortega Cubao, just Ortega Cubao. Saw it on the Jam earlier today, the copy claimed it was the same blend as the original, not sure if I believe that. Grabbed a 5er to try though, so I'll see. Still have 4 of the original #4s and 2 #7s, something to compare to these new ones.
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CUBAO !0
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It is very true...it needs to be "adapted" to include modern day firearms - just as the First Amendment needs to be "adapted" to include the Internet...
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No adaptation is necessary or warranted. You still have your first amendment rights on the internet. If the founders wanted the constitution and its protections changed it would clearly state "as proscribed by law" so it could be changed on a whim by whoever controlled the legislature at any given time. Instead, changes to the document have to go through such an arduous amount of red tape (constitutional convention) that it is rarely amended.
The founders were some of the smartest and best educated men of their time. They wrote that document so well it still stands as the law of the land regardless how hard the socialists try.
I think any more discussion on this topic should be in a constitution/2A thread in the non-cigar related section.Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
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That was my point...the right doesn't change, nor should it...it is the tools that change over time...
They were definitely some of the most intelligent individuals of any time.0 -
...HaPPy ThirsTday...
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Nice, thanks TD0
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"A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a Free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed". You can't pick and choose, you need to read that "well-regulated Militia" part too.ShawnOL said:No adaptation is necessary or warranted. You still have your first amendment rights on the internet. If the founders wanted the constitution and its protections changed it would clearly state "as proscribed by law" so it could be changed on a whim by whoever controlled the legislature at any given time. Instead, changes to the document have to go through such an arduous amount of red tape (constitutional convention) that it is rarely amended.
The founders were some of the smartest and best educated men of their time. They wrote that document so well it still stands as the law of the land regardless how hard the socialists try.
I think any more discussion on this topic should be in a constitution/2A thread in the non-cigar related section.
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Oh, and good evening everyone! Mac Cafe HP with a RRG&C.
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I believe the Militia was everyone in that time. It was also a good cigar a few years ago.
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"A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a Free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed". You can't pick and choose, you need to read that "well-regulated Militia" part too.ShawnOL said:No adaptation is necessary or warranted. You still have your first amendment rights on the internet. If the founders wanted the constitution and its protections changed it would clearly state "as proscribed by law" so it could be changed on a whim by whoever controlled the legislature at any given time. Instead, changes to the document have to go through such an arduous amount of red tape (constitutional convention) that it is rarely amended.
The founders were some of the smartest and best educated men of their time. They wrote that document so well it still stands as the law of the land regardless how hard the socialists try.
I think any more discussion on this topic should be in a constitution/2A thread in the non-cigar related section.
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Yes, well regulated, meaning properly working, functioning as it should be. As in, a well regulated clock or well regulated sights. They didn't use the term regulated to mean government regulations or they would have phrased it as "proscribed by law". The 2A is a restraint against the government, not the people. Read the other original amendments. Not one of them is meant, or worded, as to restrain the people. Its the Bill of Rights, not Bill of Regulations or Bill of Privileges. These Rights were so important to the people of the time that the states would not ratify the constitution unless these rights were added. The 2A comes in second only to the right to worship, gather and speak freely.kckasper said:
"A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a Free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed". You can't pick and choose, you need to read that "well-regulated Militia" part too.ShawnOL said:No adaptation is necessary or warranted. You still have your first amendment rights on the internet. If the founders wanted the constitution and its protections changed it would clearly state "as proscribed by law" so it could be changed on a whim by whoever controlled the legislature at any given time. Instead, changes to the document have to go through such an arduous amount of red tape (constitutional convention) that it is rarely amended.
The founders were some of the smartest and best educated men of their time. They wrote that document so well it still stands as the law of the land regardless how hard the socialists try.
I think any more discussion on this topic should be in a constitution/2A thread in the non-cigar related section.
The 2A created a well armed civilian population (militia) able to defeat any army, even our own. Freedom was of the utmost concern to the founders, more so than "safety". The militia is the 4th estate, the ultimate " check and balance" to the other three.
Flintlocks weren't the only Arms of the times, google the Puckle gun. The founders used the term arms to mean all arms or they would have specifically stated which kinds of arms were protected. As I said earlier, these guys weren't stupid.Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
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CB now see what you started!2
