Partagas 150 and Padron Millennium maduro wrapper

mropusx · January 26

Hello, does anyone have any Partagas 150s for sale?

Rdp77 · January 26

Anyone else wanna take this one?

Vision · January 26

If you can find them on auction sites specializing in rare and antique cigars I would expect to pay $300+ for the 150s and $500-$1000 plus a testiclę for the Padron. Good luck.

One is 30 years out of production and the other 25…..

peter4jc · January 26

@mropusx said:
Hello, does anyone have any Partagas 150s for sale?

I have a box and a half of each of those.

But I don't smoke them. I use them to light my good cigars, like my Gurkhas.

Itsfine · January 27

@mropusx said:
Hello, does anyone have any Partagas 150s for sale?

Send me your address. I have 4 that I'll send you.

mropusx · January 28

I asked about Partagas 150s — a documented anniversary release that collectors preserve, study, and actually respect. I didn’t ask for a campfire story. I spent a career where we learned pretty early that when a man turns history into kindling, it usually isn’t history he’s trying to impress you with.

Saying you use Partagas 150s to light your ‘good cigars’ doesn’t insult the 150s. It just puts a spotlight on the ‘good cigars.’ And if those good cigars are Gurkhas, that explains the need for accelerants. In most cigar lounges, Gurkha is what you buy when you want a lot of packaging, a dramatic backstory, and a pleasant surprise if it actually smokes well. That’s not elitism — that’s just decades of shared experience.

Down South we call this politely: when a man brags about what he burns, he usually isn’t bragging about what he owns. Around serious collectors, cigars like the 150s aren’t punchlines. They’re artifacts. Some of us are here to talk provenance and availability. Others seem to be here to perform. Both are fine. Only one belongs in this thread. Collectors talk provenance. Pyromaniacs talk fuel.

So if you truly have Partagas 150s and something useful to add, I’m listening. If all you have is a lighter and a sense of humor, enjoy the show. I’m here for cigars.

Rdp77 · January 28

@mropusx said:

Fuente is what you buy when you want a lot of packaging, a dramatic backstory,

I fixed it for you.
The punchline isn’t the cigars you asked about. It’s the fact that you came into a forum first thing wanting to buy or sell something. No introduction, no reading the room. Just “Opus Opus Opus”.

Yeah, there are some collectors here, and I know there are some 150s here. Will you ever see them or even know who has them? Probably not. Because the people that are truly here for cigars and the comradery that accompanies them tend to not have the need to talk about “provenance and availability “

Vision · January 28

Is this ChatGPT trolling us?

Itsfine · January 28

@mropusx said:

Some of us are here to talk provenance and availability. Others seem to be here to perform. Both are fine. Only one belongs in this thread. Collectors talk provenance. Pyromaniacs talk fuel.

The balls on this guy! 😂 The guy who's been here for 5 minutes is telling us why "some of us" are here.

I even offered him four of those partagas and nary a response. However, if you're just going to "study" them, you can forget it. Cigars are meant to be smoked.

This is obviously Steve or Ross. Or Daniel. Or Peter. Or Nick or Patrick. Or someone who has a beef with Pete and is using chat GPT to troll him. No fine Southern gentleman who wants to preserve and study elitist cigars is going to find a forum, derive the name of " Mr opus x," and then let the first words out of his scum hole be a request of what we can do for him.

Out with it, young man. Show your face.

Vision · January 28

For a moment, I thought I was on hidden camera. This can’t be real, can it?

Amos_Umwhat · January 28

@Itsfine said:

@mropusx said:

Some of us are here to talk provenance and availability. Others seem to be here to perform. Both are fine. Only one belongs in this thread. Collectors talk provenance. Pyromaniacs talk fuel.

The balls on this guy! 😂 The guy who's been here for 5 minutes is telling us why "some of us" are here.

I even offered him four of those partagas and nary a response. However, if you're just going to "study" them, you can forget it. Cigars are meant to be smoked.

This is obviously Steve or Ross. Or Daniel. Or Peter. Or Nick or Patrick. Or someone who has a beef with Pete and is using chat GPT to troll him. No fine Southern gentleman who wants to preserve and study elitist cigars is going to find a forum, derive the name of " Mr opus x," and then let the first words out of his scum hole be a request of what we can do for him.

Out with it, young man. Show your face.

I can eliminate this Steve from the list. I have no current beef with Pete, when I do it will be dealt with in a straightforward manner and then let bygones be bygones. No back door games from me. Also, I've never knowingly used ChatGPT for anything at all.

With that said, MropusX, we get a lot of bozos here making all kinds of claims and requests. In the past I have often suspected that these are ATF agents trying to catch someone with contraband. Whatever. It gets old and we get jaded and it tends to bring out the smartass in many of us. Sometimes I think we run off legitimate seekers, that's our fault. Mostly.

Time will tell. We're just a bunch of guys that like smoking cigars, and pipes. That's it.

As for the "high end" stuff, well, I am an Opus X fan myself, probably have about 15 or 20 on hand, have posted my picture on here standing with Arturo Fuente Jr in his shop in Ybor City, and love Fuentes cigars. The past couple of years seem not to have been their best, I'm guessing due to factory fires etc. I also love Padron, and Davidoff, but don't purchase as many. I've been contemplating smoking a "Year of the Snake" Davidoff, but it's probably my only one of those. It will be soon, as @Itsfine said, they're meant to be smoked. I shall do so when I feel the time is right.

My point here is that we're here to share information about what we're smoking, what we're doing in our lives, and just generally enjoy talking to an eclectic group of people that also enjoy life and a good cigar. We don't exist to fulfill others wishes and desires, or to entertain them.

Try just joining in the conversations, have fun. But if stirring up schidt is your idea of fun, feel free to step along.

Itsfine · January 28

@Amos_Umwhat said:

@Itsfine said:

@mropusx said:

Some of us are here to talk provenance and availability. Others seem to be here to perform. Both are fine. Only one belongs in this thread. Collectors talk provenance. Pyromaniacs talk fuel.

The balls on this guy! 😂 The guy who's been here for 5 minutes is telling us why "some of us" are here.

I even offered him four of those partagas and nary a response. However, if you're just going to "study" them, you can forget it. Cigars are meant to be smoked.

This is obviously Steve or Ross. Or Daniel. Or Peter. Or Nick or Patrick. Or someone who has a beef with Pete and is using chat GPT to troll him. No fine Southern gentleman who wants to preserve and study elitist cigars is going to find a forum, derive the name of " Mr opus x," and then let the first words out of his scum hole be a request of what we can do for him.

Out with it, young man. Show your face.

I can eliminate this Steve from the list. I have no current beef with Pete, when I do it will be dealt with in a straightforward manner and then let bygones be bygones. No back door games from me. Also, I've never knowingly used ChatGPT for anything at all.

With that said, MropusX, we get a lot of bozos here making all kinds of claims and requests. In the past I have often suspected that these are ATF agents trying to catch someone with contraband. Whatever. It gets old and we get jaded and it tends to bring out the smartass in many of us. Sometimes I think we run off legitimate seekers, that's our fault. Mostly.

Time will tell. We're just a bunch of guys that like smoking cigars, and pipes. That's it.

As for the "high end" stuff, well, I am an Opus X fan myself, probably have about 15 or 20 on hand, have posted my picture on here standing with Arturo Fuente Jr in his shop in Ybor City, and love Fuentes cigars. The past couple of years seem not to have been their best, I'm guessing due to factory fires etc. I also love Padron, and Davidoff, but don't purchase as many. I've been contemplating smoking a "Year of the Snake" Davidoff, but it's probably my only one of those. It will be soon, as @Itsfine said, they're meant to be smoked. I shall do so when I feel the time is right.

My point here is that we're here to share information about what we're smoking, what we're doing in our lives, and just generally enjoy talking to an eclectic group of people that also enjoy life and a good cigar. We don't exist to fulfill others wishes and desires, or to entertain them.

Try just joining in the conversations, have fun. But if stirring up schidt is your idea of fun, feel free to step along.

I was definitely not talking about you!

Hawks · January 28

This conversation has me curious now. What would 30+ years do to a properly kept cigar? Does it contain sugars like Virginia leaf? Would it smooth the flavor profile like Latakia or take the spice out like Perique? Would that kind of age on cigar leaves just make them taste like cardboard and air?

Itsfine · January 28

@Hawks said:
This conversation has me curious now. What would 30+ years do to a properly kept cigar? Does it contain sugars like Virginia leaf? Would it smooth the flavor profile like Latakia or take the spice out like Perique? Would that kind of age on cigar leaves just make them taste like cardboard and air?

One of the last two, depending on the cigar, and that's after for 15 to 20 years. 35 years? Lean more toward the second, the cigar Jedi would.

Itsfine · January 28

It brings up on the interesting question that I just thought of. With padrons specifically, they use all of the same tobacco that they grow, plus some MSA, to create all of their blends (damaso aside). A 1964 is essentially a brown label that is box pressed and aged longer. A 1926 is essentially the same thing aged slightly longer than that. Or so legend has it.

What makes the millennium or any of their particular blends different from the rest? Did they add an extra lijero leaf to the millennium? Is it just exclusivity? I got these in the mail today. Ungodly money. How are they different from any other family reserve? Is it just vitola?

Rdp77 · January 29

They do a lot with fermentation. The leaf on the 26 goes through a different maybe lesser fermentation process than the 64, hence the lighter color. They also don’t tell you if the aging is pre or post roll. You can take the same leaves from the same crop and make them completely different depending on how you treat them. And yes, changing the filler of the blend or doing something different to a binder leaf in terms of fermentation can make a world of difference in flavor and/or strength and body.
From what I understand, the family reserves are picked from very select crops and given the different fermentation and aging processes. They’ll never tell us which get what.

Vision · January 29

@Hawks said:
This conversation has me curious now. What would 30+ years do to a properly kept cigar? Does it contain sugars like Virginia leaf? Would it smooth the flavor profile like Latakia or take the spice out like Perique? Would that kind of age on cigar leaves just make them taste like cardboard and air?

To Franks point. I’ve smoked 15-20 year old cigars in last few years and outside of maybe one (Viaje excluded, they age well) all went very south.

https://forum.cigar.com/discussion/901203/evaluating-aged-cigars/p1

Rdp77 · January 29

@Hawks said:
This conversation has me curious now. What would 30+ years do to a properly kept cigar? Does it contain sugars like Virginia leaf? Would it smooth the flavor profile like Latakia or take the spice out like Perique? Would that kind of age on cigar leaves just make them taste like cardboard and air?

Properly kept or not, some tobaccos just don’t hold up as well as others. Like Pete said, Vijay tends to hold up very well because they use a lot of heartier tobaccos like Nicaraguan grown Habanos and corojos. Most MSA is pretty hearty as well. More delicate ones like Cameroons, some Sumatras, and Connecticut shade fall off much quicker. Broadleaf is another one that holds up well but age tends to change the flavor profile. On a lot of them more of the sweetness comes out.

But aging cigars is a crapshoot. The tobaccos also differ depending on where they were grown and how much they were fermented and aged before you got them. Best thing you can do if you plan on aging something is to periodically smoke one and do like a wise man once said…

Smoke em when they’re good

Itsfine · January 29

And to Todd's point about the super old cigars, there comes A Time when all of the oils simply dissipate from the leaves, no matter how humid you keep them. You could keep a cigar and perfect archival aging conditions for 65 years, and it's notebook paper when you go to smoke it. You'll have flavor, no doubt, and there is still nicotine in the leaves (at least some to most of it), no doubt. However the cigars are just gone.

peter4jc · January 29

I'd like to prove you wrong, but don't think I've got 65 years left in me.

Edit: now I'm hearing Frank, "Just stay 'til the end of the game!"

Vision · January 30

I love the 2 LOL. Because Agree, Like, Vote Up, Awesome all seem…. Wrong?? 🤷🏻‍♂️

mropusx · February 8

Gentlemen,

I owe everyone here an apology for the delay in responding. It wasn’t intentional. I’ve been dealing with legitimate health complications the past couple of weeks, which sidelined me harder than a bad retrohale on an empty stomach. I should have spoken up sooner and didn’t — that’s on me. Chalk it up to poor timing and even poorer decision-making, which will become a recurring theme.

I also want to clear something up before it grows legs and starts smoking a Gurkha on its own: yes, I use ChatGPT to help me write. I spell like a distracted raccoon, my grammar is worse, and if I try to compose a thoughtful reply myself it takes so long that the cigar I lit at the beginning has already gone out and relit itself in protest. This isn’t posturing or trolling — it’s adaptive technology keeping me from embarrassing myself even more than usual.

First and foremost, to the gentleman who offered to send me four Partagas 150s: thank you. Seriously. That was an incredibly generous offer, and I’m genuinely humbled by it. I’m also aware that accepting free cigars after introducing myself like a man who just kicked in the saloon doors yelling “WHO’S GOT ANY 150s?” is… not ideal. Please know the gratitude is real, even if my execution has been questionable at best.

To anyone I may have offended — intentionally or otherwise — I apologize. Tone doesn’t always translate online, and I can absolutely see how I came off like a man who has read exactly one article about provenance and decided it was now his entire personality. That wasn’t my intent. I didn’t come here to insult the forum, the members, or anyone’s smoking habits — even if I clearly sounded like someone who alphabetizes his humidors and whispers apologies to his cigars before lighting them.

For clarity: I am not an ATF agent, not a sock puppet, not a burner account, and not part of a multi-state sting operation targeting 30-year-old tobacco. I’m just a guy who genuinely enjoys cigars, their history, and — if I’m being honest — has a slightly unhinged fixation on Partagas 150s that probably should have been flagged earlier by friends or medical professionals.

I fully respect the idea that cigars are meant to be smoked. I also respect that people enjoy this hobby in wildly different ways — smoking everything immediately, aging selectively, or arguing passionately on the internet about fermentation until the sun comes up. None of that is wrong. I’m not here to convert anyone, lecture anyone, or build a shrine to the 150s… though I admit the blueprints exist.

I appreciate the knowledge shared here, the humor (especially when it was aimed squarely at me), and the fact that instead of banning me outright, most of you chose sarcasm — which frankly feels earned. I’d like to reset, participate like a normal human being, and slowly earn my place without sounding like I’m auditioning for “Most Intense New Guy of the Year.”

Thank you for the patience, the laughs, and the generosity shown — particularly to a man who has proven he can turn a simple cigar question into a full-blown personality reveal. P.S. the attached images are Partagas Signature Series 160s I bought a few weeks ago, not the 150s, don't know that I will ever smoke one but maybe. I agree old cigars might taste like paper, or carboard, neither of which might be fun.

Respectfully (and slightly sheepishly),
mropusx

TRayB · February 8

@mropusx said:
Gentlemen,

I owe everyone here an apology for the delay in responding. It wasn’t intentional. I’ve been dealing with legitimate health complications the past couple of weeks, which sidelined me harder than a bad retrohale on an empty stomach. I should have spoken up sooner and didn’t — that’s on me. Chalk it up to poor timing and even poorer decision-making, which will become a recurring theme.

I also want to clear something up before it grows legs and starts smoking a Gurkha on its own: yes, I use ChatGPT to help me write. I spell like a distracted raccoon, my grammar is worse, and if I try to compose a thoughtful reply myself it takes so long that the cigar I lit at the beginning has already gone out and relit itself in protest. This isn’t posturing or trolling — it’s adaptive technology keeping me from embarrassing myself even more than usual.

First and foremost, to the gentleman who offered to send me four Partagas 150s: thank you. Seriously. That was an incredibly generous offer, and I’m genuinely humbled by it. I’m also aware that accepting free cigars after introducing myself like a man who just kicked in the saloon doors yelling “WHO’S GOT ANY 150s?” is… not ideal. Please know the gratitude is real, even if my execution has been questionable at best.

To anyone I may have offended — intentionally or otherwise — I apologize. Tone doesn’t always translate online, and I can absolutely see how I came off like a man who has read exactly one article about provenance and decided it was now his entire personality. That wasn’t my intent. I didn’t come here to insult the forum, the members, or anyone’s smoking habits — even if I clearly sounded like someone who alphabetizes his humidors and whispers apologies to his cigars before lighting them.

For clarity: I am not an ATF agent, not a sock puppet, not a burner account, and not part of a multi-state sting operation targeting 30-year-old tobacco. I’m just a guy who genuinely enjoys cigars, their history, and — if I’m being honest — has a slightly unhinged fixation on Partagas 150s that probably should have been flagged earlier by friends or medical professionals.

I fully respect the idea that cigars are meant to be smoked. I also respect that people enjoy this hobby in wildly different ways — smoking everything immediately, aging selectively, or arguing passionately on the internet about fermentation until the sun comes up. None of that is wrong. I’m not here to convert anyone, lecture anyone, or build a shrine to the 150s… though I admit the blueprints exist.

I appreciate the knowledge shared here, the humor (especially when it was aimed squarely at me), and the fact that instead of banning me outright, most of you chose sarcasm — which frankly feels earned. I’d like to reset, participate like a normal human being, and slowly earn my place without sounding like I’m auditioning for “Most Intense New Guy of the Year.”

Thank you for the patience, the laughs, and the generosity shown — particularly to a man who has proven he can turn a simple cigar question into a full-blown personality reveal. P.S. the attached images are Partagas Signature Series 160s I bought a few weeks ago, not the 150s, don't know that I will ever smoke one but maybe. I agree old cigars might taste like paper, or carboard, neither of which might be fun.

Respectfully (and slightly sheepishly),
mropusx

TL;DR , but nice pics.

peter4jc · February 8

We don't have the ability to ban people; we just chase them away with our kind-hearted congeniality.

But if we did... ;-)

Vision · February 8

You don’t know if you’ll ever smoke one? Am I in the wrong place?

TRayB · February 8

@peter4jc said:
We don't have the ability to ban people; we just chase them away with our kind-hearted congeniality.

But if we did... ;-)

People who don't stay until the end of the game would be the first to go.

dirtdude · February 8

Smoke the damn things

memento_mori · February 8

@mropusx tell us, briefly, about your day to day cigar smoking hobby enjoyment, outside of Opus and collecting P150’s. IMHO, perplexed but curiously interested.

silvermouse · February 8

@mropusx said:

I spell like a distracted raccoon, my grammar is worse

I smell like a distressed raccoon, my grandma is even worse. You are free to be yourself here. Relax and let us in on your true self. What do you do, blue jeans or three piece suits, young or old, interests. We know you are there under the AI chat polish.

Partagas 150 and Padron Millennium maduro wrapper

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