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  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dirtdude said:
    Haven't seen Democrats this mad since we freed their slaves

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    19th-century Democrats held positions that align more with modern Republican views than current Democratic ones, largely due to a party flip in the mid-20th century. In the 1800s, Democrats favored limited central government power, states' rights, and supported slavery, directly opposing the Republican Party, which was founded in the 1850s to abolish slavery and promote a stronger union.

  • Yakster
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    Thanks for the unlocked article, Edward.

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  • ShawnOL
    ShawnOL Posts: 14,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Liberals accuse me of not being "politically correct." They're 100% wrong. All of my political views are the correct views for an American to have.

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  • edz
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    @Vision said:

    @dirtdude said:
    Haven't seen Democrats this mad since we freed their slaves

    When you’re right, you’re right πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

    19th-century Democrats held positions that align more with modern Republican views than current Democratic ones, largely due to a party flip in the mid-20th century. In the 1800s, Democrats favored limited central government power, states' rights, and supported slavery, directly opposing the Republican Party, which was founded in the 1850s to abolish slavery and promote a stronger union.

    The reasons why are very interesting. Wasn't north and south as well as rights for all what split both parties and actually made two new parties?

  • silvermouse
    silvermouse Posts: 24,652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just my considered opinion: Making America great is not synonymous with hegemony. That path leads to an erosion of what made America great.

  • silvermouse
    silvermouse Posts: 24,652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Three major reports this month reveal that Trump has rapidly harmed American democracy since returning to the White House. Bright Line Watch, which surveys over 500 U.S. scholars, concluded that the U.S. now falls nearly halfway between liberal democracy and dictatorship. The organization's co-directors spoke to NPR exclusively ahead of the survey's publication next week. An annual V-Dem report dropped the U.S.'s democracy ranking from 20 to 51 among 179 countries. A Freedom House report released yesterday said that among free countries, the U.S. recorded some of the largest declines in political rights and civil liberties last year.

  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 10,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder how much it would have dropped if the candidate that was NOT democratically selected had won? Or, does the process count for anything?

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  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 10,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwLvgumfPE

    Well, here's proof I guess. Decidedly government opposition to civil rights.

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  • ShawnOL
    ShawnOL Posts: 14,835 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 21

    @silvermouse said:
    Three major reports this month reveal that Trump has rapidly harmed American democracy since returning to the White House. Bright Line Watch, which surveys over 500 U.S. scholars, concluded that the U.S. now falls nearly halfway between liberal democracy and dictatorship. The organization's co-directors spoke to NPR exclusively ahead of the survey's publication next week. An annual V-Dem report dropped the U.S.'s democracy ranking from 20 to 51 among 179 countries. A Freedom House report released yesterday said that among free countries, the U.S. recorded some of the largest declines in political rights and civil liberties last year.

    America is not a democracy and was never meant to be. It is a Constitutional Republic. Pure democracy is just mob rule. The progressives/socialists/communists (or whatever they're calling themselves today) that push so hard for us to believe we are a democracy are just trying to convince us that our liberty is dependant on the majority, not the individual. They hate the idea of individual liberty. That is why they are always pushing collectivism. They want to only have to emotionally sway just a slight majority of the people to strip the individual of rights. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on what's for dinner.

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  • genareddog
    genareddog Posts: 4,545 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hate to ask this and if you can please put your politcal party aside, why the hell are we in this middle east conflict?

  • ShawnOL
    ShawnOL Posts: 14,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapon capability.

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  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 21

    @ShawnOL said:
    To prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapon capability.

    But we obliterated that weeks ago…. So why are we still there?

    I can help…..

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  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 21

    @ShawnOL said:
    To prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapon capability.

    Or……

  • genareddog
    genareddog Posts: 4,545 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ShawnOL said:
    To prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapon capability.

    Cant say I agree with that.

  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @genareddog said:

    @ShawnOL said:
    To prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapon capability.

    Cant say I agree with that.

    And most of the people around Trumpty can’t either….

  • peter4jc
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    @genareddog said:

    @ShawnOL said:
    To prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapon capability.

    Cant say I agree with that.

    You can't agree with that being the reason for the war, or agree with Iran having nukes?

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  • ShawnOL
    ShawnOL Posts: 14,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe the nuke thing is just a cover. Maybe trumps real reason is to help the muzzies over there who want the current radical, oppressive regime gone. They've been on TV begging Trump to continue what he started. Finish the job. There's always that.

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  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 10,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. Β If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Β Mark Twain
  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 10,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Years ago I defended Islam. I had a good friend who was Muslim, from Jerusalem, and I could sympathize with much of what he told me about living in your own country and feeling you were living in an occupied land. I still think that there are aspects of Islam that ring true. Somehow, though, there are too many things that don't, as seen above. I don't know why these things became part of Muhammad's message, but they've certainly led to too many problems. I wish it weren't so.

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  • Itsfine
    Itsfine Posts: 21,361 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah stuff like this always reminds me of this.

    https://youtu.be/uxtLZLtSWIQ?t=24&si=2jA7EAcmvvIu28Si

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  • silvermouse
    silvermouse Posts: 24,652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    then there is this guy who changed the DOD to the DOW. God wills it, indeed.

  • silvermouse
    silvermouse Posts: 24,652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let's see if we can increase the number of death threats aimed at Congress.

    "Now with the death of Iran, the greatest enemy America has is the radical left, highly incompetent, Democrat Party," Trump wrote in a Truth Social post.

  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 10,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23

    Doubtful impact. Easier to just vote them out, and they've been making that case against themselves just fine. Why risk jail when you could just show your I.D. at the poll and have them removed?

    Of course, there's the Jussie Smollet effect wherein the left will make anonymous threats and then claim they were made by conservatives. That's likely.

    I see that CNN has had to issue multiple retractions regarding false news stories they aired on the word of "anonymous insider sources". More of those are likely, too.

    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. Β If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Β Mark Twain
  • Wylaff
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    @genareddog said:
    I hate to ask this and if you can please put your politcal party aside, why the hell are we in this middle east conflict?

    Honestly I feel like it's because Trump can run for a 3rd term if we are in an active war.

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  • Itsfine
    Itsfine Posts: 21,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23

    @Wylaff said:

    @genareddog said:
    I hate to ask this and if you can please put your politcal party aside, why the hell are we in this middle east conflict?

    Honestly I feel like it's because Trump can run for a 3rd term if we are in an active war.

    Not true but maybe he believes it.

    This isn't even a war until someone declares it and then a certain legislative body sings the law, no?

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  • Itsfine
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    @silvermouse said:
    then there is this guy who changed the DOD to the DOW. God wills it, indeed.

    As a DoD employee, I can tell you the name of the department is the DoD.

    The president's EO changing it to dow is like buying one of those joke vanity plates at the carnival. Go ahead and put it in your dash, no problem. But your license plate is your license plate.

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  • silvermouse
    silvermouse Posts: 24,652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks Frank. Checking it out I read that the switch to using the secondary title pulled an expected $600,000,000 from dod budget for new branding. Hey. It is free money....

    "The projected $600 million cost raises trade-offs across the defense budget. Competition for funding across the vast department includes cyber upgrades and munitions sustainment, discretionary investments in childcare and retention bonuses, and base infrastructure projects if appropriations are reprogrammed to cover one-time rebranding expenses."

    https://www.fedweek.com/fedweek/legal-limbo-and-dual-branding-follow-600m-name-change/