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bbc020bbc020 Posts: 1,422
Second time poster here, still somewhat new to the cigar scene.

I've got two somewhat packed humidors in my office, both seasoned reasonably, for at least a week, before I put any smokes in them.  At first I was using a some of those great green foam hockey pucks with PG solution to keep humidified.  I noticed that the humidification element only kept the box humidified for a couple weeks, so I decided to supplement with DryMistat tubes.  This kept things stable a little longer.  After a while I took out the pucks and did only gel tubes.  This kept things at 70% +/- 2% depending on the temperature in my office.  (One day the AC was not functioning and things got a little steamy). I was looking to get the humidity down to the 67-68% range, so I purchased some Boveda packets.  I'm now operating with three gel tubes and a couple Boveda packets geared for the 65-69% range and I have been getting the RH to about 68% consistently.

I guess my question is based in whether a mix and match approach to humidifying my humi's has any pitfalls, other than less space in the box.  I have just ordered a couple elements that will hold plenty of beads(@65%) to humidify both boxes. These will theoretically will keep things at my lowest preferred threshold (65%).  What about mixing and matching with beads.  I was thinking of using tubes to bring the effective RH up to that sweet spot for me...67%. 

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    kuzi16kuzi16 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭
    65% is actually pretty good. thats where i keep both of my humidors. if you mix and match with the beads i imagine that there wouldnt be any real problems besides making them less effective. they would always be fighting whatever other humidification device you may have in there. ...unless that is set the same as the beads.

    i would relax a bit about your RH though. small fluctuations arent a big deal.
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    rwheelwrightrwheelwright Posts: 3,296
    I do it and other than space, I do not have an issue.
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    dutyjedutyje Posts: 2,263
    This kinda reminds me of my old sig line: I keep one tube of 70% and one tube of 65% beads in my humidor. I have a theory that this will tear a hole in space and time, and my humidor will be replenished with premium cigars from the past and present.

    Seriously, though, let's consider the above scenario within the context of the theory of beads. First off, the idea is that, when the ambient humidity is below the target humidity for the bead, it will release moisture until the ambient humidity reaches that target. Likewise, the idea is that if the ambient humidity is greater than the target rH, the beads will absorb moisture until the humidity reaches the target.

    So, let's stick those two tubes of beads in a humidor that is currently at 67% (and let's assume the beads have an infinite capacity to absorb and/or release moisture, and that the humidity inside the humidor was not affected by my opening and closing it). Let's stick the 65% tube on the left side, and the 70% tube on the right side.

    In this scenario, the 70% beads will release moisture in an effort to bring the rH up to 70%. Likewise, the 65% beads will absorb moisture in an effort to bring the rH down to 65%. What you would then have is a flow of moisture from right to left within the humidor. If we acknowledge that the moisture capacity of the beads is limited, this flow of moisture will continue until one of the following conditions is reached:

    1. The 70% beads become fully de-charged.
    2. The 65% beads become fully saturated.

    For conclusion 1, the humidity would reach 65% as the beads absorb the remaining ambient moisture without the injection of new moisture into the environment from the 70% beads (or until they are full). For conclusion 2, the humidity would reach 70% as the 70% beads would cease releasing moisture once the rH reached 70% (or technically, when they dried out), and the 65% beads would be too full to absorb any more moisture.

    dang.. I need a cigar.
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    urbinourbino Posts: 4,517
    And a Schlitz.
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    bbc020bbc020 Posts: 1,422
    classic...didn't mean to make you think, but I appreciate the effort to explain what might happen.  If I get down to the charlotte area again, I'll bring you a stick just for taking the time to explain the situation!
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    j0z3rj0z3r Posts: 9,403 ✭✭
    Uh-oh, don't go encouraging Doody to think, he'll start springing all kinds of theories on us in the hopes of getting free cigars. I predict that when this happens, the heavens will part and four horsemen shall descend upon us, ushering in the apocalypse.
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    urbinourbino Posts: 4,517
    And Schlitz.
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    dutyjedutyje Posts: 2,263
    urbino:
    And Schlitz.
    mmm.. Schlitz... just had one last night as a matter of fact :)
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    phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭
    dutyje:
    urbino:
    And Schlitz.
    mmm.. Schlitz... just had one last night as a matter of fact :)
    eh? lol, the 70 and 65 is a novel idea, one I might try. I am wondering though, those that have the pucks with beads, do you put them at the bottom of your humi, and then put cigars on top of them? I have two of them in mine and they are sitting on one side which are taking valuable reality space...
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    bbc020bbc020 Posts: 1,422
    I haven't received them as of yet, but I was hoping to hang them from the lid. Maybe that's not such a good Idea?
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    phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭
    If your humi isn't a glass top like mine than you will be fine..
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    bbc020bbc020 Posts: 1,422
    point taken
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    dutyjedutyje Posts: 2,263
    My puck came with my humi, and attaches to the top with a built-in magnet. I tossed the green foam and filled the puck with beads. Doesn't take any real estate off the floor of the humi.
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