am i the only one...?
kuzi16
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Am I the only one who thinks that Padron is over rated?
and further more, why is it that people who "only smoke Cubans" will occasionally smoke a Padron and its the only thing NC they like? i mean seriously, the brand doesnt taste Cuban in any way shape or form.
i dont feel that it is even the most refined or interesting Nicaraguan cigar company out there.
i just dont understand the strange obsession with the brand.
and further more, why is it that people who "only smoke Cubans" will occasionally smoke a Padron and its the only thing NC they like? i mean seriously, the brand doesnt taste Cuban in any way shape or form.
i dont feel that it is even the most refined or interesting Nicaraguan cigar company out there.
i just dont understand the strange obsession with the brand.
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WOW. You had to go there? Rosie's panties???? I am a Padron fan. By no means the best cigars I have ever tried in my humble opinion, but a very good and consistent cigar for my taste. Some of the anniversary editions I really enjoyed, and I have not tried any of the LE or HTF versions. I think the price point is a little high, but I do enjoy them.
Don't have a lot of experience other then one 1926 Maduro and a few regular Padron's but loved it and would love to try any and all of the others I could get my hands on. I'm only a big noob with the cc's but Joe has hooked me up with a nice variety and I watch Catfish's show and am learning the CC world as much as I can, so I don't apply to the people you are in reference to but I have loved the few Padron's my cheap a$$ has had
Padron makes excellent cigars but overpriced, as well as Davidoff, Arturo Fuente and many other top brands. However, the differences are Padron stick with the core line and do not release so many special releases like Davidoff, AF, Pepin and many other brands. Lately I stop buying Davidoff, Avo and other Henkes cigars with knowing via a company insider that it is all about money, marketing and increase sales. They all taste more or less the same. I feel like Padron at least do not come up with special releases in every year and maintains quality. I never had any issue with regular line, 1926, Family Reserve and 1964. What I dont like about Padron is- none of them are 100% Nicaraguan puro but they do not admit it. However, at least they do not fool people with frequent special, LE blends like many others.
It is not a secret that I am a huge CC fan but I also smoke others not only Padron. Padron indeed delivers unique Nicaraguan flavors. In my opinion, Joya de Nicaragua cigars are flat except the Cuarto Cinco. I love Cuarto Cinco so much that I bought 12 boxes and believe it one of the top ten all time Nicaragua cigar (again rolled in Nicaragua but not a 100% Nicaraguan puro). I know many CC smokers who smoke other NC as well. CC smokers like Padron because of its core line, quality and consistency but again they also smoke Arturo Fuente, Pepin and others. I dont know why you said that CC smokers occasionally smoke Padron only. Many CC smokers stick with CC because of the unique flavors which we can only find in CC. However, Nicaraguan cigar also offers very unique flavor which is not present in CC(specially the Ometepe tobacco). Lately, I am more into custom made cigars which allows me to enjoy the unique aged Nicaraguan tobaccos. After CC and I like the flavors and aroma of Nicaragua. Dominican tobaccos do not attract me anymore but again it is the shift of my personal taste.
I disagree with your comment on Padron not being the most refined or interesting Nicaraguan cigar company. It might not be the most refined but it is definitely the top three along with Pepin and AJ. The fame of Padron has lot to do with strong marketing but it does not change the fact that the company makes good cigar which offers quality and consistency.
I dont know what you mean by strange obsession. Perhaps loyal customer would be the appropriate term in this case. At the end taste is subjective but at the same time- the truth is there are good and bad cigars in the market. Its all come down to the personal taste and willingness to pay the price.
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i guess ill get to this in order this is pretty much what i was expecting from just about everyone here. it seems like every time i tell someone that im not a Padron fan they look at me like i have lobsters climbing out of my ears. interesting take. i have always thought that the Padron finish was just a standard way to long and strong Nicaraguan finish. heck, i would venture to say this was the worst part of every Padron i have ever had.
though i do agree that most Nicaraguans do have a less than perfect finish. i have been very burned out on alot of Nicaraguans as of late.
something smooth and light from the dominican and ill be happy. much better finish.
i gave them a bit more of a shot than that. a hand full of 26s, 64s, and more than a few of the thousands... just never impressed. though i have a 64 in my humidor from 2011 that i will fire up soon and pay extra attention to the finish. who knows, maybe this will be the one where i see what everyone is raving about. i agree on the ashtray part... never have, and never wnat to come anywhere near rosies panties.
agree about the solid company thing. i have been to the factory. great production. great process. great tobacco theory. the blending just isnt my style at all.
I know why thats funny. that i get. and in fact, thats how i feel about Davidoff. love the brand but i do feel they are over priced. a few things that Rip said kinda hit on that. yeah... i do agree that Davidoff is over priced and over rated. The blending profile is for me though. they are a "sometimes treat"
I almost never buy Davidoff LEs. only the annual Avo LE. never blown away by those. like the regular lines better. wow... learn something every day.
however, after all the sticks in cigars videos from Padron dissections, this shocks me a little less.
all the people Obsessed with the cigar wouldnt care if they came out and said it though. same as with the video: "as long as it smokes good... "
im sure to some degree that Padron is doing the same crap that davidoff is doing, inflating prices to look like an ultra premium while withholding info and cutting corners on quality. at some point it is a business, and we all know that some are better than others in the honesty department.
JdN is one of my favorite brands and though i also agree that they can be a bit flat at times they also dont carry they same price point as Padron. not even close.
i feel that JdN is in the right price point where as Padron can be over priced on the 64s and 26s.
no, i meant strange obsession
without fail, whenever i mention padron to the fanboys their eyes light up like a teenage girl when you mention Justin Bieber. if i mention i had a burn issue they try to blame it on me. if i mention that its not my style of blending they have often told me that i have no palate. its amazing what people do to defend Padron when it fact it is exactly as you said it:
i will say that i have no problems with consistency. until the sticks video i didnt know that they were in there. it worries me now but i have not smoked a Padron since then.
im really speaking more of the blending style. Gurkha has serious construction and consistency issues. the comparison isnt quite there.
I find the construction, draw, and performance to be really good on every Padron I've smoked. With that said, I expect that for the cost because I expect that out of every higher end Fuente, Tat, DPG, LFD/LG, Ashton stick. I've never had a bum Padron. Although they aren't my absolute favorite, I respect the business model. No real gimmicks, just a good lineup of really good tasting and performing sticks. The 26 80th and 45yr are some of my favs.