jd50ae:I still have the first AMERICAN FLAG I could find after 9/11 and I absolutely feel sorry for the person who even attempts to remove it.
Rain:
webmost:How long has it been since you heard the phrase "but it's a free country."? You used to hear it all the time. "He's killing himself with those cigarettes, but, you know what, it's a free country." "He's a racist knucklehead, but, well, it's a free country." "I don't get it, but it's a free country." "I don't know why his wife puts up with him. Well, it's a free country." You don't hear "it's a free country" any more because it's not. Here's the worst part of it: When we were tadpoles, in all the apocalypse movies, Big Brother clamps down and forces everyone to toe the rigid party line, while a subject population secretly plots to risk their lives for freedom. It didn't turn out that way, did it? Instead, what we see is subjects eagerly and openly squashing each other's rights, and demanding Big Brother clamp down. Which BB is eager to do. All in the name of virtue. Ghastly. Liberals refuse to accept responsibility for our PC plight. Who else devised it? Who? Blame it on Bush like everything else, I suppose. Conservatives pile on out of cowardice. If they were in the saddle, they wouldn't shoot this horse, they would just ride it over a different hill. Libertarians are painted with tinfoil hats. They're the only ones to say "Hey, it's supposed to be a free country." Children are raised institutionally in lock step so they know nothing else. The only liberty they know is libertinism. I don't see much hope. You?
Bob Luken: raisindot:Sorry, folks, but this is not about PC--it's about the greedy apartment managers who are afraid of losing the foreign tenants who probably pay way more for their apartments then the students. Blame greedy real estate owners for valuing profits more than patriotism. While I won't call your spin on this subject pathetic, sorry or absurd, I will ridicule. LOL Almost EVERYTHING can (Truly or Falsely) be blamed on greed. Besides, The supposed act of greed you allude to would obviously be directly influenced by PC. How else do foreigners/immigrants/outsiders feel like they can get what they want from a silly complaint like this if it weren't for the steady and relentless progression of the PC virus? Speaking of PC. Neither Joe Biden nor myself got the memo when it was decided that you could NEVER call Asians Oriental. Nobody told me. Nope, I didn't know it was a slur. Nobody told Joe. But at least y'all can forgive Joe. He's in the right party. If he were a repub, the press would be chasing him down every alley to inflict their righteous anger upon him.
raisindot:Sorry, folks, but this is not about PC--it's about the greedy apartment managers who are afraid of losing the foreign tenants who probably pay way more for their apartments then the students. Blame greedy real estate owners for valuing profits more than patriotism.
SleevePlz:Are we making a mountain out of a molehill? We found one idiot slumlord that doesn't want an American flag flying on his property. And I'm sure we can find a few other idiots that have done similar things. But we quickly take these actions and pretend they apply to the general populace. Why? No one does that with the Westboro idiots. Or the KKK. Or any other group of idiots with idiotic ideas. We seem way to eager to take small groups of people and use them to justify that the country is going to hell. I don't get it.
First Warrior:Folks who have bled for our flag see something in it that most people do not. The folks who have bled are a very special minority. Majority rules.
raisindot: SleevePlz:Are we making a mountain out of a molehill? We found one idiot slumlord that doesn't want an American flag flying on his property. And I'm sure we can find a few other idiots that have done similar things. But we quickly take these actions and pretend they apply to the general populace. Why? No one does that with the Westboro idiots. Or the KKK. Or any other group of idiots with idiotic ideas. We seem way to eager to take small groups of people and use them to justify that the country is going to hell. I don't get it. +100!
webmost: raisindot: SleevePlz:Are we making a mountain out of a molehill? We found one idiot slumlord that doesn't want an American flag flying on his property. And I'm sure we can find a few other idiots that have done similar things. But we quickly take these actions and pretend they apply to the general populace. Why? No one does that with the Westboro idiots. Or the KKK. Or any other group of idiots with idiotic ideas. We seem way to eager to take small groups of people and use them to justify that the country is going to hell. I don't get it. +100! The island of Rapa Nui was denuded one tree at a time. Each tree was just one tree. One family needing firewood for their hut. Until the day the last tree on Easter Island was gone. Then nobody could make a canoe and go fishing so the natives had to turn to eating one another. There was never one massive conflagration, never one big tree-cutting party, never an un-arbor day. Just an insidious creeping treelessness. By the time they woke up it was too late. That's what we have here. Are you waiting until 200,000 souls gather in Central Park one night for a big book burning bonfire before you get off your butt? Not how it happens. It's baby steps. It's one 90 year old Medal of Honor winner who his neighborhood association tells him take down his flag pole and he says shove it. It's one young man hanging a flag on his balcony to remember the day Todd Beemer said "Let's roll" and paid the price. It's one small thing after another. It's the Death of a Thousand Cuts. It's an insidious creeping PC evisceration of America.
raisindot:Right now, states across America are imposing draconian photo ID requirements solely for the purpose of keeping minorities and the poor from voting.
webmost: raisindot:Right now, states across America are imposing draconian photo ID requirements solely for the purpose of keeping minorities and the poor from voting. Sorry. I choked right there. Are you afraid you can't win an election without voter fraud?
raisindot: My reaction to that? Right now, states across America are imposing draconian photo ID requirements solely for the purpose of keeping minorities and the poor from voting. What's next? Requiring voters to own property as many states did until the mid 19th century? Requiring voters to be Christian? Right now, states across the country are imposing draconian laws specifically designed to prevent women to exercise their constitutional right to have an abortion. What's next? States deciding that unwed women must give up unwanted babies, at the risk of their own health? Right now, states across the country are allowing their cops to pull over people simply because of their skin color and conduct searches in violation of the 4th Amendment. What's next, rounding up anyone who looks suspicious and sending them to camps like we did to Japanese Americans in WWII? Or sending them to prison without due process, as was done during the infamous Palmer Raids after WWI? Right now, the federal government, with the approval of most of Congress, still allows the government to tap our phones and log our emails with no requirement of probable cause. What's next, illegal wirerapping of private citizens based solely on political reasons, as happened during the McCarthy and Nixon eras? To me, all of these state- and federal-sanctioned curtailments of 1st Amendment rights are far, far more threatening to the American way of life than the occasional stupid and very rare occurrences of private companies asking for flags to be removed. If you tell me that there is any state in the country whose cops and other law enforcement officials are persecuting individuals for flying a flag then I'll be right there with you to condemn this at every level. But, as far as I'm concerned, stupid flag-censoring actions by a few stupid privately owned concerns pales in comparison of officially sanctioned acts of Constitution trampling going on right now all over this country.
Bob Luken:
pelirrojo:The internet man, you can find anything out there! Another favorite and kind of how I envision a lot of people on these threads.
Bob Luken: pelirrojo:The internet man, you can find anything out there! Another favorite and kind of how I envision a lot of people on these threads. .........and kind of how I envision a couple of guys on these threads.