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Deal of the week

prosspross Posts: 874 ✭✭✭
Is the deal of the week gone now, or did they just run out of Diesels?

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  • BigshizzaBigshizza Posts: 15,644 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Back to all you can toss Gurkha selection
  • YaksterYakster Posts: 25,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll gladly bomb you Tuesday for an Opus today. 

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  • jw517jw517 Posts: 234 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    I'm not feeling the "Deal" part. OH, oh, it says the 5 War Horse are like 240.00 MSRP
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  • Oyam123Oyam123 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    With the internet we have access to so many cigar sellers and see what things are selling for. The hardcore smoker/enthusiasts know a good deal, have long memories of past deals and price points and talk to each other when we see a deal. Most people understand cost of goods and markup as well, so are hesitant to buy at perceived inflated pricing. We are also loyal and understand you need to make a living and keep the lights on. I like when you get a deal from the manufacturer and pass that on to us and not use it to make a little extra. I try to send business your way, but find better deals and am told you can’t price match some items. Free shipping is also a big deal. Some deals are good, but soon become no deal at all when shipping costs are added. Thanks for all you do. 
  • Oyam123Oyam123 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    Not sure how close you work with cigars international (the sis, as some call it) but at times you have the same cigar at double the price they do while running your promotions. It just looks bad. 
    Also, I think your pricing is more than fair, but getting a sweet deal on a cigar somehow makes it taste much better. 

  • jw517jw517 Posts: 234 ✭✭✭
    Hello Mr. Beard! I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings about the Deal you wrote about. In hind site it is a fair price I'm sure. I'm the type who expects more I guess. I am fairly new here having spent the last 28 years buying from JR Tobacco. Have you heard of them? :) You don't get much of a break over there and I don't recall but one time getting free shipping. Unless they changed,Internet ordering was a gamble at best. I like it here! I think my order history shows that. In a nut shell,you have better prices here and brands they don't have. Sincerely , John Schmidt
  • timbtimb Posts: 353 ✭✭✭
    Oyam... wow.  Double the price?  Is that regular sale price?  Any examples?  Is it mainly in comparison to CI or are there other companies in question?

    I keep an eye on CI (and many others) almost daily to see whats new and where prices are.  Re: CI - We're corporate sisters, no doubt, but there's little to no communication as to what deals we run and when we run 'em.  The exception are vendor sponsored deals, which are typically offered to many retailers for a particular month or quarter, so its not uncommon to see MONTE MARCH MADNESS or PUNCH IN THE SAVINGS, big, expansive deals like that... overlap across CCOM, CI, JR's... any retailer that opts in.  

    One thing that comes to mind... there are times when a box of 10 brand X cigars goes for $99.99 as the "regular", everyday sale price on CCOM, CI, JR...etc. Then one day, CCOM, CI, Holts... you name it... they get offered or they negotiate with a vendor a special closeout deal on brand X. Let's say they agree to buy 1000 10-packs of brand X in exchange for a reduced cost.  They then put it on special and blow it out for $49.99. Other companies that didnt negotiate that deal are still selling their boxes of 10 for $99.99, as their costs have stayed the same. The companies selling those $99.99 boxes may very well be making LESS per box than the guy selling them at $49.99.  It can make my head hurt.  IDK if any of this sheds some light on why you will see discrepancies, a little I hope?  I can try and elaborate more if you want.

    One more thought then i gotta get some sleep.  CIGAR.com's plan is to be in business for a very long time.  That won't happen if we don't take care of our customers, offer competitive pricing while respecting vendor MAP policies, and conduct fair & just business practices all along the way.  Will we make some mistakes, of course.  But I'm fully committed to fix anything that ain't right and be a sounding board for you all to tell me what's up.  Let's do this. 

    Gnight all!  Happy Friday!

    tb


    PS - JOHN, great to meet you. No offense taken, like i said the forum provides us a place to voice our opinions and I want to use it to improve the way we operate and react to customer trends.  You expect MORE.  That's cool, I'm picking up what you're putting down.  Let's discuss!  Feel free to email me if you dont want to post it here, either way let's see what we can come up with.

    email: tblythe@cigar.com

  • 0patience0patience Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So. After reading this thread, one thing to consider.
    How many companies do you deal with that provide a forum for their customers and actually pay attention to their venting and even provide input.
    I'm thinking not many.

    Do I consider ccom perfect?
    Not by any long shot, but when I email with a request, they've usually been able to meet the price of competitors or offered up another deal. So if the price seems high, call them on it. I have.

    I'll be one of the first to question a deal on the site. Daily deals comes to mind. But in the same token, a couple days later, I'm cussing because the deal is one I'm looking for excuses not to jump on.

    Do I buy cigars from other places? Of course I do. Killer deals, cigars that ccom doesn't carry and all that. But they have also gotten me cigars they don't normally carry.

    Don't get me wrong, I agree with a lot of comments made. But got to give a little credit that someone is paying attention.
    In Fumo Pax
    Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.

    Wylaff said:
    Atmospheric pressure and crap.
  • jw517jw517 Posts: 234 ✭✭✭
    Absolutely! The only person I talked to at JRwas taking my order on the phone cause their web site wouldn't work. REALLY! 
  • Oyam123Oyam123 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TB your example is spot on. Sobremesa 10/$49 and box of 14 was $99. Defiantly not apples to apples, but I recall a buzz of BOTL remarking on this. And yes the examples you gave. I got the 10pk and handed out a few at the cigar club, people loved them. A BOTL told me a few days later he got 2 boxes they were so good. He paid $160+ for each box of 14. I told him to call and tell them at CI that you had the box at $99. He did and got a credit for his next purchase. 
    Thats another thing, your Corp has very good customer service. 
    Cigarpage started out with GREAT DEALS! Now they say deals, and I find better here. 
  • silvermousesilvermouse Posts: 19,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
    well, another retailer consistently undersells ccom on fivers and offers free shipping. Some of the ones I am interested in:

    Tatuaje Havana VI Victorias--23.79  ccom: 29.99
    Tatuaje Havana VI Angeles--20.93  ccom: 26.99
    Perdomo Lot 23 Robusto--16.98  ccom: 25.50
    Oliva Serie V Lancero--27.72  ccom: 35:50
    Caldwell Long Live The King My Style is Jalapeno--35.62  ccom: not available, singles 10.00

  • Oyam123Oyam123 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TB.....have you ever thought of VIP pricing like Atlantic does. Do something like a small fee $10-20 a year to have access to special pricing. You will keep the hardcore happy and still sell at full retail to the occasional or drive by buyer . Just a thought. 
  • jw517jw517 Posts: 234 ✭✭✭
    I think age should determine the discount. 60 = 60 percent.
  • Oyam123Oyam123 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jw517 said:
    I think age should determine the discount. 60 = 60 percent.
    I agree!
  • timbtimb Posts: 353 ✭✭✭
    good suggestions!  Is the VIP pricing for Atlantic really only $10-20 a year?  I was under the impression it was closer to an Amazon Prime type fee.  Yes we've discussed, its definitely on the wish list.  I'll be working much closer with our development team in 2018, i'll pass along these ideas.  Silvermouse, pm'd ya.
  • timbtimb Posts: 353 ✭✭✭
    jlmarta B)
  • Oyam123Oyam123 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    timb said:
    good suggestions!  Is the VIP pricing for Atlantic really only $10-20 a year?  I was under the impression it was closer to an Amazon Prime type fee.  Yes we've discussed, its definitely on the wish list.  I'll be working much closer with our development team in 2018, i'll pass along these ideas.  Silvermouse, pm'd ya.
    No it’s more, but that’s why we get one and all order off it. $10-20 I would get my own membership 
  • peter4jcpeter4jc Posts: 15,315 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe Atlantic is $60/year, and the discount works out to ~16%, last time I did the math.  But I don't think @Oyam123 is saying copy their specifics, just the principle.

    Or, you could do two levels of membership, i.e. $25/year gets you a discount, but $50/year gets you more of a discount and free shipping. 

    JR has a $30 membership, and it only gets you free shipping for a year.

    I'd assume that you'd give up some profit to earn greater loyalty, and that's what these types of memberships would bring to Ccom.

    "I could've had a Mi Querida!"   Nick Bardis
  • jw517jw517 Posts: 234 ✭✭✭
    peter4jc said:
    I believe Atlantic is $60/year, and the discount works out to ~16%, last time I did the math.  But I don't think @Oyam123 is saying copy their specifics, just the principle.

    Or, you could do two levels of membership, i.e. $25/year gets you a discount, but $50/year gets you more of a discount and free shipping. 

    JR has a $30 membership, and it only gets you free shipping for a year.

    I'd assume that you'd give up some profit to earn greater loyalty, and that's what these types of memberships would bring to Ccom.

    This place is in good shape! That's why I'm here and not with Lou Rothman anymore. When you listen to your customers you see they are not loyal but ARE willing to order from a variety of venders to save money. Price matching and guaranteed best price will bring every order back to c.com. It might seem costly at first but I think the bottom line will be attractive.
  • timbtimb Posts: 353 ✭✭✭
    Good stuff, guys.  I'll hit up the dev team and we'll get something going here in 2018!  Keep the feedback coming!!  
  • WaterNerdWaterNerd Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    peter4jc said:
    I believe Atlantic is $60/year, and the discount works out to ~16%, last time I did the math.  But I don't think @Oyam123 is saying copy their specifics, just the principle.

    Or, you could do two levels of membership, i.e. $25/year gets you a discount, but $50/year gets you more of a discount and free shipping. 

    JR has a $30 membership, and it only gets you free shipping for a year.

    I'd assume that you'd give up some profit to earn greater loyalty, and that's what these types of memberships would bring to Ccom.

    I like this idea. I have no problem paying a membership fee if I can get free shipping for the year. TBH I would probable shop here more if I could get free shipping and discount on my order (just don't tell my wife) Another cigar company ships your order out once a week (you pick the day) which is great so you can put in a few things here and there then pack it all up and off it goes.This would also help with your Corporate Carbon Footprint
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt
    — Abraham Lincoln


  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just a quick thought, COTMC gives 10% discount already, where will this fit into the general scheme of things?
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  • jw517jw517 Posts: 234 ✭✭✭
    Diesel on sale for "Deal of the Week". That is not too shabby! IMHO
  • Usaf06Usaf06 Posts: 10,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Diesel = meh
    "I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form."
    -- Winston Churchill

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