dubiousmonk:Must have been a fluke, Oliva Serie O Maduros are my fav and all the ones I have had, looked, smoked, burned and tasted awesome... odd indeed.
JZ:First impression....not so good. I removed the cello and was disappointed in the wrapper quality. The wrapper was damaged and looked as if it was put on that way. There were large areas that looked like there were holes (dime size) in the original leaf. There were several veins throughout, including a very large one running the length of the stick. The cigar was additionally curved slighty. I've never saw this before. I fired the stick up anyways and wasn't really impressed. The cigar was on the harsh side and left a terrible taste in my mouth. The smoke was inconsistent, some draws produced large amounts of smoke, others I struggled to produce small amounts of smoke. That probably could be attributed to the curve. I was only able to smoke about an inch or less before I had to abandon ship. I've had very good Oliva's in the past and think this was probably a fluke. Anyone else have comments on this stick?
kuzi16:ive never had an O that i liked. maduro or natural. the G's on the other hand.... i have never been let down by a G maduro.
laker1963:However I have had several of the O's and tons of the G's and have never had any serious construction problems with them. Have you Kuzi?
laker1963: kuzi16:ive never had an O that i liked. maduro or natural. the G's on the other hand.... i have never been let down by a G maduro.Same here. However I have had several of the O's and tons of the G's and have never had any serious construction problems with them. Have you Kuzi? Love the G's, not so much the O's.I think these are much like Gurkha's... they may not be your cup of tea, but they are well made.Do you know the history of that particular stick? By that I mean did you purchase it from a B&M or online or was it gifted or what? Sounds almost like this stick may have been VERY wet at one time, and I don't mean green or fresh. That's the only thing I could think of.
JZ: laker1963: kuzi16:ive never had an O that i liked. maduro or natural. the G's on the other hand.... i have never been let down by a G maduro.Same here. However I have had several of the O's and tons of the G's and have never had any serious construction problems with them. Have you Kuzi? Love the G's, not so much the O's.I think these are much like Gurkha's... they may not be your cup of tea, but they are well made.Do you know the history of that particular stick? By that I mean did you purchase it from a B&M or online or was it gifted or what? Sounds almost like this stick may have been VERY wet at one time, and I don't mean green or fresh. That's the only thing I could think of. It was from ccom from the 6 Oliva sampler. I liked the G a lot, havent had the V yet.
Krieg:I wonder what jerk gifted you a bogus cigar! That guy must be a real @ss!
laker1963: Krieg:I wonder what jerk gifted you a bogus cigar! That guy must be a real @ss!Ummm, maybe you should re-read his post. It was part of a six pack sampler from Oliva. I was NOT contending that someone gifted him a **** stick on purpose or anything. Some people know nothing about cigars and how they should be handled. I thought he may have aquired it thru a source such as that. Apparently it was thru a sampler which is why I suggested he try to contact Oliva direct.
JZ: laker1963: Krieg:I wonder what jerk gifted you a bogus cigar! That guy must be a real @ss!Ummm, maybe you should re-read his post. It was part of a six pack sampler from Oliva. I was NOT contending that someone gifted him a **** stick on purpose or anything. Some people know nothing about cigars and how they should be handled. I thought he may have aquired it thru a source such as that. Apparently it was thru a sampler which is why I suggested he try to contact Oliva direct. Krieg was the jerk! LOL. It was my xmas present. The curved nature of the stick gives new meaning to smoking a "j".
laker1963: JZ: laker1963: Krieg:I wonder what jerk gifted you a bogus cigar! That guy must be a real @ss!Ummm, maybe you should re-read his post. It was part of a six pack sampler from Oliva. I was NOT contending that someone gifted him a **** stick on purpose or anything. Some people know nothing about cigars and how they should be handled. I thought he may have aquired it thru a source such as that. Apparently it was thru a sampler which is why I suggested he try to contact Oliva direct. Krieg was the jerk! LOL. It was my xmas present. The curved nature of the stick gives new meaning to smoking a "j".Well then I stand on what I said. Write Oliva.
Krieg: laker1963: JZ: laker1963: Krieg:I wonder what jerk gifted you a bogus cigar! That guy must be a real @ss!Ummm, maybe you should re-read his post. It was part of a six pack sampler from Oliva. I was NOT contending that someone gifted him a **** stick on purpose or anything. Some people know nothing about cigars and how they should be handled. I thought he may have aquired it thru a source such as that. Apparently it was thru a sampler which is why I suggested he try to contact Oliva direct. Krieg was the jerk! LOL. It was my xmas present. The curved nature of the stick gives new meaning to smoking a "j".Well then I stand on what I said. Write Oliva. i doubt Oliva would do anything just for one cigar.
laker1963: Krieg: laker1963: JZ: laker1963: Krieg:I wonder what jerk gifted you a bogus cigar! That guy must be a real @ss!Ummm, maybe you should re-read his post. It was part of a six pack sampler from Oliva. I was NOT contending that someone gifted him a **** stick on purpose or anything. Some people know nothing about cigars and how they should be handled. I thought he may have aquired it thru a source such as that. Apparently it was thru a sampler which is why I suggested he try to contact Oliva direct. Krieg was the jerk! LOL. It was my xmas present. The curved nature of the stick gives new meaning to smoking a "j".Well then I stand on what I said. Write Oliva. i doubt Oliva would do anything just for one cigar.Then you wouldn't sit down and craft a letter which would entice them to do just that. I would. Oliva does not want to send out such an abomination to one of "their best customers for years now" because that might cause me to look for a new stadard and to talk to my freinds about the whole situation on the MANY online forums related to cigars that I would name and let them know I visit often. If done properly, the amount of bad publicity and the idea that they were going to lose at least one full time customer if not more, would be enough to warrant replacing at LEAST this one cigar. I think.
JZ:To be fair I thought I would share my latest experience with the Oliva O maduro. This one came as a replacement from Jose Oliva himself. Immediately I noticed that the wrapper was flawless which was already better than the first. I fired it up and was quite suprised on how good it really was meant to be. Good flavors of wood, nice burn and draw. I'm glad I was able to try this one again. I smoked it while reading the book Lone Survivor which made for a nice and relaxing afternoon.
gdsim1:I smoke Oliva products of all shapes and sizes regularly and have never had an issue like this! I would get in touch with wherever you purchased it & see what they have to say for themselves. If it was a Ccom purchase, I KNOW The Beard will make it right by you.
