Thoughts on Cigar Dividers???
I have been reading many sites about storing your cigars in such maner that each brand not touch each other, so i did some web searches for dividers I did not want the thick type ones that come with humidor, i found some very thin ones on ebay. here http://cgi.ebay.com/CIGAR-DIVIDERS-5-x-2up-x-7-Inch-Premium-Spanish-Cedar-/150447815492?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2307637b44 would like to hear from some experts on their thoughts of if they are a good idea or not...
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1) Those ebay cedar strips are way too expensive - don't bother with them
2)The reason for using dividers is a bit touchy (pun intended) - you wanna separate out certain cigars, but not others. In general, you don't wanna even put infused cigars in the same humidor as your other cigars due to how strong those infused cigars are. Otherwise, just keep your maduro's away from your Connecticuts, otherwise over the course of months/years, the flavors from the maduro may make their way into the connie's - it's not really a big deal unless you leave it like that for a long time or you have a very refined palate.
So to answer your question, using dividers is a good idea, but don't stress yourself out over it - your sticks will be fine without them if you can't find any
...and those dividers take up too much room. i actually took all of mine out so i could cram in 3 more sticks.
if cellophane is so bad for cigars, why do hundreds of world renowned cigar companies put their cigars in cellophane? they have no idea how long they will be sitting on the shelf. it could be years. why take the chance (after all that goes into a cigar) of having it ruined by the packaging?
if you chose to take the cello off at home because you want to age a bit faster, by all means. thats ligit. if you are taking it off because cello is "bad for cigars" then that is a misinformed decision.
me? i leave the cello on... even in the aging humidor.
as far as the dividers go... you are just wasting your time and money and space with dividers. i had a few in my humidor. the dividers i had were small and didnt take up much room either. however, they limit the way you can stack in there. once i took them out i could arrange the cigars in a more efficient manner, and i gained room for 4 more. this may not seem like much, but when you are at the point of having to smoke a cigar or two just to get the lid closed, the extra space is worth it. (IMHO)
Also, these strips aren't gonna do much for your humidity - dividers just aren't thick enough to do much; if you're worried about maintaining humidity, you're better off buying some beads.
i got into cigars to relax.
worrying about if they are organized perfectly doesnt fit in with this at all.
i mean, are you gunna separate every cigar from each other? every blend is different. heck, every wrapper is different. unless you only buy 3 blends and smoke all of one before buying another blend...
iduno... whatever.
you do what you gotta do to make you happy.
but i assure you, it doesnt matter.
but again... whatever. you do what you gotta do.
there is too much fear in keeping cigars from touching. its pointless.
if its to keep your cigars organized, fine. but dont sit there and believe that your cigars will be ruined if your maduros spend a week next to some sungrown. ...even out of the cellophane. its just not that big of a deal. no. it doesnt. if cellophane had humidity protection properties, we would not need a humidor. very often i will get cigars in the mail that have been in the mail for only a day or so but will arrive either over or under humidified... and they have the cellophane on. Cellophane is a porous material designed to keep out liquids but not humidity. it is not plastic at all. cellophane is made from regenerated cellulose from wood, cotton, hemp, or other sources. this makes it permeable to moisture. not to mention that the cellophane is not sealed at the end. the above statement is uninformed at best and at worst is intentionally misleading to get you to buy a product. just trying to sell you $1 worth of material for $7 plus $3 shipping.
"Cigar Divide" is like a TV on a Honeymoon: unnecessary
im not telling you this because i have something to sell. i dont care if you get it or not. i am not looking for your money, or respect, or anything at all. i have nothing to offer you and you probably have nothing to offer me. i am just trying to give out solid, reasonable, rational advice so you can make informed decisions. i want you to enjoy your cigars, not live in constant fear that they are somehow ruined.
To be honest, I am kind of annoyed at the seller for taking advantage of the misconception of cigars "marrying" and for posting wrong information about the properties of cellophane in order to further his sales pitch. He is essentially selling you scrap wood. If anything, you should go down to your local B&M and ask for old cigar boxes, which you can break down and make your own dividers with.
This question within the humidor, however, the plastic foil is rather counter-productive for the preservation of an optimum humidity level.
It is not plastic at all. Cellophane is made from regenerated cellulose from wood, cotton, hemp, or other sources. This makes it permeable to moisture. Not to mention that the cellophane is not sealed at the end.
once again they are only saying that the wrapper is "counter-productive" if one is trying to receive "optimum humidity" and i think anyone can easily say that something i.e. a cigar in its wrapper will not receive the exact same humidity as one not in its wrapper. with that said some people who buy 20 and 30 dollar sticks may prefer to insure their cigars are at their "optimum humidity" maybe its not necessary and maybe it is i dont think it has been proven yet as the debate of weather to keep cellophane on or not still stands to this day there is a post on this forum talking about the very same thing and some cigar manufacturers say remove them and some say its ok to leave them on. last thing as far as the cost 7 bucks is nothing for some dividers that will last me years even if they only cost them 1 for the material they were of very good quality Spanish cedar and professionally cut, besides how much cost in material you think a 7 or 10 dollar cigar has??? I dont think its a fear thing for most people i just think they want to get the most out of their cigars as far as taste go.
But getting back to your post - it's your humidor, so you can do what you want with it, but do you really think it's wise to take an ebay seller's word over these forum-goers who have no financial interest in your humidor? I don't wanna overstate this, but a lot of the guys on these boards know more about cigars than your local B&M owner - I wouldn't go brushing off their advice so lightly.
I'm saying this without any malice or bad intent, so please don't think I mean any disrespect when I say - you're a newbie to cigars, you don't know what you like yet. Your palate is unrefined and there's no chance you'll be able to taste any difference - to say you're "getting the most out of your cigars" isn't accurate when your palate is so young. Remember those names Kuzi dropped? Those are the top blenders, they're all legends in the cigar industry - and even they can't tell the difference between cigars that've been stored together - there's no way you're going to be able to tell the difference.
So please, don't be so quick to brush off excellent advice when it's offered - the advice on this forum is provided by amateurs (compared to the blenders), but these guys are very passionate about cigars, and know more than most B&M owners do when it comes to their passion.
Lastly, read the cellophane post again - the ones who keep their cello on do so to protect the cigars from their hands when they root around their humi, not from other cigars or from other cigar oils.
Maybe its just me but if I was that worried about it, I would just buy another small humidor and totally segregate the sticks.
THANKFULLY I really haven't given it much thought. Nor have any plans to.
I have started storing in cello now due to a previous post. I think its just ensuring the best possible care of the wrapper.
i buy $20 and $30 sticks. and i prefer to keep the cello on so i dont damage the wrapper when i go through the humidor. my cigars are humidified correctly. they smoke nicely. they taste great. taking them out of the cello will let them age faster. it will give them less protection. this is a trade off i have chosen. it will not effect the humidity within the cigar. considering the hundreds of hands that the cigar passes through, and amount of time spent on the tobacco, the effort put in from seed to sale... id say a good amount of cost. i am amazed that we can get them for $7- $10.
cost isnt the issue all the time. making a decision that is based in reality, not a sales pitch is a better value. i agree with that. and this is one area that just makes very little, if any difference especially to anyone but the most refined palates on the planet. I assure you, i am not one of the most refined palates on the planet.
and if youve started smoking cigars only recently, i can only guess that you are not either.
believe what you want, but when someone is trying to sell you something, they will tell you just about anything to get you to buy it. this is all i have to say on the matter.
my comments are not to knock you or your knowledge of cigars the point i am trying to make is ones experence of a cigar might not be the same as the next persons as no one is the same and all have very different thought patterns what one thinks is what one experiences and often what one could possible taste. I can give you a perfect example 2 people drink the same bottle of beer one drinks it from the bottle and one drinks it from a glass both will say that it taste better from their drinking source this is all because of what they believe and what their brain tells them, both could be right based on what is the best for them and if one should decide to pay for that peace of mind then so be it...