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ScottUScottU Posts: 194
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I'm sure this question has been asked before, but after searching the threads I couldn't come up with an answer that I liked.

I have a 50ct humi that I am constantly having humidification problems with. ranging from 60 - 80% and I'm tired of dealing with it. Is there an electric humidifier with a hygrometer that I can fill, put in and have it manage? I saw the humicare but could not find any reviews on it.

I guess the best way of puttting it would be HHHHEEEELLLLPPPP   :) Thanks

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  • tankbonniestankbonnies Posts: 191 ✭
    Buy humidity beads by hearfelt industries. Little to no maintenence and you can buy them at 65 or 70rh.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭
    tankbonnies:
    Buy humidity beads by hearfelt industries. Little to no maintenence and you can buy them at 65 or 70rh.
    i agree with this. all the electric ones out there would turn that 50ct into a 25-30ct.

    if you dont have many cigars in there you should buy more. a humi has a harder time keeping RH when its less than 1/4 full. best range is 50-80% full.
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  • JKTexJKTex Posts: 92
    1+ for the beads.  I had a hard time keeping my 50 ct with glass top near 60% and that's recharging at least once a week.  Added 1 2 oz and 1 1oz (and the Puck which might be 1/4 oz) tube and I'm sitting pretty at about 68% and it pops right back after opening.

    My 100ct adding the same thing to it (along with the out of the box humidifier but leaving it a little drier) is coming down to the 67% to 68% range in top and bottom also.
  • bwcarter54bwcarter54 Posts: 142
    kuzi-are you saying it is not a good idea to keep my humi completly full? I'm thinking of getting a box of 5vegas that would certainly pack my humi full for a little while till I smoked some. I have a 100 count humi. The rh is holding at 68% since I took all the advice I got off of this forum.
  • brc81brc81 Posts: 249 ✭
    I'd say get the beads or get a jar of the humi-care gel. I have a 4oz jar of the humi-care gel in my 50ct desktop humidor and never have a problem. I keep it about 3/4 stocked with smokes and it stays at 67-70% RH. In my coolerdor I have the beads and they keep it 65-67% RH.
  • ScottUScottU Posts: 194
    I would say that my humi is about 50% full... I think it might be bigger than 50ct now that I think about it though. It's 12 1/4 Wide 8 1/2 Deep and 5 1/4 tall. Has anyone hd experience with the humi care or bead packs by Boveda?

    Also need a good digi hydrometer suggestion.


    Thanks for everyones input so far...
  • brc81brc81 Posts: 249 ✭
    ScottU:
    I would say that my humi is about 50% full... I think it might be bigger than 50ct now that I think about it though. It's 12 1/4 Wide 8 1/2 Deep and 5 1/4 tall. Has anyone hd experience with the humi care or bead packs by Boveda?

    Also need a good digi hydrometer suggestion.


    Thanks for everyones input so far...
    One of these would take care of it and you wouldn't have to worry about it anymore http://www.cigar.com/cigars/viewcigar.asp?prod=M-HMC04

    I've got a cheap digital hygrometer that I've tested against the salt test to be off by 3%. I plan to get one of these because they are adjustable. http://www.cigar.com/cigars/viewcigar.asp?prod=M-HMC09
  • JKTexJKTex Posts: 92
    I got the beads and tubes (you can buy the tubes already filled) and another adjustable digi hygrometer from Heartfelt Industries.  $20-$25 for a digi hygo unless you find some fancy/pretty ones. Big Smile [:D]
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭
    bwcarter54:
    kuzi-are you saying it is not a good idea to keep my humi completly full? I'm thinking of getting a box of 5vegas that would certainly pack my humi full for a little while till I smoked some. I have a 100 count humi. The rh is holding at 68% since I took all the advice I got off of this forum.
    no. im saying that only a few sticks in there will not hold a steady RH. then you get to about 1/2 - 3/4 full and it will very well. above that, itll still hold fairly steady (you wont have to worry about it) but you will see a fluctuation from time to time and the recovery time from opening will be a bit longer.

    my humi cant fit another stick.
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  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭
    kuzi16:
    bwcarter54:
    kuzi-are you saying it is not a good idea to keep my humi completly full? I'm thinking of getting a box of 5vegas that would certainly pack my humi full for a little while till I smoked some. I have a 100 count humi. The rh is holding at 68% since I took all the advice I got off of this forum.


    my humi cant fit another stick.
    that's what she said....
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭
    back on topic, I charged a good 80-90 percent of my beads in my 300 count humi and the rh has been staying steady at around 65. I guess it does help to keep them all charged up. been that way for a good few weeks or so.
  • ScottUScottU Posts: 194
    I got it!!! The answer to RH problems is simply to buy more cigars! I bought half a dozen more yesterday (as well as  a digital hydrometer.) and this monring when I popped it open it was at 75%.

    So now, lets reverse the question - What should I do for a humi that has an RH that is too high?

    Thanks All!
    Scott
  • rwheelwrightrwheelwright Posts: 3,296 ✭
    ScottU:
    I got it!!! The answer to RH problems is simply to buy more cigars! I bought half a dozen more yesterday (as well as  a digital hydrometer.) and this monring when I popped it open it was at 75%.

    So now, lets reverse the question - What should I do for a humi that has an RH that is too high?

    Thanks All!
    Scott
    What do you have in there for humidity? When I see one of my humidors get that high, I usually open it for a while. If you have too many devices, then you want to take one or two out. I have one humi that is usually on the high side and that is the one that i just had beetles in. When I finally reseasoned it, I put both devices that came with it in and I was like 80%. So, I pulled one out and it got to around 68. I let the other dry out a little and put it back in and now I am around 71.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭
    ScottU:
    I got it!!! The answer to RH problems is simply to buy more cigars! I bought half a dozen more yesterday (as well as  a digital hydrometer.) and this monring when I popped it open it was at 75%.

    So now, lets reverse the question - What should I do for a humi that has an RH that is too high?

    Thanks All!
    Scott
    well, once your humidor balences out the cigars will help keep your RH where it needs to be. so... more cigars is always a good answer.

    another thing you can do to bring down RH is put in a bit of unseasoned spanish cedar. I dont like that method myself. i keep my beads so they can soak up extra RH. ... if RH gets too high i open the humi for a bit. that hasnt happened in over a year.
    Kuzi's Forum Links Page
  • rwheelwrightrwheelwright Posts: 3,296 ✭
    I gotta get some new devices for the dome humi. I used PG in them and they are getting moldy again. The last time I boiled them but I am sure they will not stand up to another boil. And I though PG was supposed to be naturally anti mold. I bought a new Prometheous device that I have yet to use. I don't have room for beads so that isn't an option at the moment but once I get the inventory down I can get some. I also think that if the device is moldy, well my cigars aren't and 98% of them are in cello.
  • ScottUScottU Posts: 194
    I'm using a tub of ICE Gel Crystals. I may have over-filled it???


  • kuzi16kuzi16 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭
    i thought PG was mold resistant also.

    no room for beads?

    put the beads in where the foam was on the humidifier you currently have...

    or is it a different style than what im thinking ?
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  • rwheelwrightrwheelwright Posts: 3,296 ✭
    They are rectangle devices. Once they come apart the don't go back together. I tried glue once and it smelled so I threw it away.
  • ScottUScottU Posts: 194
    Success! I laid the cap over the ICE jar (without **** it on) and it's maintained at 67 since this afternoon. *Crosses fingers*
  • ScottUScottU Posts: 194
    Just an update to anyone that may have future issues:

    I added a dozen new sticks, and a digital hydrometer. With the lid of the ICE jar off it was keeping them about 72% RH, so I loosely screwed the cap on the jar and it's maintaining 65-66% beautifully.

    Thanks to all for their input/advise. (Plus it's a good excuse to keep my humi more full Big Smile [:D])
  • adrianganemadrianganem Posts: 15
    kuzi16:
    ScottU:
    I got it!!! The answer to RH problems is simply to buy more cigars! I bought half a dozen more yesterday (as well as  a digital hydrometer.) and this monring when I popped it open it was at 75%.

    So now, lets reverse the question - What should I do for a humi that has an RH that is too high?

    Thanks All!
    Scott
    well, once your humidor balences out the cigars will help keep your RH where it needs to be. so... more cigars is always a good answer.

    another thing you can do to bring down RH is put in a bit of unseasoned spanish cedar. I dont like that method myself. i keep my beads so they can soak up extra RH. ... if RH gets too high i open the humi for a bit. that hasnt happened in over a year.


    Kuzi, thanks for the light!

    How long is a "bit"?

    My RH is getting a little higher (75-80%) now that the cold temperatures are gone. I'm in Mexico so hot humid climates are a normal part of any day.

    Is there anything else I can use to balance out the humidity in there besides more cigars and cedar?

    Again, thanks!
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