Amos Umwhat:I've always believed them to be long-filler, great little cigar. I've never had any do what you're describing. I wonder if we're coming down to the end of these? Or, if there was some kind of storage problem, prior to your acquisition, of course.
Heavy:Man, that's crazy. I love those too. Maybe that's why they're so damn cheap? Oh well, as long as they smoke OK i'll continue to get them. And do you call that 'mixed filler' vs. 'short filler'? Kinda like the c.com house blends?
NOBLE 6:I just bought 10 of those and don't recall any of that happening. Maybe I need to pay closer attention.
blurr:I don't know the advertised writeup, but bob they're 40 bucks for a bundle of 20. Think they're saving somehow to still make money on that? I've heard they taste great though, so we all win if you're into budget good tasting smokes.
Bob Luken: NOBLE 6:I just bought 10 of those and don't recall any of that happening. Maybe I need to pay closer attention.
If I had smoked this particular one cigar,........I'd would have had a mouthfull of dust at some point. Next time you have one in your hands tap the foot, see if there's much dust falling out of yours.
Rhamlin:You might want to pm Alex with a pic of it let him know what all happened. I'm sure he'd like to know about this. And you'd probably get replacements. I've got 3 of them left doubt I'll rip into one but I might do a little tugging on the the filler at the foot to see if anything seems weird. Think ill try it tonight.
blurr:Sorry I can't go back a page to quote, but whoever said these are maybe running to their end in my opinion had it. They've been running these and selling like hot cakes for value great tasting smokes for years. The tobacco had to end, or they're just filing with bits to continue profits on these. I'll be avoiding these from now on, unless I see some evidence this was a mishap. I call a death to the great budget smokes of gh vintage 02.
catfishbluezz:I can shoot George a message if you like, he's a cool cat
Amos Umwhat:I mentioned previously thinking that we may be coming to the end on these, because of the "one time" production, and am curious as well. I also must add that when these first came out I was seriously impressed with them. The first few mazos I got were incredible. Chocolate, spice, held an ash up to 2 inches or longer. I remember telling my wife "I'm going to be buying lots of these, they're as good or better than many a $10.00 cigar I've had.""More cigars? Huh." (she smokes menthol cigarettes, bleah!)
By the next year, they weren't quite the same. The wrappers seemed to lack the oily sheen, the chocolate notes less pronounced, that certain Gran Habano spice was still there, though, and for the price (which I note has gone up) they were still my "go-to" cigar for quite awhile. I've wondered for awhile, though, how long will these be available, and will the quality continue to deteriorate?Also, when the Churchills came out, they were too new for smoking. Smoked very poorly unless dry-boxed extensively. There was quite a stir over it, here, I remember Fla-Gypsy being quite vociferously outraged. Me too. Anyone smoking the churchills these days? Have they improved in smokability?