Hint of manure?
"the wrapper has a strong earth aroma with a hint of manure. This is what I expected maduro corojo cigar."
Hint of manure? I mean - yeah some cigars, I guess smell like sh*t, but really? Idk. I personally think of other terms to describe the smell I'm getting. Most of the times its not manure when you think about it. It reminds me of the dried out hay or whatever they feed the animals with (not corn)... I associate it with a barn. Yes, there is manure, but idk...
How many of you and how often do you come across this "hint of manure"?
I personally would not find a cigar appealing if I see this in a review... Anyway... It just sounds odd...
Hint of manure.... Hint of manure... Manure essence... Pleasant hint of manure... idk...
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the word he was looking for was "barnyard"
i read an opinion oce from a guy that said only the best cigars smell like cow ***.
i smoke some good cigars, and there is a disproportionate amount that DO smell of barnyard.1 -
Absolutely, I have my nose up to a Gurkha Monogram right now and by God it smells like a horse barn. Which is NOT bad mind you.0
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There is no way getting around it. It is fertilizer and can and will aid to the aroma of a cigar. After changing multiple diapers for the past 3.5 years, I guess I don't smell the poop in my cigars, but I'm sure it's there.0
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jeff_connors should be pooping in his lawn to make those plants really unleash!0
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Lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll0----I dont know why but this has struck me as one of the funniest posts or quotes I have ever seen-----and rather appropriate actually for many Gurkhas and every Victor Sinclair I have ever seen0
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I agree, a lot of them do. I remember that was everyone's take on the Nub Maduro. For some reason, I've found most of the darker wrappers have that smell. That could just be me though.kuzi16:the word he was looking for was "barnyard"
i read an opinion oce from a guy that said only the best cigars smell like cow ***.
i smoke some good cigars, and there is a disproportionate amount that DO smell of barnyard.0 -
Matt Marvel:
I agree, a lot of them do. I remember that was everyone's take on the Nub Maduro. For some reason, I've found most of the darker wrappers have that smell. That could just be me though.kuzi16:the word he was looking for was "barnyard"
i read an opinion oce from a guy that said only the best cigars smell like cow ***.
i smoke some good cigars, and there is a disproportionate amount that DO smell of barnyard.
Having grown up on a farm the cigars with a 'barnyard' smell bring a smile to my face ...and most of them are damn good ...I'm just sayin ...0 -
Interesting comments here... I too found this quote rather funny and interesting. I guess I would have to agree that most cigars have this smell, but I still cannot freely call it "hint of manure"... I'd rather "barnyard". Is it really mostly maduros with this smell? Any ideas on why that is? Who here was a chemistry whiz?0
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Renaissance_Man:Interesting comments here... I too found this quote rather funny and interesting. I guess I would have to agree that most cigars have this smell, but I still cannot freely call it "hint of manure"... I'd rather "barnyard". Is it really mostly maduros with this smell? Any ideas on why that is? Who here was a chemistry whiz?
Manure ....Hint of Barnyard ...You guys are so damn uppity
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its the fermentation process of the maduro process will do that. its a very slow and controlled break down of tobacco.... not too unlike a stomach breaking down veggies/grass...1
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My girlfriend regularly tells me that I smell like $hit after I have smoked a maduro cigar. Tasty!!1
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I actually thought the same (as did my girlfriend) about the Rocky Patel Autumn. It was a great smoke though0
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HA! the way/what I eat!! i would most likely take out half the neighborhood !!!!Lasabar:jeff_connors should be pooping in his lawn to make those plants really unleash!0 -
Come on man! Its a sure way to get that super full body camacho stylejeff_connors:
HA! the way/what I eat!! i would most likely take out half the neighborhood !!!!Lasabar:jeff_connors should be pooping in his lawn to make those plants really unleash!! And some toast in the "aftertaste"... 0 -
a heavy nutty overtone?1
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Noticed the same thing about the smell. Interestingly, the best cigars I've smoked to date, have smelled like what come out of a cow's @ss.
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The first review I read for Davidoff's Yamasa said the wrapper tasted like dog ****. Hopefully I'll gain the expertise to distinguish between dog and cow **** as my palate develops further.Now this is not the end of the cigar. It is not even the beginning of the end of the cigar. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning of the cigar.3
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Think grassy s*** vs. meaty s***.
Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
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So that is what they mean by "Barnyard" I have been wondering for a while now
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"That's undertone, you idiot!"jeff_connors said:a heavy nutty overtone?
(Sorry @jeff_connors, you're not an idiot. It's a quote from a cigar commercial on a podcast
) @ScotchnSmoke sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones.2 -
Does Ghurka's have sacred undertones then?Now this is not the end of the cigar. It is not even the beginning of the end of the cigar. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning of the cigar.0
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Sometimes the bunchero washes his hands after going to the bathroom and sometimes he doesn't.
Worst case scenario would be finding a piece of corn in the cigar.
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So the barnyard smell is 4-ethyl-phenol, according to that article.
Here's a patent describing the process of deriving components from tobacco biomass that basically says that you get 4-ethyl-phenol from fermenting tobacco. Maduro cigar wrappers undergo a longer fermentation process and oscuros even longer. I did not read much of this dense patent.
https://patents.google.com/patent/EP2872642A1/en
Here's a good article on 4-Ethylphenol that describes the smell, taste, and production: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/4-ethylphenol
I scanned the forum for barnyard and the prevailing results show barnyard pre-light notes from heavy maduros (and oscuros), Pennsylvania broadleaf wrappers, and Corojo wrappers.
@kuzi16 said: "The Criollo strain can be documented all the way back to Columbus's visits to the Caribbean. It is the classic Cuban tobacco. It is rich and round in flavor with a spice to it. The Corojo tobacco plant is a derivation of the Criollo. It was created in Cuba through natural selection to resist mold. The taste is a bit more barnyard (in a good way) and it still has a spice to it."
Here's a random selection of cigar results with barnyard aroma descriptions I found from others. Some of these results are from a decade ago so your mileage may vary now. Not all of these are necessarily great cigars.
Padron - barnyard / wet hay
La Aurora Maduro
Padilla Cazadores
Alec Bradley Maxx Brazil
Gurkha Park Avenue
Pinar del Rio Habano Sun Grown
The Island Tiger Reserva (Puerto Rican)
Kristoff Ligero Maduro
Black Pearl
Gran Habano Vintage 2002
Arturo Fuente Opus
Cain Daytona
Padilla 68 Oscuro Salomons
Carlos Torano exodus 50 year
San Lotano Maduro
Viaje Roman Candle
Fonseca No. 1
Rocky Patel The Edge
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I signed up for a chatgpt account just now after my boss mentioned it on our team call this morning. It's a natural language AI lookup/research tool. Here's some interesting questions and answers for 4 EP.
What flavors does 4 ethyl phenol create in coffee?
4-ethylphenol is a chemical compound that is sometimes found in coffee. It is a derivative of phenol, and it has a distinctive musty, barnyard-like odor. When present in coffee, it can contribute to the overall flavor profile of the coffee, but it is not typically considered a desirable flavor on its own. It is usually only detected at very low levels in coffee, and it is not known to create any specific flavors on its own.
What is the source of 4-ethylphenol in coffee?
4-ethylphenol is a chemical compound that is produced by certain microorganisms during the fermentation process. It can also be found in some plant materials, including some varieties of coffee. In coffee, 4-ethylphenol is usually produced during the roasting process, when the coffee beans are heated to high temperatures. The precise source of 4-ethylphenol in coffee can vary depending on a number of factors, including the specific type of coffee and the conditions under which it is grown and processed.
what is the source of 4-ethylphenol in cigars
4-ethylphenol is a chemical compound that is produced by certain microorganisms during the fermentation process. It can also be found in some plant materials, including tobacco. In cigars, 4-ethylphenol is usually produced during the curing and fermentation processes, when the tobacco leaves are exposed to heat and moisture. The precise source of 4-ethylphenol in cigars can vary depending on a number of factors, including the specific type of tobacco and the conditions under which it is grown and processed.
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Not impressed, high school writing at best. Answering the question about source the bot grabbed a few salient facts and boilerplated them, plugging in the product and process without offering anything more than a vague answer. I wouldn't trust it for more than Readers Digest answers.
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