Hint of manure?
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So... I was reading this review and something caught my attention:
"the wrapper has a strong earth aroma with a hint of manure. This is what I expected maduro corojo cigar."
Hint of manure? I mean - yeah some cigars, I guess smell like sh*t, but really? Idk. I personally think of other terms to describe the smell I'm getting. Most of the times its not manure when you think about it. It reminds me of the dried out hay or whatever they feed the animals with (not corn)... I associate it with a barn. Yes, there is manure, but idk...
How many of you and how often do you come across this "hint of manure"?
I personally would not find a cigar appealing if I see this in a review... Anyway... It just sounds odd...
Hint of manure.... Hint of manure... Manure essence... Pleasant hint of manure... idk...
"the wrapper has a strong earth aroma with a hint of manure. This is what I expected maduro corojo cigar."
Hint of manure? I mean - yeah some cigars, I guess smell like sh*t, but really? Idk. I personally think of other terms to describe the smell I'm getting. Most of the times its not manure when you think about it. It reminds me of the dried out hay or whatever they feed the animals with (not corn)... I associate it with a barn. Yes, there is manure, but idk...
How many of you and how often do you come across this "hint of manure"?
I personally would not find a cigar appealing if I see this in a review... Anyway... It just sounds odd...
Hint of manure.... Hint of manure... Manure essence... Pleasant hint of manure... idk...
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i read an opinion oce from a guy that said only the best cigars smell like cow ***.
i smoke some good cigars, and there is a disproportionate amount that DO smell of barnyard.
Having grown up on a farm the cigars with a 'barnyard' smell bring a smile to my face ...and most of them are damn good ...I'm just sayin ...
Manure ....Hint of Barnyard ...You guys are so damn uppity
Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
(Sorry @jeff_connors, you're not an idiot. It's a quote from a cigar commercial on a podcast )
Worst case scenario would be finding a piece of corn in the cigar.
https://www.cigars-connect.com/where-does-the-barnyard-flavor-in-cigars-come-from/
So the barnyard smell is 4-ethyl-phenol, according to that article.
Here's a patent describing the process of deriving components from tobacco biomass that basically says that you get 4-ethyl-phenol from fermenting tobacco. Maduro cigar wrappers undergo a longer fermentation process and oscuros even longer. I did not read much of this dense patent.
https://patents.google.com/patent/EP2872642A1/en
Here's a good article on 4-Ethylphenol that describes the smell, taste, and production: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/4-ethylphenol
I scanned the forum for barnyard and the prevailing results show barnyard pre-light notes from heavy maduros (and oscuros), Pennsylvania broadleaf wrappers, and Corojo wrappers.
@kuzi16 said: "The Criollo strain can be documented all the way back to Columbus's visits to the Caribbean. It is the classic Cuban tobacco. It is rich and round in flavor with a spice to it. The Corojo tobacco plant is a derivation of the Criollo. It was created in Cuba through natural selection to resist mold. The taste is a bit more barnyard (in a good way) and it still has a spice to it."
Here's a random selection of cigar results with barnyard aroma descriptions I found from others. Some of these results are from a decade ago so your mileage may vary now. Not all of these are necessarily great cigars.
Padron - barnyard / wet hay
La Aurora Maduro
Padilla Cazadores
Alec Bradley Maxx Brazil
Gurkha Park Avenue
Pinar del Rio Habano Sun Grown
The Island Tiger Reserva (Puerto Rican)
Kristoff Ligero Maduro
Black Pearl
Gran Habano Vintage 2002
Arturo Fuente Opus
Cain Daytona
Padilla 68 Oscuro Salomons
Carlos Torano exodus 50 year
San Lotano Maduro
Viaje Roman Candle
Fonseca No. 1
Rocky Patel The Edge
Red Meat Lovers cigar
I signed up for a chatgpt account just now after my boss mentioned it on our team call this morning. It's a natural language AI lookup/research tool. Here's some interesting questions and answers for 4 EP.
What flavors does 4 ethyl phenol create in coffee?
What is the source of 4-ethylphenol in coffee?
what is the source of 4-ethylphenol in cigars
Not impressed, high school writing at best. Answering the question about source the bot grabbed a few salient facts and boilerplated them, plugging in the product and process without offering anything more than a vague answer. I wouldn't trust it for more than Readers Digest answers.