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ShadowInTheMoonShadowInTheMoon Posts: 507 ✭✭
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I just want to say how stupid it is to not have adjustment buttons on Analog Hydrometers. I bought 2 Zederkoff Square Hygrometer and both are reading %15-19 low on the salt test. According to them i need to submerge my cigars in water for them to be at %70 lol (no calibration needed because they will be in the garbage)
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  • No_one21No_one21 Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭
    No no no this is a common cigar storage technique. I'd say about 20% of us submerge our cigars in distilled water 24/7 to keep humidity consistent. It's like using water pillows, but this is more of a water bath.
  • ShadowInTheMoonShadowInTheMoon Posts: 507 ✭✭
    Oh that must be the missing 103 thing on the list noobs need to know. I thought there was just one other thing i needed to know
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  • jlmartajlmarta Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not trying to be facetious but analog hygrometers are so notoriously inaccurate that I can't imagine why anyone would want to use them, let alone adjust them. Do yourself a favor and toss those worthless pieces of crap into the trash and replace them with digital hygros. Capisce??
  • ShadowInTheMoonShadowInTheMoon Posts: 507 ✭✭
    Sorry i got mixed up. Its digital hydrometers that i have. The square ones are the ones that have the problem image
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  • No_one21No_one21 Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭
    lol wow ok well then I say get ones made by a better company. I really think xikar makes a great product and their warranty is pretty damn great.
  • CigaryCigary Posts: 630 ✭
    There are good hygros out there that don't cost more than $8...I have about 20 of them. Analogues tend to get a bad name but that doesn't mean they don't work...you just have to salt test them to ensure reliability. Technically speaking there is a difference between hydrometer and hygrometer....a hydrometer measures the density of the liquid while the hygrometer measures the condensation but we know what you were talking about.
  • ShadowInTheMoonShadowInTheMoon Posts: 507 ✭✭
    Ill have a look around and see what i cant find. Im glad i did the test instead of taking them at face value because it did say "A top-notch sensor ensures an industry leading accuracy of +/- 2% RH with no adjustment ever". Ill check my B&M then surf the web.
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  • jlmartajlmarta Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ShadowInTheMoon:
    Ill have a look around and see what i cant find. Im glad i did the test instead of taking them at face value because it did say "A top-notch sensor ensures an industry leading accuracy of +/- 2% RH with no adjustment ever". Ill check my B&M then surf the web.


    For whatever it's worth, I got my adjustable hygros from Heartfelt. Dave is wonderful to deal with and worth the extra buck or two, IMO. And I've never had a problem with those I got from him....
  • ShadowInTheMoonShadowInTheMoon Posts: 507 ✭✭
    jlmarta:
    ShadowInTheMoon:
    Ill have a look around and see what i cant find. Im glad i did the test instead of taking them at face value because it did say "A top-notch sensor ensures an industry leading accuracy of +/- 2% RH with no adjustment ever". Ill check my B&M then surf the web.


    For whatever it's worth, I got my adjustable hygros from Heartfelt. Dave is wonderful to deal with and worth the extra buck or two, IMO. And I've never had a problem with those I got from him....
    Ill look into that. I paid $20 for each one. Dont know if i can return them but i need abother one (3 total) and those look like what i need
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  • thebeardthebeard Posts: 29 ✭✭

    Hey Shadow, this sucks. We'll test our inventory over the next week to make sure its not a widespread problem.  My only concern is that the bottlecap of salt you used for the test has too much water in it.  I dont know if that would throw off the readings or not - just the only thing i would have done differently.  Crazy how all 4 hygrometers read differently!

    We can set up an exchange for you, or if you want to try a different hygrometer we can do that too.  Email me at service@cigar.com if you want to discuss further!

  • ShadowInTheMoonShadowInTheMoon Posts: 507 ✭✭
    thebeard:

    Hey Shadow, this sucks. We'll test our inventory over the next week to make sure its not a widespread problem.  My only concern is that the bottlecap of salt you used for the test has too much water in it.  I dont know if that would throw off the readings or not - just the only thing i would have done differently.  Crazy how all 4 hygrometers read differently!

    We can set up an exchange for you, or if you want to try a different hygrometer we can do that too.  Email me at service@cigar.com if you want to discuss further!

    I didn't get it from CCom( but I should have) That's why I'm worried about the return. I know both analog are pretty close but the only time I have gotten the digital ones above what's in the picture was in a sauna. I'll look around on CCom and see what you guys have.
    I'll retest tonight with less water and see what I get.
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  • BlueDudeBlueDude Posts: 7 ✭
    Your salt is too wet. The salt should be just damp enough so the grains hold their shape without dissolving.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭
    4 parts salt.
    1 part distilled


    And one other minor detail...
    hydrometers measure specific gravity.
    hygrometers measure humidity.
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  • No_one21No_one21 Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭
    If his salt is too wet though, would that not increase humidity? And therefore point to an even greater disparity in his digital readouts?
  • Bob_LukenBob_Luken Posts: 10,711 ✭✭✭✭✭
    kuzi16:
    4 parts salt.
    1 part distilled


    And one other minor detail...
    hydrometers measure specific gravity.
    hygrometers measure humidity.
    Cool. I'll try this exact ratio next time. Never heard a formula for measurable quantities before. I always just made sure it was "wet" and not "soupy".
  • dr_frankenstein56dr_frankenstein56 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭
    could always throw a boveda in the pack... they do make calibration packets if your concerned.

    Aj
  • ShadowInTheMoonShadowInTheMoon Posts: 507 ✭✭
    No_one21:
    If his salt is too wet though, would that not increase humidity? And therefore point to an even greater disparity in his digital readouts?
    Thats what i would think as well. I did retest last night and they are still reading %10-15 low
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