Guess I'm just not a DE fan because this think has nothing for me. So far theirs only 2 that I like Undercrown and Nica Rustica. I've had the 9 quite a few times only ok in my book. Had T52 a couple times all I can say for that was I've had worse cigars, this one just has nothing a little power but that's it. Glad I've never gone out of my way to try any of the hard to find stuff.