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Last weekend, Barack Obama invited five rap stars to the White House to help with his "Brother's Keeper" initiative, to encourage young black men to avoid incarceration for undocumented acts of wealth redistribution.

The president had barely finished speaking when rapper Rick Ross's court-ordered ankle bracelet went off. Yes, a man selected by Mr. Obama to serve as an exemplary racial role model has to wear an ankle bracelet until his trial for aggravated assault and battery, pistol-whipping, and kidnapping (second arrest this month, by the way). Tragically, Ross is not also facing charges for rapping in public.

Call me old fashioned (liberals will surely call me a cross-burning racist) but I have to think the best way to discourage misogynistic, criminally anti-social behavior among black youths may not be honoring rappers who make their millions celebrating misogynistic, criminally anti-social behavior.








Ben Carson, by odd contrast, was not invited.

“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)



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  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat West TNPosts: 4,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What?  No Bill Cosby?

    Well, I'd follow that one in the middle a ways, Bill would, too. ;)
    "The change in culture has a lot to do with the eclipse of integrity and honesty and decency, and the normalization of corruption, deceit, and mendacity.  It's all about manipulating your political opponents to diminish them and show that they have nothing to say or contribute.  People no longer have dialogue. It's all monologue."  - - Cornell West
  • kswildcatkswildcat Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2016
    Any yall remember Fat Boys and Run DMC? Now that's some rap I can listen to. To me what these artists (using that term loosely) put out today does more harm then good. 

    Then you have Bono, Bano or whatever the hell his name is telling congress how we are not doing enough in foreign aid and such, that if we do more that will settle things down in the middle east.. We should also send people like Chris Rock over to entertain ISIS.. I'm sure that's right at the top of Chris Rock's to do list.. If he agrees to the nonsense I will personally buy his plane ticket as long as he agrees to do it without any military escort or anything. And no I won't waste my money on a round trip ticket.  :)
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  • dirtdudedirtdude AZPosts: 4,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
    smdh
    A little dirt never hurt
  • kswildcatkswildcat Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Usaf06 said:
    pelirrojo said:
    It is often thought(more so now than in years past) that the youth of our nation are more likely to respond to a message coming from a figure from pop culture. That's precisely who these people are, names our youth are familiar with; particularly black youth. Regardless of their past indiscretions, the message is there and more likely to resonate with its target audience. It's more fun to nitpick everything the president does though.  
    Got news for you, every president is nitpicked. Bush still gets blamed. Bottom line is Obuma is terrible and only widened the divide between races and the economic status.
    Democrats still blame Bush for 911. Terrorists must have looked in their crystal ball to see he would be the president when they started training while Clinton was in office. Now I'm far from a Bush fan, I don't think he was a very good president. 

    Then Obama's famous speech on Bush's un-American use of the China atm  raising the debt. Obama had that China Atm moved next to his bed and plays it like a slot machine. I don't think Obama can give a speech without telling us how un-American we are. 
  • The3StogiesThe3Stogies MainePosts: 2,653 ✭✭✭✭
    Like to see the transcripts of that meeting, all for show really, what could they have come up with?  Sad thing is I just shrugged it off, times have changed.  These guys going to the White House, Boston and Pearl Jam have joined Bruce Springsteen and the Pee St Band in banning NC, c'mon.  I grew up listening to Boston and Bruce, he seemed different back then.

    Springsteen I saw back in the 70's when Born To Run came out, before he had muscles and an attitude.  Great show, wasn't much flash and dash back then just the music and fans.  What about those fans Bruce in NC now?  Those who spent their coin on overpriced tickets, making arrangements looking forward to seeing you play?  Could have stated your feelings and done the show instead of grandstanding, should still be about the fans not you.  **** with other peoples time and money, not cool.

    I compare that to Rory Gallagher, one of my favorites, maybe because I'm Irish.  He was out of Ireland and there were troubles there back then.  Didn't stop him from going to Belfast, Jan.1, 1972 and doing a show.  Politics didn't matter, bombs going off before and during the show didn't matter, once the music started you couldn't hear them anyways.  They were asked to cancel the show, no one had dared play there in 2 years.  But there were fans there that wanted to see him, so they went.  

    Got off topic, rant"s over.


  • pelirrojopelirrojo Farmington, NMPosts: 1,759 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2016

    Hello pot, meet kettle. 

    Perhaps H.W.'s luncheon with Easy-E is a better example. 

    Keep clutching those pearls. 
  • WylaffWylaff Reno, NVPosts: 4,282 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Racist.








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  • Usaf06Usaf06 FloridaPosts: 7,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    kswildcat said:
    pelirrojo said:

    Hello pot, meet kettle. 

    Perhaps H.W.'s luncheon with Easy-E is a better example. 

    Keep clutching those pearls. 
    That's really pulling for straws.. What exactly was the anititive Nixon wanted help from Elvis? 

    Please help me with what songs Elvis glorified killing cops, crime, drug use and so on..


    Ironically he is the same person probably voting for Hillary Clinton and can ignore the 20,000 emails she deleted from her own personal server (felony).
    "I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form."
    -- Winston Churchill
  • jgibvjgibv John G.Posts: 9,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Usaf06 said:

    Ironically he is the same person probably voting for Hillary Clinton and can ignore the 20,000 emails she deleted from her own personal server (felony).
    nick  @usaf06 , what ever are you talking about? 
    shillary has been "transparent" through this whole thing......lololol





    *** sorry, off topic thread jacking.  i'll go back to my cave now ***

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  • kswildcatkswildcat Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2016
    They have to be sending blinders to registered democrats. Govt. issued, courtesy of the the national debt. of course. 
  • pelirrojopelirrojo Farmington, NMPosts: 1,759 ✭✭✭
  • kswildcatkswildcat Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    pelirrojo said:
    That's how we fill.. Still waiting for your response on the Nixon luncheon with Elvis and the Elvis songs.
  • pelirrojopelirrojo Farmington, NMPosts: 1,759 ✭✭✭
    I do appreciate someone taking the effort to disagree with every single one of my posts. That takes anititive. 
  • jgibvjgibv John G.Posts: 9,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
    pelirrojo said:
    I do appreciate someone taking the effort to disagree with every single one of my posts. That takes anititive. 
    they're gettin' you too, 'eh? 



    * I have a new address as of 3/24/18 *

  • pelirrojopelirrojo Farmington, NMPosts: 1,759 ✭✭✭
    kswildcat said:
    pelirrojo said:
    That's how we fill.. Still waiting for your response on the Nixon luncheon with Elvis and the Elvis songs.
    The initiative* that Nixon and Elvis were working on was the war on drugs. You know, that massive waste of money that makes our country have the highest rate of incarceration in the world. 

    https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/nsa/elvis/elnix.html

    Feel* free to read through the documents archived on that link and observe the absurdity that was this exchange. Elvis brought Nixon a gun. He showed up at the Whitehouse with a gun.

    Presley had a pretty widely known relationship with drugs e.g. "Elvis' personal physician, Dr. George Nichopoulos, was found to have written Elvis 199 prescriptions totaling more than 10,000 doses of sedatives, amphetamines and narcotics in the first 8 months of 1977."

    As for the luncheon, that was George Herbert Walker Bush that met with rapper Easy-E.


  • kswildcatkswildcat Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    pelirrojo said:
    It is often thought(more so now than in years past) that the youth of our nation are more likely to respond to a message coming from a figure from pop culture. That's precisely who these people are, names our youth are familiar with; particularly black youth. Regardless of their past indiscretions, the message is there and more likely to resonate with its target audience. It's more fun to nitpick everything the president does though.  
    I can think of many role models that made it from nothing to something through hard work and sacrifice that would have been much better choices.

    Although most took advantage of their God Givin talents it was still not easy. For every pro athlete there is probably 5 better that didn't make it thru poor choices and taking the easy way out. Some were lucky and in the right place at the right time but still had to work hard. Same for all professions and people of every nationality.

    Although the American dream is not what it use to be it's still here. You cannot achieve it by being flat azz and waiting for others to hand it to you. You cannot sit and wait for opportunities to come to you, you have to go to them. Sitting waiting, complaining and blaming others for your short fall will get you nowhere.  No race is holding another race back.  

    These people Obama invited do nothing more then make a killing of the backs of the people the claim to be for. They sell no hope or dreams. What they do sell is blaming others, crime and hate.
  • kswildcatkswildcat Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2016
    I can probably (and do) bash Bush better then you. I'm not at all afraid pointing out when he (or any others) were wrong. That's the difference. Although Bush was terrible he was far better then what we have now.

    War on drugs is a massive waste of money the way it's being fought.  Are you saying we should not punish drug addicts and people pushing that poison on others, especially Lil kids? We should freely let it happen? 
  • pelirrojopelirrojo Farmington, NMPosts: 1,759 ✭✭✭
    It's like a cliché factory up in here. 


  • pelirrojopelirrojo Farmington, NMPosts: 1,759 ✭✭✭
    How is it that people can be so outrageously hypocritical and not even be self-aware enough to realize it? 
  • kswildcatkswildcat Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I done said Bush was  wrong lol
  • Bob_LukenBob_Luken already sucked before joining forum,.....just sayin'.Posts: 6,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    pelirrojo said:
    How is it that people can be so outrageously hypocritical and not even be self-aware enough to realize it? 
    Isn't it a given that hypocritical people are not self aware? I dunno. Seems like a silly rhetorical question to ask but, silly me for thinkin' ,.......... Haha. 

    Nevermind,.. here's my specific question for you Gordon.

    pelirrojo said:


    As for the luncheon, that was George Herbert Walker Bush that met with rapper Easy-E.


    Bush 41 met Easy-E? "Met"? As in shook hands and spoke with each other? I was thinking that it happened because you said they met. And, your apples to apples type of comparison kinda' depends on it. 

    But, it says right there in the article you posted that he (Easy E Wright) didn't actually meet with the president. According to your own example,.... he merely attended a luncheon.  

    Was there a different meeting that you forgot to mention? I can't find any photos of these two famous people together. 


  • pelirrojopelirrojo Farmington, NMPosts: 1,759 ✭✭✭
    I assumed the "invite only" part would have covered that.
  • Bob_LukenBob_Luken already sucked before joining forum,.....just sayin'.Posts: 6,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2016
    pelirrojo said:
    I assumed the "invite only" part would have covered that.
    I don't understand what your reply means. Are you saying they met? Or not? 

    If you only read the first paragraph of your own example and "assumed" that they met then you simply made a mistake. But, if that's the case are you willing to withdraw your apples to apples comparison? Because, it doesn't hold up at all if that's the case. They are not even close to being similar. Attending an invite only event with 1400 others who were also invited, isn't exactly a meeting is it?  I could be wrong, maybe there was a different meeting. Are you googling now to see if there was another meeting? Let me know if you find it. After all, you said it was a better comparison than the Elvis meeting. Right?  


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  • jlmartajlmarta 50 miles from ParadisePosts: 6,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll tell ya what worries me - consider this scenario for a moment. 

    Lets say Billary gets elected. There ain't a chance in hell that she'll be brought to task for her numerous legal and moral misdeeds - email security, Benghazi, etc. once that happens. That's what she's hoping for. If she loses the election it'll be a whole different ball game for her,,,,
  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat West TNPosts: 4,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    webmost said:



    Oddly enough, even here in the Land of the Free there are plenty of people who crave tyranny.


    We are witnessing the rapid self-destruction of a historically rare experiment in liberty.


    Got this part right, sure enough, and they're called Democrats & Republicans.  Plenty of evidence on both sides that their definition of liberty remains:

     "I get to do what I want, you have to do what I say". 

    Over and over and over into infinity.
    "The change in culture has a lot to do with the eclipse of integrity and honesty and decency, and the normalization of corruption, deceit, and mendacity.  It's all about manipulating your political opponents to diminish them and show that they have nothing to say or contribute.  People no longer have dialogue. It's all monologue."  - - Cornell West
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