Trump Sucks.

That's all. I know I've just alienated the majority of the forum but **** it. He sucks he has no substance. He prays of the intellectually immature with his fear mongering, How can one take him seriously?

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Amos_Umwhat

jlmarta said:

Well, I've undoubtedly said it before, but I don't think Trump is the perfect candidate. I do think he's the best of what we're being offered.

With the memory of Harry Truman in the back of my mind, I do like Trump's brashness. I like the fact that he can't be bought. I like that he's supremely confident in himself. And I'm pleased that it appears he's found himself a new and better barber (or stylist, whichever).

All of these are important traits, aren't they??

I think so. It's about time that someone represented us to the world as winners, and tells them we don't owe them a dam thing, in fact, it's usually the other way around.

I really appreciate Trump's message that "we're out of the Nation-building business." You can't just give our values to other cultures, they have to first want it, then pay for it with blood sweat and tears, like we did.

For some reason, human nature only appreciates benefits we suffer for. That which is freely given is despised. Just ask Jesus.

Bob_Luken

As long as we don't point fingers at our forum brothers (and sisters) and tell them how foolish, naive, ignorant, or hateful they are to feel the way they do or vote the way they wish, it ought to be fine,.... right? Supporting your own candidate shouldn't include diminishing the character of your friends who would vote differently, should it?

webmost

Bob_Luken said:

As long as we don't point fingers at our forum brothers (and sisters) and tell them how foolish, naive, ignorant, or hateful they are to feel the way they do or vote the way they wish, it ought to be fine,.... right? Supporting your own candidate shouldn't include diminishing the character of your friends who would vote differently, should it?

Well of course it does, you PC nancy pants eye bag dandelion

https://youtu.be/eGzxLb0drUQ

Amos_Umwhat

I'm offended!

Stop the planet! Everybody OFF!

Bob_Luken

webmost said:

Bob_Luken said:

As long as we don't point fingers at our forum brothers (and sisters) and tell them how foolish, naive, ignorant, or hateful they are to feel the way they do or vote the way they wish, it ought to be fine,.... right? Supporting your own candidate shouldn't include diminishing the character of your friends who would vote differently, should it?

Well of course it does, you PC nancy pants eye bag dandelion

"eye bag dandelion" ???

PC nancy pants doesn't offend me but that other thing,..?..... I'm just not sure.

dirtdude

now thats some funny chit right there

NorthSideSmoke

jlmarta said:

. And I'm pleased that it appears he's found himself a new and better barber (or stylist, whichever).

All of these are important traits, aren't they??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH43zEqzhJE

Lee.mcglynn

All I can say is if trump which bankrupted too many times in his life! Gets elected I hope he deports me. Yup I'm a citizen but if your claiming bankruptcy that many times and wants to make America great again well really?!?! His business ideas are horrible and he is a bully to the whole of trying to make money! He says he will pay a certain amount for something and then won't pay the person for months after all is done. Then he says well try to sue me or take a massive hit on what's owed. So this is good for our economy?! IMO trump can suck it since out of the three he is the bigger evil for what could be 4 horrible years of crap!

webmost

Lee.mcglynn said:

All I can say is if trump which bankrupted too many times in his life! Gets elected I hope he deports me. Yup I'm a citizen but if your claiming bankruptcy that many times and wants to make America great again well really?!?! His business ideas are horrible and he is a bully to the whole of trying to make money! He says he will pay a certain amount for something and then won't pay the person for months after all is done. Then he says well try to sue me or take a massive hit on what's owed. So this is good for our economy?! IMO trump can suck it since out of the three he is the bigger evil for what could be 4 horrible years of crap!

We ARE bankrupt, Lee. We just haven't admitted it yet. You think we can pay off this debt? You think there's a ghost of a smokescreen of a notion of a chance that Congress will find a way to pay for all the promises they've already committed us to ... without making new impossible promises? Don't worry about going bankrupt. We are.

Just to keep the twenty trill from growing, at 5% interest, we would have to not just collect as much as we need to spend, but post a trillion dollar a year surplus over legitimate expenses. Let that sink in. One thing science teaches us is you cannot bullshit the numbers. Them are the numbers my brother. Twenty trillion at five percent is a trillion. If you can't scratch up a trillion more than all your war on drugs and war on poverty and war on political incorrectness and war on terror and war on climate change ... and all the rest of that, then you are gonna have to borrow money to pay the interest. Debt has that tendency to grow, all by itself. Nice to be a banker, innit?

We can't pay this **** off. We already robbed Peter to pay Paul. All we're doing now is making things worse. The one strongest thing Trump has going for him, to be candid about it, is he knows how and when to repudiate debt.

What else can we do? Plant money trees? Tried that. What we been doing ever since Hype and Chains set in.

Will Rogers said this: "When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging."

One of my faves of Will Rogers is this:

"There are three kinds of men:

The ones that learn by reading.
The few who learn by observation.
The rest of them have to touch an electric fence."

webmost

In all fairness, there ought to be reported of this:

“Sometimes, in the heat of debate and speaking on a multitude of issues, you don’t choose the right words or you say the wrong thing. I have done that. And believe it or not, I regret it. And I do regret it, particularly where it may have caused personal pain. Too much is at stake for us to be consumed with these issues.” —Donald Trump

Yakster

He's starting to sound like a politician.

jlmarta

Won't be long - he'll speak fluent politico.....

jgibv

yep, trump sure is a terrible guy....

let's see.....
right now TRUMP is down in louisiana visiting the people affected by the terrible flooding and helping hand out supplies....

what is crooked $hillary doing?
well $he made a facebook po$t about the flooding and put in a phone call to louisana's governor to talk about the flooding.

and how about our current president. wonder what the big O is doing about all this.....oh that's right, he's too busy golfing in martha's vineyard and can't be bothered to leave his vacation early to visit the disaster area.

jlmarta

jgibv said:

yep, trump sure is a terrible guy....

let's see.....
right now TRUMP is down in louisiana visiting the people affected by the terrible flooding and helping hand out supplies....

what is crooked $hillary doing?
well $he made a facebook po$t about the flooding and put in a phone call to louisana's governor to talk about the flooding.

and how about our current president. wonder what the big O is doing about all this.....oh that's right, he's too busy golfing in martha's vineyard and can't be bothered to leave his vacation early to visit the disaster area.

Yep. They're sure a buncha winners, aren't they? NOT!!

jlmarta

Yakster said:

He's starting to sound like a politician.

And speaking of which:

https://youtu.be/NzcE0G_OMDA

jlmarta

Here's another item that was sent to me by a friend:

God help us if this should happen. READ BELOW

This is worth thinking (and worrying) about....

A little far-fetched, but maybe????

Something out of the Twilight Zone for your consumption!!!!!!

I had to take my vehicle to the mechanic the other day for service. The Service Manager, Pete, gave me a ride home and on the way he told me his theory about the upcoming election and the next four years of U.S. government.

At first I thought it a bit far fetched, but as I listened to him it began to make sense, scary sense...

"I believe that Hillary Clinton will win the election in November," Pete began. "Then, sometime between November and January, Hillary will be indicted. The IRS is now investigating the Clinton Foundation and the whole e-mail thing isn't over yet."

"Once under indictment she won't be able to assume the Office of the President in January. Tim Kaine, who will not actually be the Vice President because neither he nor Hillary have been inaugurated, and cannot assume the Presidency."

"The Speaker of the House can't move up to it because there is already a sitting President and Vice President, so President Obama, in an Executive Order citing, "emergency situation," gives himself another four years in office is the only way possible."

Pete, believes Obama has been planning this for a while now, knowing he has enough on Hillary to indict her. Had the Attorney General indicted her based on evidence from the FBI this plan wouldn't have worked because the DNC would have quickly come up with another candidate.

If you think about it, it's not that outrageous. Many people on the left, including the President, want Obama to stay another four years. The law prohibits him from being re-elected so the only ways he can do it is by declaring martial law and suspending the election (which would be a very negative thing for the country) or to declare himself still President because the elected candidate cannot assume her duties.

The latter makes more sense and is actually more feasible, and since it's never been done before, it would set a precedent that would be difficult to challenge.

Of course, if Trump wins the election none of this is going to happen, but what if Pete is correct? Four more years of Obama and a mostly useless Republican House and Senate would give Obama the time he needs to continue destroying changing the country to fit his stated goals.

I thanked Pete for the ride home - and for messing up my day. Now I've got more things to worry about!

peter4jc

I've heard the same scenario being discussed...

For the last year and a half it seems like BO is ready to vacate the White House, so I don't think he wants to stay around. Unless of course he feels his job of ruining the country needs some finishing points.

I also think that somehow, a special election would take place and BO wouldn't get another full term.

jlmarta

I've been hearing about the martial law scenario for quite a while now, but this is the first time Ive heard this one.

Either way, BO is such a huge narcissist that I wouldn't be surprised if either possibility came to pass. And either way is d@mned scary.

Wylaff

He hasn't tried to declare himself president for life yet...

jlmarta

Wylaff said:

He hasn't tried to declare himself president for life yet...

Wouldn't that come after martial law was declared?

I mean, he's already setting up for that part. He's fired most of the best generals - those who would likely oppose him., etc....

bearb

0patience said:

I find it amusing that so many people spout off that you shouldn't vote for this person or that person, but hardly anyone is saying you SHOULD vote for this person or that person.
It's amazing that a party is almost split and has people saying that they are now leaning to an independant.

When I was younger, I remember the different parties concentrated on trying to explain to people why they SHOULD vote for their candidate.
Today, they only concentrate on why you shouldn't vote for the other guy.

When you ask them why you should vote for the person they are supporting, most folks get the deer in the headlights look.
If a person can convince me with an intelligent and reasonable pitch as to why their candidate is acceptable, I have no problem with listening, but I haven't heard anything reasonable for either one yet.

And then I read that a news reporter made comments that the Trump supporters were upset because Hawkings used big words to talk down Trump.
Which leads me to believe the reporter was a Clinton supporter and is inferring that Trump supporters are neanderthals.

I've seen some very intelligent people side with both sides and have arguments on the merits of either side, but all agree that the negatives of both are extremely overwhelming.
And then you have the idea of, do our votes really make any difference or is this all predetermined?

Personally, I'm on the fence watching the fireworks and still trying to figure out what each would bring to the table.

Isn't that what american politics has become? No one clearly articulates what they will do, how they intend to do it...rather it's just bash the other ppl and bafflegab them into submission. Ps, I do try to stay out of politics online, but this post hit the nail on the head imho.

NorthSideSmoke

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webmost

Time to bump this thread up:

webmost

Too little?
Too late?

Amos_Umwhat

Well, we're going to need a "Blame Obama" Thread.

Usaf06

Amos_Umwhat said:

Well, we're going to need a "Blame Obama" Thread.

Relax, we are still blaming Bush

Sketch6995

Neither one deserved my vote and neither one got it.
Trumps promises are already being "walked back".
to me that's the same as lying to get my vote.
He has screwed honest people out of their paychecks more than once.
Hillary is another politician, they're all dishonest.

For me, the parties pull their clown cars up ( the Republican car usually driven by the evangelists) and all the clowns get out, and I refuse to give my vote to a clown.
it's just another circus act.
And 4 years ago every single republican cried about how unfair the Electoral college operates, but this time they're all for it.
I guess your opinion depends on whether you win or lose.
As far as I'm concerned, America already was great, and we are all losers in this one.
I am not a democrat, but I am a registered anti-republican.
I hate to quote anyone, but Jon Stewart hit it on the head when speaking with Chris Christie.
if you were dying of cancer and you have no insurance .......that is Hurricane Sandy. quality of healthcare you receive should not depend on the results of your billfold biopsy. top Quality Health Care should be available to all, without bankrupting your family.
Hell, even with top-notch insurance, you can still have your head pushed under the waves.
it just seems to me that if it's not something they personally need, they call it a handout.
Back in the thirties there was a major bloodletting in Congress. there were actual fist fights and challenges of duels, all over social security, and today we can't imagine a world without it.
back in the sixties there was another bloodletting over medicare, now we can't imagine a world without it.
Yes they both need fixed, in order to be incorporated into modern times. Nothing invented in the 30s, can possibly work in 2016 without some adjustments.

we have to take care of each other.
And neither side really seems to get that.
So I wrote Bretts name in lol.
And no I'm not kidding.

Jay6

^^^too many word things thinker man

jlmarta

Oh, sure. This one's politically incorrect but.. who cares??

Bigshizza

Really? Geezus Corist